BERNARDO LOPEZ DE ELISALDE Y MARIA ANTONIA DE SERRO

HOLA

ALGUIEN TIENE INFORMACION SOBRE LOS LOPEZ ELIZALDE?

EN EL MATRIMONIO DE BERNARDO LOPES DE ELISALDE CON MARIA ANTONIA DEL SERRO
EN 1757 EN PANUCO ZACATECAS NO MENCIONAN LOS PADRES DE BERNANRDO PERO BUSQUE
EN LAS MICROFILM DE (INFORMACION MATRIMONIAL ) EN PANUCO ZACATECAS EN DONDE SE MENCIONAN A SUS PADRES QUE SON : JOSEPH LOPEZ LISALDE Y JUANA RODRIGUEZ DE SORIA

ALGUIEN SABE DE QUIENES SON HIJOS JOSEPH LOPEZ LISALDE Y JUANA RODRIGUEZ DE SORIA?

SE LOS AGRADECERIA MUCHO
SALUDOS

THOMAS ALEJO DE VILLALPANDO Y MARIA SOTELO (RUIZ DE ESPARZA)

Hola
Alguien sabe o tiene informacion sobre la familia villalpando?

en el matrimonio de thomas alejo de villalpando con maria de vargas (de leon) (heredia). matrimonio en aguascalientes en 1677 encontre los padres de ambos
donde dice que thomas alejo de villalpando es hijo legitimo de tomas de villalpando y de maria de beles.
Ademas thomas de villalpando se caso en 2 nupcias con maria sotelo ruiz de esparza
en 1690 en aguascalientes donde no mencionan los padres de thomas de villalpando.

ESTA INFORMACION DE LOS PADRES DE THOMAS DE VILLALPANDO LO ENCONTRE EN LAS MICROFILM
EN (INFORMACION MATRIMONIAL) EN AGUASCALIENTES AGUASCALIENTES.

SALUDOS

Introduction

Hello group, thank you for the opportunity to further my research.

I am Manny Dominguez and my family research interest is in Aguascalientes, Jalisco and Zacatecas.
My maternal side is from Aguascalientes and Jalisco. My paternal side is from Zacatecas.

The names in Aguascalientes are Rubalcava and Flores. The names in Jalisco are Rubalcava, Damian, and Yniguez.
The names in Zacatecas are Dominguez, Heredia and Garibaldi.

Oldest record I have is 1752 birth of Jose Antonio Flores, married to Jesus Gomez in Triana, Aguascalientes.

You view the family names at:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Dominguezm

Thank you

Indexing/Inderxacion

Hello,

Currently the NR group has a special interest group that is involved in
indexing. We are trying to finish up a project that involves the indexing of
records from Fresnillo and Villanueva, Zacatecas. Originally I thought the
project was near finished but it seems that a lot of batches need to be
redone so there is still a significant amount of work to do. After this
project is finished I’ve been told that we’ll have a Jalisco project made
available. If you are interested in joining the NR Indexing group please
email me directly at joseph@nuestrosranchos.org so I can send you some
instructions on how to get started.

Actualmente el grupo NR tiene un grupo de interés especial que está
implicado en la indexación. Estamos tratando de terminar un proyecto que
consiste en la indexación de los registros de Fresnillo y Villanueva,
Zacatecas. Originalmente pensé que el proyecto fue terminado cerca, pero
parece que muchos de los lotes sea necesario repetir lo que todavía hay una
gran cantidad de trabajo por hacer. Una vez finalizado este proyecto, me han
dicho que vamos a tener un proyecto de Jalisco disponible. Si usted está
interesado en unirse al grupo de indexación NR por favor envíeme un correo
electrónico directamente en joseph@nuestrosranchos.org así que puedo enviar
algunas instrucciones sobre cómo empezar.

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

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Dear Primos and Friends:

Wishing you a Happy 4th of July. Hope you all relaxed and refreshed, basking in the freedom which we Americans enjoy.

Twenty five years ago, my husband and I traveled on our own to the Middle East, visiting Israel and Egypt. Staying for a few nights in Cairo, we were able to observe the people. In Egypt, men in military uniform with rifles on their backs are plentiful the streets, watching.
One uniformed man, wore a gun holster on his belt, and carried a short whip. As we were about to cross the street, I noticed before us, a father and son. As they were about to pass the uniformed man, he with a grin struck the father once with the whip, as they passed,. The father just winced. I remember the look of the child's face, as he looked up to his father, wondering, confused, helpless, why?

