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Hola Mis Amigos -
My name is Luis Lozano from Robstown, Texas - I have been a member for
less than a month.  My lineage has led me to a brick wall and I am wondering
if anyone else is doing research on the Lozano family.  I am looking for information
relating to Cristobal Lozano and Beatriz Delgado who married in Aguascalientes
on Feb 16, 1706.  Also their son Manuel Antonio who married 1st Gertrudis
Carrion - it's unclear whether they married in Aguascalientes or Vallecillo, Nuevo
Leon where he married Antonia Margarita Garcia.  I appreciate your help.
Luis

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Dear Primos and friends:

As always a full issue with many thoughtful essays, historical and genealogical tidbits.
Please do read the important announcement located directly under the table of contents concerning anticipated Somos Primos changes for 2014.
Briefly, with so many new resources on online for family history researchers, I want to move in the direction of encouraging readers to write and share their family histories online with Somos Primos readers.

In this issue, Elida Vela Vombaur, Ben Romero and I each wrote about incidences of the healing practices of our grandmothers. Please feel invited to send your stories and memories along on this topic, or on anything else for the Cuentos column.
Have a wonderful Cincdo de Mayo. Be sure and read Dr. Lily Rivera's essay on why Mexican Americans celebrate the Cinco de Mayo.
God bless . . . . . . Mimi

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Hello,

I was wondering what books, if any (English or Spanish) do the seasoned veterans of the genealogy pursuit recommend as "must reads" for those wanting to expand knowledge on the history of Mexico, genealogy research, or other relevant/vital topics. I have enjoyed/appreciated the help of so many of you over the months and years and would appreciate any direction to further expand my historical genealogical education.

Thanks in advance,
Monica

Hola,

Qusiera saber cuales libros, en sus opiniones (Inglés o Español) recomiendan como "Debe Lee" para aquellos que quieran ampliar conocimientos sobre la historia de México, la investigación genealógica, u otros temas relevantes/vital. He disfrutado/agradeció la ayuda de muchos de ustedes veteranos de la busqueda genealogíca, en estos meses y años. Agradecería cualquier dirección para seguir ampliando mi formación genealógica histórica.

Gracias de antemano,
Monica

to Roy
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation help please....re: Victoriana
> Martinez
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> My 4th great grandparents' marriage record:
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> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18724-61739-21?cc=1874591&wc…
>
> Juaquin Choperena y Victoriana Martinez were married on 16Sept1801.
> I believe Juaquin was born in Navarra, Spain to Pedro Jose Choperena y Maria Bautista Yndart about 1771.
>
> However, I'm having trouble figuring out the birthplace and parents of Victoriana.
> Was she born in Spain or Juanacati? Was her father a 16-year old neighbor?
>
> I'd appreciate any help.
> Thanks,
> Roy
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> Victoriana is 32, she was born in "Mesa del Fraile" and she 's living in Juanacati about 16 years ( vecina), she was the widow of Pedro Yanos Valdez, who's corps has been buried in this parroquia, 5 months ago. they dont mention her parents as she's a widow Julieta
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My paternal great grandmother was Maria Ysabel Caballero, baptised 16Dec1860 in Totatiche, Jalisco. Daughter of Tranquilino Caballero y Maria Juliana de la Trinidad Avila

source:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18685-15759-46?cc=1874591&wc…

I have now found another child of Tranquilino Caballero y Trinidad D'abila, baptised on 01Mar1864 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Ramon, Zacatecas.

source:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15530-33887-83?cc=1804458&wc…

This record indicates Ysabel was a male child. Was this name actually used for both sexes? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Saludos,
Roy

Hello Group,
In the past, I've summitted concern and read similar concerns from other members of a general drop in posts and receiving responses to member posts never having received the initial request to the group. 
From time to time I've seen/received posts from the following sites:
research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Could these additional sites explain the drop in posts?  I'd appreciate it if someone would please explain how they are different from the general, research, and announcement nuestros ranchos sites?  I'm not sure how long they've been in existence and who is privy to their use.  I'd be dismayed if I've been missing any additional research resources available to my group membership.  Thanks so much, Alice
 

• nameJosef Maria Coronado
• genderMale
• burial date02 Oct 1816
• burial placeGuadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
• death date
• death place
• age60
• birth date1756
• birthplace
• occupation
• raceNative American
• marital statusMarried
• spouse's nameMaria Rosalia Lopez
• father's name
• father's birthplace
• mother's name
• mother's birthplace
• indexing project (batch) numberB03682-4
• system originMexico-EASy
• gs film number1108100
• reference idLibro 1 Pag 57

I am trying to figure out a relationship: the above-named couple certainly married, as proved by the baptismal records of three of their children (Beatríz, 1712, Teocaltiche; Sebastián, 1717, San Juan de los Lagos; and Monica Gertrudis, 1729, Jalostotitlán—and, yes, they seemed to move around a bit) and the marriages of two others (Ana Juliana m. Juan Joseph Pantaleon de Aceves in 1745 in Jalos; and María Margarita m. Xptovál Joseph Gomes Cornejo in 1741, also in Jalos). In each of these records—whether baptisms or marriages—the names of the parents are explicitly stated.

There is also a marriage record dated 14 January 1686 in Teocaltiche of Nicolás Romo de Vibar and Mariana de Villalobos. The parents of Nicolás are given as Diego Romo de Vibar and Luisa de los Anjeles, who I presume is María Luisa de los Ángeles Villalobos Castillo de Sandi; and the names of the parents of Mariana are given as Nicolás de Villalobos (ya defunto) and Teresa Carrillo.

My questions, then, are these: (1) how are the two women, both named Mariana de Villalobos, related, if at all; and (2) where does Diego Romo de Vibar fit into that family—in other words, are Diego and Nicolás related? I might be tempted to think that the two Marianas are the same person, except that a marriage in 1686 would mean that she would have had to have given birth to a child in 1729 in the 43rd year following her first marriage—an unlikely occurrence.

The line I am following is that of Diego and Mariana, named in the subject line. Any documented light that can be shed on these questions will be gratefully appreciated.

Sinceremente,
Lawrence Bouett

cónyuge: Maria López
hijo: José Abrahám Coronado
Nombre José Abrahám Coronado
Sexo Male
Fecha de bautismo 29 Mar 1895
Lugar de bautismo Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Fecha de nacimiento
Lugar de nacimiento
Fecha de la defunción
Nota sobre el nombre
Raza
Nombre del padre Pablo Coronado
Lugar de nacimiento del padre
Edad del padre
Nombre de la madre Maria López
Lugar de nacimiento de la madre
Edad de la madre
Nombre del abuelo paterno
Nombre de la abuela paterna
Nombre del abuelo materno
Nombre de la abuela materna
Número de lote o batch I06479-8
Sistema de origen Mexico-EASy
Número de microfilm de FamilySearch 38343
Identificador de referencia v 83 p 327
AGRADECERÉ TODA LA INFORMACION QUE SE ME OTORGUE.

Here is a picture of Nuevo Espana (Mexico) in the year 1650. What is helpful is the names of the different sections such as:

"Reino De La Nuevo Galicia" "Reino De La Nuevo Viscaya"
"Nuevo Reino De Leon" "Reino De La Nuevo Espana"

This is interesting as when I had been browsing through the baptism records and saw those names mentioned above and now know what it refers to:

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/2060/nuevoespanamexico1650.jpg

Source:

http://proyectohistoria8.blogspot.com/2012_11_01_archive.html

Also came across this drawing of what Teuchitlan, Jalisco may have looked like during Pre-Colombian times. Interesting:

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/79/jaliscod.jpg

The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society will be hosting its 4th Annual
Conference September 2013 at the California State Archives. There is a
flyer with all the details at the following link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21475

The Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society will be hosting its 4th Annual
Conference September 2013 at the California State Archives. There is a
flyer with all the details at the following link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21475

Since there were so many discoveries on another Castañeda forum, I thought I'd try again.

I'm trying to get more info, anything, on Castañedas from Atolinga, Zac.

Here's what I have:

Alexandro Castañeda b. abt 1760
wife: Maria Calendaria Ramirez b. abt 1760

son: José Antonio Castañeda b. abt 1783 (I have marriage cert)
wife: María Eugenia de Aro b. abt 1783

son: Julio de Jesús b. 1802
wife: María Mónica de Refugio Gonzales b. 1812

son: Juan Castañeda b. abt 1830 (3rd great-grandfather)
wife: Jesús Segobia b. abt 1830

Thanks!
Laura Gonzalez

Hello,
I couldn't locate the marriage records for Calvillo that took place from October to mid-November. It seems that pages 46 & 47, which correspond to these dates, are missing in the marriage book. The pages go from 45 to 48, and the Record Number from 192 to 200:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11613-122856-98?cc=1502404…

Has anyone come across these pages? If so please let me know as I'm looking for the wedding of Francisco Narciso Huerta & Remigia Gonzalez. Their marriage investigation was completed on 11 Oct 1777.

Thanks, Arturo

Is there any other place to look up records? we are directed to familysearch, and it use to be a great site I had been able to get info on that website but they have recently "updated" their system and now all you get is RECORD NOT FOUND I put in correct bith dates parents ect. it does not matter you get that message every time and I know its not just me, some how I accidentally stumbbled on their comment section. I went thru about 80 negative comments and only 2 positive ones.

Does anyone know where I'd be able to find old maps (1700s-1800s) of Jalisco and its little towns and villages?