In Tel-Aviv we slept in a hotel facing the American Consulate. From our window.. we could see the bullet holes in their walls. In the south, in Elat, (also known as Bay of Aqaba) we slept in a small hotel with a wire fence separating us from Jordan. From my bed, I could see the machine gun directed towards the hotel. Terrorist attacks and suicide bombers were increasing in number while we were there. Several times, a location where we had been the day before was bombed, or attacked. Even an ice cream poisoning took place. We traveled to the Golan Heights and soon realized how really small Israel is. You can comfortably travel from one end of Israel to the other in one day. The walls surrounding the old city of Jerusalem, enclose an area about the size of one of our larger malls. Israel's existence is a miracle.

I have several life images that I would like to share:

The most telling vision of the living conditions is the following: In Israel, agriculture, dairy, and other farms are conducted in kibbutz .
These are isolated cooperatives run by the people that live there, who are on alert 24 hours a day. In order to protect themselves from the marauding Arabs, the kibbutz are protected in various ways. In one section the farms were protected by rows of rolled barbwire fences. At one site, I think I counted at least 6 rows of rolled barbwire fencing.

In Israel most young people serve in the military, girls and boys. They wear their rifles on their backs. Several times, standing in line to get a falafal, I backed into a hard rifle carried by a young soldier.
Israel are surviving by accepting that living in Israel requires constant diligence.

The most uplifting image that I recall is of a young girl in uniform, rifle on her back, sitting cross legged on the top of some stairs, on duty before a government building, happily knitting.

God Bless America and God Bless Israel . . . . Mimi

UNITED STATES
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Translation and interpretation by Tomas Saenz

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CULTURE
El Charro by Sergio Hernandez
Hispanics Against Ltino Term
Lucero Tena, Flamenco Dancer
Lydia Mendoza, Singer
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file updated on Rootsweb.com

I just updated my files on Rootsweb.com They are primarily Zacatecas and Jalisco but some of the ancestors came from Michoacán so those records are there also. My file is called Mexico. My root person is my Father Chet Castanon and Mother Dolores Gutierrez. The Castanon's were primarily in district of Jerez, Zac and the Gutierrez line is from Chilchota Michoacán and went into Zapotlan el Grande/Ciudad Gusman and then into Tamazula, Jalisco.

Once into my files you can go to the index to see if there is a surname you are looking for in those areas.
Linda Castanon-Long
B.C.

Family Finder test now $99

FamilyTreeDNA.com has lowered the price for the Family Finder test to $99.
Since there are so many of us that have at least one ancestor in common
this can be an additional tool in our research by helping each other out
with DNA matches and triangulation.

Here is a good site with an explanation of triangulation.

http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/

You will also get to see what percentage of European, Amerindian, Asian,
Middle Eastern and African ancestry you have.

Previously the price was so high it was hard to justify spending so much on
the test. Now with the current price it might be worth it to many of you.
Here is a link where it can be ordered.

http://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx

You can also order it and join the Los Altos de Jalisco DNA project at the
following site -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=losaltosdejalisco

The prices have also been reduced for some of the Y-DNA tests.

Saludos,
Armando

Creating Content...Pictures

Hello,

I was just curious as to the purpose of uploading/sharing family pictures/images. Is this something that could additionally help in the genealogy research or just a means of archiving photos digitally here in the Nuestros Ranchos Forums?

(I have many old family photos as far back as the turn of the 19th century & I am debating whether ot not to go through the trouble of uploading them.)

Thanks for your help in advance
MAZO

Hola,

Tenía curiosidad acerca de compartir fotos/imágenes de la familia. ¿Es esto algo que además podría ayudar en la investigación de la genealogía o simplemente un medio de archivar las fotos digitales aquí en los Nuestros Ranchos foros?

(Tengo muchas fotos familiares antiguas se remontan a finales del siglo 19 y estoy pensando si compartirlos aqui es necesario)

Gracias por su ayuda de antemano
MAZO

: Family Finder test now $99

Armando,

Very interesting topic. I have never done a DNA Test either. Can we just
do the Family Finder test? Will that be suffice?

The Family Finder+Y-DNA37 price is pretty steep even with the discount.