Hi everyone, my name is Ruben Rojas,I am new to this site and this is my first post.I did research on this and came to a dead end. Does anyone know what Municipality Atemanica belonged to back in 1707. Today, I know it is part of Tequila, but what Church or Municipality did people go to back then if born in Atemanica. I am doing research on my 5th GreatGrand Father, Phelipe de Santiago Delgado. He was born around 1707. He married Ma Magdalena Castaneda in 1732 in Tlaltenango,Zac. His second marriage was to Ma Eugenia Carrillo in 1748 in Colotlan, Jal. His 3rd and final marriage was to my 5th GreatGrand Mother Juana Ynez Catano in 1757 in Totatiche, Jal. He died in Tlaltenango on Sept 18 1786. Three of the Catholic Church records I have say he originated from Atemanica. I researched familysearch.com in both Tequila and Magdalena Municipalities with no luck. I can't seem to find anyone else from Atemanica. Also, on familysearch.com Tequila has an error and is missing years 1698 to 1716 ( which is what I need). They have Bautisos 1684-1810, but its actually 1784-1810. I dont know where else to look. Any suggestions.
Thank You

Hello,
This is in response to Enrique (Message 6).
I was just working on our Brambila line today and found your information very informative. Especially about the name being italian--I had assumed they were Basque: Because of the Arriaga.

My research results is a little different from yours...but I'm new at this; but I've tried to cross-reference everything with at least 2 sources (baptism and marriage).

I have Augustin Brambila (b. 7 Sept., 1680 in Tecolotlan) married to Antonia Gonzales. I got this from the Marriages of their sons, Diego Brambila and Jose Juaquin; and Joaquin's baptism (1719).
I believe I found the parents: Joseph Brambila (Bap. 4 Aug. 1664 in San Miguel, Cocula) and his wife's name listed on Augustin's Baptism is Antonia Ybarra (but I haven't confirmed it with a marriage.

I believe I also found Joseph's parents (baptism record of Joseph); They are listed also as Joseph Brambila de Arriaga and his wife: Catalina Lomelin.
I have found 4 children Spelled all different ways because it seems the priests spelled phonetically and maybe people didn't always speak clearly.
The other children besides Joseph are Manuel (13 Jun 1663; Teocuitatlan de Corona, Jal.); Antonio (27 july, 1659;Teocuitatlan de Corona, Jal.); and Lorensa (11 Sept., 1661; Teocuitatlan de Corona, Jal.).

It seems the Brambila's have spread themselves throughout Jalisco---there are lots in Santa Rosalia and Autlan. My particular line descends from Juaquin through his son Andres Maria, and then Gregorio, then Jose Ygnacio Regino.

Please let me know if the information I have is wrong--as I said, I'm new at this; but it is definitely fun.

Thank you

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> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: enrique_agraz94@hotmail.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia Brambila y Arriaga (Brambila y
> Arriaga Family)
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> Hola:
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> Primero que nada, un saludo para todos ustedes ya que soy nuevo en este grupo y espero poder colaborar en conjunto con ustedes a partir de este momento.
>
> Uno de los temas que ha sido de mi particular int?res ha sido el origen de la familia Brambila, asentada en su mayor?a en el estado de Jalisco.
> El apellido es italiano, lleg? a la Nueva Espa?a con el conquistador italino Juan Antonio Brambilla, despu?s se castellaniz? el apellido pasando a escribirse con una sola "l". Juan Antonio Brambilla, cas? con la hija del conquistador Antonio de Arriaga y su descendencia pas? a denominarse "Brambila y Arriaga".
>
> Despu?s de investigar el origen de esta familia en Tecolotl?n, trat? de enlazar a este Juan Antonio Brambilla con el primer Brambila que residi? en Tecolotl?n, este fue Don Agust?n de la Brambila y Arriaga, que estaba casado con Do?a Antonia Isabel de Ibarra, haya por mediados de 1600's, estos tuvieron dos hijos Agust?n y Alejandro de la Brambila y Arriaga, de los cuales desciende mi familia y la mayor?a de los Brambila de Jalisco.
>
> Quisiera saber si alguien m?s que ha investigado al respecto a encontrado el lazo entre las personas ya mencionadas.
>
> De antemano, muchas gracias.
>
> Hello:
>
> First of all, greetings to all of you because I'm new in this group and I hope to work together with you from now.
>
> One topic that has been of my particular interest has been the origin of the Brambila family, settled mostly in the state of Jalisco.
> The surname is Italian, it came to New Spain with the italian conqueror Juan Antonio Brambilla, it changed then to be written just with one "l". Juan Antonio Brambilla, married the daughter of the conqueror Antonio de Arriaga and his descendants became to be known as "Brambila y Arriaga. "
>
> After researching the origin of this family in Tecolotl?n, I tried to link this Juan Antonio Brambila Brambilla with the first Brambila that lived at Tecolotl?n, this was Don Agustin de la Brambila y Arriaga, who was married to Do?a Antonia Isabel de Ibarra, that was by mid-1600's, they had two children August?n and Alejandro de la Brambila y Arriaga, of which my family descends and most of the Brambila in Jalisco.
>
> I wonder if anyone else has researched this to find the link between the people I have already mentioned.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
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Hola a todos, buenos dias.

Tengo el agrado de comunicarles que finalmente pude encontrar la informacion matrimonial que buscaba de mi antepasado JOSEPH (ELEUTEIO) VALDIVIA con FRANCISCA ROSALIA NAVARO. Habiendo encontrado este documento pude finalmente saber quienes fueron sus padres (Ramon Baldibia/Ma Margarita Maldonado (De Ornelas) + PEDRO NAVARRO/PETRONILA (Ptrona/Petra)SOLIS. Incluso encontre al parecer el matrimonio de estas parejas en La Barca y en Ayo el Chico, pero nuevamente el mismo problema (no mencionan a los padres), por tal razon tengo que volver a buscar la INF MATRIMONIAL correspondiente...... Lamentablemene Ayo el Chico no cuenta con informaciones que abarquen el año de 1729 ya que comienzan mas tarde.

Alguien puede orientarme en donde puedo localizar las Informaciones de Ayo el Chico para el año 1729? A que jurisdiccion pertenecia en aquel ayer? Los poblados mas cercanos que pudieran ser son: Atotonilco el Alto, Degollado, La Barca y Ocotlan. Son los poblados mas importantes que le circundan... En cual?

Por otro lado, de pura casualidad alguno de ustdes tiene a las parejas que acabo de localizar en sus investigaciones:

RAMON VALDIVIA (Baldibia) + MA. MARGARIATA MALDONADO (De Ornelas). Abt 1710/20

PEDRO NAVARRO + PETRONILA (Petrona/Petra)SOLIS abt 1720

Tambien en las Informaciones de La Barca, localize una hermana de Joseph Eleuterio Valdivia, la cual se llama JUANA BALDIBIA (hija de Ramon Baldibia y Margarita Maldonado) y su posible bautismo el 12 Oct 1730 en Sahuayo, Michoacan. Alguen la tiene en sus archivos?

Tambien quiero agradecer a todas las personas que estuvieron en contacto conmigo y que trataron de ayudarme a localizar a mis antepasados Valdivia/ Navarro desde el inicio. Les agradezco mucho el granito de arena y espero seguir contando con su guia y con su apoyo ya que esta ardua tarea CONTNUA....

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Me encantaria saber de ustedes, sus comentarios, sus consejos y/o aportaciones.

Saudos

Alessandro.

Hi there everyone,

I just found this document about my ancestor Francisco De Villalobos, and i really want to know what that document says but I have not reach to the lvl of reading this type so if anyone can please help me.

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/ImageServlet?accion=41&txt_…

Ive started to look for the original documents for more details about my ancestors and occasionally can't seem to original referencing document.

Example: for the record for "Antto. Blas Barbossa Lyez" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NBMD-54V (which I understand to be Antonio Blas Barbosa Lopez); I can't find the (18 Sep 1712) baptism record under the images:
+ Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic...Church Records, 1590-1979,
+ Cocula, San Miguel
+ Baptisms 1711-1738
+ Page 54 of 738 seems to be from 21 August 1712 to 18 Sep 1712, and Page 55 starts with 18 Sep 1712, but I dont see the referencing record.

Am I looking at this wrong?

I can read all but the name of the town in this document; can someone fill in the missing word? "... Domingo Gerrero [Guerrero] español originario, y vesino de la siudad de __?__ del Reino de la Nueva España ...".

I should be most grateful. I'm not going to prejudice anyone by posting my guess as to what this name might be.

Best wishes,
Lawrence Bouett
Orinda, CA

I have been looking for information related to the loeras of Ojocaliente in Calvillo. The oldests records available for loeras are located in Mecatabasco Zacatecas and all are baptisms. Many of the sons and daughters of Ricardo Loera and Barbara Gertrudis Lopez de Nava were baptized in mecatabasco and I was hoping that I could find the records for 1745 -1800 of Informacion Matrimonial but there aren't any available. I was also surprised to find mecatabasco records in the Calvillo Section.

Mexico, Aguascalientes, C...Church Records, 1620-1962 - Calvillo - Señor San José - Información matrimonial - 1748-1815

Does anybody know what happened to the missing Iformacion Matrimonial because that's where the marriage record of the loeras That I'm looking for could be.

you see, there are some couple's i found who got married in 1807 from the towns or colotlan, and huejucar who i think might be related to each other. the only way to prrove it for sure is to find a marriage dispensation for these couples. one couple i'm looking for in particular is placido flores and ana maria rivera.