Thanks,
Victor

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FamilyTreeDNA.com has lowered the price for the Family Finder test to $99.
Since there are so many of us that have at least one ancestor in common
this can be an additional tool in our research by helping each other out
with DNA matches and triangulation.

Here is a good site with an explanation of triangulation.

http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/

You will also get to see what percentage of European, Amerindian, Asian,
Middle Eastern and African ancestry you have.

Previously the price was so high it was hard to justify spending so much on
the test. Now with the current price it might be worth it to many of you.
Here is a link where it can be ordered.

http://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx

You can also order it and join the Los Altos de Jalisco DNA project at the
following site -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=losaltosdejalisco

The prices have also been reduced for some of the Y-DNA tests.

Saludos,
Armando

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alice Blake
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Hello Armando,
?
Do you or?anyone?else have any idea how many or what?percentage of Nuestros
Ranchos members?have had any of?their
DNA tested??? It?might help me decide whether or not to proceed with the
autosomal test,?as?ones?chances of finding?a?match is?limited to?their data
base.???
Thanks so much,? Alice?

________________________________
From: Armando
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Finder test now $99

FamilyTreeDNA.com has lowered the price for the Family Finder test to $99.
Since there are so many of us that have at least one ancestor in common
this can be an additional tool in our research by helping each other out
with DNA matches and triangulation.

Here is a good site with an explanation of triangulation.

http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/

You will also get to see what percentage of European, Amerindian, Asian,
Middle Eastern and? African ancestry you have.

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Announce Digest, Vol 85, Issue 3

Hello, I am very interested in the DNA test, I just wonder what the difference in FamilyTree and Ancestry tests are.  Ancestry is now $99.00 as well.  My family connections are Femat, Montanez, Vivar de Romo and Pedro Perez and Justa Gonzalez from Rincon Grande, Jalisco.  I would love to connect with my family.  This is my first note, I hope I am doing this correctly

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FamilyTreeDNA.com has lowered the price for the Family Finder test to $99.
Since there are so many of us that have at least one ancestor in common
this can be an additional tool in our research by helping each other out
with DNA matches and triangulation.

Here is a good site with an explanation of triangulation.

http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/

You will also get to see what percentage of European, Amerindian, Asian,
Middle Eastern and  African ancestry you have.

Previously the price was so high it was hard to justify spending so much on
the test. Now with the current price it might be worth it to many of you.
Here is a link where it can be ordered.

http://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx

You can also order it and join the Los Altos de Jalisco DNA project at the
following site -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=losaltosdejalisco

The prices have also been reduced for some of the Y-DNA tests.

Saludos,
Armando

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alice Blake
To: "announce@nuestrosranchos.org"
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Hello Armando,
?
Do you or?anyone?else have any idea how many or what?percentage of Nuestros Ranchos members?have had any of?their
DNA tested??? It?might help me decide whether or not to proceed with the autosomal test,?as?ones?chances of finding?a?match is?limited to?their data base.???
Thanks so much,? Alice?
 

________________________________
 From: Armando
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Finder test now $99
  

FamilyTreeDNA.com has lowered the price for the Family Finder test to $99.
Since there are so many of us that have at least one ancestor in common
this can be an additional tool in our research by helping each other out
with DNA matches and triangulation.

Here is a good site with an explanation of triangulation.

Los primeros Orozco en Jalisco y pintores

Hola
Quisiera saber si alguien tiene datos de los primeros Orozco que llegaron a Jalisco, una leyenda familiar cuenta que llegaron dos hermanos Orozco a los altos de Jalisco provenientes del país vasco y que de ahí descienden todas las familias actuales, alguien tiene datos al respecto?
Una característica en mi rama familiar y que veo en otros Orozco es que hay varios pintores y/o artistas, hay varios Orozco famosos en el área de las artes plásticas como José Clemente Orozco o el artista conceptual contemporáneo Gabriel Orozco.
Hay algún Orozco en este grupo que comparta en su familia el "gen" artístico?
Saludos
Ricardo Espinosa Orozco

Cordona, Rosita Maria

This may be the wrong place to ask this and if so, I apologize. I have a problem and since I neither read nor write Spanish, I am in a quandry.

Rosita Maria Cordona was supposedly born ca Bet. 11 Oct 1909 - 1912 Spanish Honduras,(Bonnacca, Honduras). When she was about 9-10, supposedly her father (no name) died while working on Suez Canal, and she was sent to America with a Fermina Kirkconnell family to get an education. However, after finding the person I believe to be Rosita arriving Apr 4 1920 with that family on Ship: Emma Belliveau (ship sailed March 18 1920 from Bonacco, Honduras), through Cuba arriving in Tampa, FL and again July 11 1925 as Rorsita (last name illegible on original) I have no link of Rosita to the Kirkconnell family in US. Do find Rosita in 1930 maid, living 7709 Central Ave., Tampa, FL; in 1934 as cook 212 East Ross Avenue, Do, Tampa, FL; April 1935 living with the Eatons 80 Vandeventer Place, St Louis, St Louis City, Missouri; April 1940 as a cook living with the Eatons at 80 Vandeventer Place, St Louis, St Louis City, Missouri; married 26 Dec 1940 Hot Springs, Garland, Arkansas to R
oman Benedict Pike. By 1945, she, Benedict and daugher Ann are back in Temple Terrace, Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL She died 21 Nov 2004 in Glynn Co., GA. and is buried St Anthony of Padua Cemetery, Palm Ave San Antonio, FL.

Rosita did have a son Albert Allen Cardona born 12 Dec 1928 in Tampa, FL. Her daughter has no other info on her than that, and would like to know the true story of Rosita's birth year, parents, etc.

Carrol Hurley Ullrich
419 Colley Lane
St. Simons Island, GA 31522

Mi Investigacion. Enrique Nungaray

I have ran into many of Damasia Pena Guitron lineage...you may reach me Via email...acesan78@gmail.com.  

Lizzy

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Note que me piden una rese?a de mi inter?s en este servicio y menciono la investigaci?n que he hecho: se que hay muchas personas con mi apellido en la regi?n de los altos de Jalisco, pero en lo que yo he podido investigar, solo he encontrado esto:

No se si hay alg?n formato especializado para vaciar esta informaci?n. Si existe, les pido me la env?en.

Mi bisabuelo se llamo: VICENTE NUNGARAY y aparentemente naci? en Barcelona, Espa?a o fue tra?do muy peque?o por sus padres, de quienes ignoro los nombres, a Talpa de Allende, Jalisco. Falleci?  el 31 de Enero de 1926, en Guadalajara, Jal. Contrajo matrimonio en la parroquia de Talpa de Allende con DAMASA PE?A GUITRON el d?a 3 de Agosto de 1874. De ella no tengo ning?n otro dato.

Tuvieron varios hijos:

JOSE MANUEL NUNGARAY PE?A, nacido el 28 de Mayo de 1875, en Talpa de Allende. No tengo ning?n otro dato.

MANUEL FELIPE NUNGARAY PE?A, mi abuelo, nacido en Talpa de Allende en 1877. Se caso en Guadalajara con AMELIA RODRIGUEZ HERNANDEZ, el 25 de Septiembre de 1906 y falleci? en Guadalajara, el 30 de Julio de 1919. Tuvo por hijos a Manuel, Vicente, Guadalupe, Felipe ( mi padre) y Maria de los Angeles (fallecida recientemente).

MARIA NUNGARAY PE?A, nacida en Talpa de Allende, el 29 de Enero de 1879. No tengo mas datos de ella.

Tengo muchos datos e informaci?n de los otros hijos de mi abuelo. Mi inter?s es conocer m?s datos e informaci?n sobre mis ancestros, de las dos lineas y les agradecer? toda su ayuda.

Muchas gracias

Enrique Nungaray LUTCF
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Mi investigacion

Note que me piden una reseña de mi interés en este servicio y menciono la investigación que he hecho: se que hay muchas personas con mi apellido en la región de los altos de Jalisco, pero en lo que yo he podido investigar, solo he encontrado esto:

No se si hay algún formato especializado para vaciar esta información. Si existe, les pido me la envíen.

Mi bisabuelo se llamo: VICENTE NUNGARAY y aparentemente nació en Barcelona, España o fue traído muy pequeño por sus padres, de quienes ignoro los nombres, a Talpa de Allende, Jalisco. Falleció el 31 de Enero de 1926, en Guadalajara, Jal. Contrajo matrimonio en la parroquia de Talpa de Allende con DAMASA PEÑA GUITRON el día 3 de Agosto de 1874. De ella no tengo ningún otro dato.

Tuvieron varios hijos:

JOSE MANUEL NUNGARAY PEÑA, nacido el 28 de Mayo de 1875, en Talpa de Allende. No tengo ningún otro dato.

MANUEL FELIPE NUNGARAY PEÑA, mi abuelo, nacido en Talpa de Allende en 1877. Se caso en Guadalajara con AMELIA RODRIGUEZ HERNANDEZ, el 25 de Septiembre de 1906 y falleció en Guadalajara, el 30 de Julio de 1919. Tuvo por hijos a Manuel, Vicente, Guadalupe, Felipe ( mi padre) y Maria de los Angeles (fallecida recientemente).

MARIA NUNGARAY PEÑA, nacida en Talpa de Allende, el 29 de Enero de 1879. No tengo mas datos de ella.

Tengo muchos datos e información de los otros hijos de mi abuelo. Mi interés es conocer más datos e información sobre mis ancestros, de las dos lineas y les agradeceré toda su ayuda.

Muchas gracias

Enrique Nungaray LUTCF
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Espinoza

It is one of my family names on my paternal grandmother's father's
side. I just typed the name into Google and up pops the meaning that
it pertains to thorns. It made me think of the crown on Jesus' brow
as He hung on the cross for us.

francisco sotelo y clara de jaen

hola
alguien ha leido el testamento de francisco sotelo esposo de clara de jaen?
mencionan a los padres de francisco sotelo y los de clara jaen?

en la defuncion de francisco sotelo fallecio el 8 octubre 1669 en aguascalientes
mencionan a su esposa clara de jaen a quien deja viuda y dejo testamento y deja como
albacea a gdo anto sotelo.
clara de xaen fallecio el 3 de marzo 1683 en aguascalientes viuda de francisco sotelo.
francisco sotelo y clara de xaen padres de elena sotelo casada con ignacio ruiz de eesparza el 5 agosto 1651 en aguascalientes ignacio hijo de martin ruiz de esparza y de maria lopez lisaldi.
elena sotelo fallecio en 24 enero 1673 aguascalientes.

martin ruiz de esparza fallecio el 25 octubre 1674 aguascalientes.
maria lopez lisaldi fallecio el 4 marzo 1678 aguascalientes.

alguien sabe quienes son los padres de maria lopez lisaldi?

saludos

Francisco de Santiago and Ynes de Artiaga y Alvarado

Francisco de Santiago and Ynes de Artiaga y Alvarado had three known children baptized at San Antonio de Padua, Tlajomulco de Zuniga, Jalisco:
-Miguel, bapt. 29 May 1633
-Baltasar, bapt 29 Jan 1640
-Juan, bapt. 18 Aug 1642

These baptisms are listed in the recently released images for Tlajomulco de Zuniga on Family Search.

No marriage record has been found for Francisco and Ynes.

Juan de Santiago, also known as Juan de Santiago y Escobar, moved to Aguaslcalientes, married three times (Antonia Ruis de Esparza, Getrudis de Esparza y Rangel, and Maria Getrudis de Nabarro [or de Naba]), and had many children, as well as very many descendants in Aguascalientes and Calvillo.

Proof that this Juan de Santiago y Escobar is the son of Francisco and Ynes comes from the document describing Antonia Ruis de Esparza's dowry which names his parents, Francisco and Ynes.

I have been unable to find any further trace of Miguel and Baltasar. I've searched for them with surnames Santiago and Escobar.

Does anyone have information on Miguel or Baltasar, and perhaps descendants? Is there any information on Francisco and Ynes?

George Fulton
Pleasanton

Other 15 Century Spanish Families

Does anyone have any more info on the genealogy of these people?
Any info would be appreciated. I would also like to thank this group for all the help
and support we all have for each other.

Juan Lopez de Elizalde (ca. 1560)
Juan Becerra y Hurtado de Mendoza
Anna Sanchez de Mendoza
Martin Navarro de Gabay
Maria Diez de Enguino
Diego ARias de Sotelo (was he a conqistador or his father?)

Ref: Family Search

To the group

I have been unable to find records with Family Search. I put in names and
all I was getting was 'no record'. I realized it was impossible to have
so many 'no record'. I put the name of a person I knew was in the records
and again got a 'no record'.

I called Family Search and after quite a long time the problem was
resolved.

Joseph thinks I should share this.

I was working with Mexican records. I typed mexico. There was a
drop...featuring countries....it had Mexico with a capital M.. It is now case
sensitive! And, to think I have spent hours looking for records and unable to
find!!!

Mickey