Hi Evie:

Did you check matrimonios and marriage informacion records?  Marriage
informacion should give detailed information.  Hang in there, I'm
in the same boat it gets hard when you are in the mid 1700's.  I 
have also viewed baptism records when they give no last names for the child
and it's frustrating.

Carol

evievillegas wrote:

 I am desperately in need of advice. 
Juan Florencio Villegas was

born in Ameca, JAL and married to Pascuala Flores in 1759 in

Colotlan, JAL. He died there in 1801.  On the marriage document

his parents are listed as Bartolome de Villegas and Nicolasa

Rodrigues.  His death certificate lists only his wife's name
and

no birthplace.  The only Juan birth possibility I could find
in

Ameca  was a Juan Rodrigues born in Ameca to a Bartolome

with no last name, but the time period was too early (1696) and

the mother's first name is not the same.  I have the birth
records

of 4 possible brothers and sisters who were born in Tlaltenango

De Sanchez Roman, ZAC.  Their

I am desperately in need of advice.  Juan Florencio Villegas was 
born in Ameca, JAL and married to Pascuala Flores in 1759 in 
Colotlan, JAL. He died there in 1801.  On the marriage document 
his parents are listed as Bartolome de Villegas and Nicolasa 
Rodrigues.  His death certificate lists only his wife's name and 
no birthplace.  The only Juan birth possibility I could find in 
Ameca  was a Juan Rodrigues born in Ameca to a Bartolome 
with no last name, but the time period was too early (1696) and 
the mother's first name is not the same.  I have the birth records 
of 4 possible brothers and sisters who were born in Tlaltenango 
De Sanchez Roman, ZAC.  Their births occurred between 1729 
and 1734.  Several of them married in Colotlan near the time of 
Juan's marriage.  However, the parents listed for these 
possibilities are Bartolome Villegas and either Maria Nicolasa, 
Juana Nicolasa or Nicolasa de la Cruz and not Nicolasa 
Rodrigues.  Still hoping these are all members of Juan

How many of you are using WorldCat to find books that you might want to
do an interlibrary loan on?

did I hear one or two of you say, "What's WorldCat?"

WorldCat is a World Catalog. . .its is a catalog for the libraries of
the World.

I've been amazed at what can be found using WorldCat.

If you are a member of your local public or University library ask them
about access to WorldCat at home. On my local library's system they give
you a special password and you have access to a "bunch" of databases
including WorldCat.

Anyway any serious researcher needs to start using WorldCat and ordering
books from around the World*** (or at least around the country).

***If you find a book that is owned by another country, like lets say,
uh, Mexico, you will have a much better chance of getting it on Inter
Library Loan if you make the request through your most prestigious local
University. There is something about loaning books to other Educational
institutions that opens doors

Hi Maria,

Yes, I will be happy to look for Miguel Jose Castaneda for you. I also have "Luna" in my line and will be looking for Gertrudis de Luna.

Saludos, Helyn

Hi Helyn,

In your intro you said that you had just checked out a film for

Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman from the late 1700's.  It just so

happens that I am interested in one record that might be in that

film.  I am interested in Miguel Jose Castañeda, son of Pedro

Castañeda and Gertrudis de Luna.  His christening date is 9 Oct

1777.  Please let me know if you can help.

Maria

Hi Helyn,
In your intro you said that you had just checked out a film for 
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman from the late 1700's.  It just so 
happens that I am interested in one record that might be in that 
film.  I am interested in Miguel Jose Castañeda, son of Pedro 
Castañeda and Gertrudis de Luna.  His christening date is 9 Oct 
1777.  Please let me know if you can help.
Maria

two quick things:

1) I'm wanting to keep the genealogies in the non-public "Files"
section. I'm pretty sure I've moved everyones Genealogy submission from
their individual email to the files section. It is then my intent to
delete those emails from the email archive. With some I'll probably put
the email message itself into a "text file" in their folder along with
their Genealogy submission.

2) Since I didn't get any negative feedback I'm going to move ahead and
add Aguascalientes to the Geographical area of research interest for
this group.

joseph

ps: check out my new webpage:
http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/joseph27703/ they give you 30
megabytes free so I eventually might be freeing up some of the Yahoo
Files space up for the newcomers and adding a link in the "links"
section to this page.

I struggled for over a year, attempting to find my father's birth record (another story, another time) I recalled my mother mentioning a cousin of my father's that had lived here in California, Bruno Castaneda. I procrastinated for some time, as I was not interested in researching Bruno's line as I was intent in a direct line...my...my...I learned a lesson here.

I sent for a copy of Bruno's original application from Social Security which stated that he was born in Chimaltitan, Jalisco, I then ordered the film for Chimaltitan which opened some new horizons, that information is attached. Although this is not my direct line, perhaps it will be helpful to someone.

I believe the grandfathers of my father, Ramon Castaneda, and his cousin, Bruno Castaneda were brothers: Maximino Castaneda and Maneor Castaneda due to the approximate years of birth.

Con Saludos, Helyn

Attachment:
Maximino Castaneda.doc

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I just realized that I have not looked at my Castaneda records for over a year, as I have been researching my mother's line, and I have not had the names proofread.  If I pursue that task now it would be weeks before it is accomplished. So for now, I would rather submit my records as promised. Please see attachment.

Thank you, Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda

Attachment:
Castaneda 1.doc

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Hello Ranchos group.

>From Roberta Romero

I would like to say thanks to Stephen Hernandez for soooo much of his 
genealogy work and his sharing it with the group.  

For some reason my oldest aunt does not want to share information on 
my family. So I ask the group and Stephen if they have any 
information on my grandfather - his name is Isidoro Martin born @ 
1905 in Jalisco.  His father's name was Margarito Martin.  Margarito 
had a ranch and two of his children remained on the ranch, they are 
Rafael Martin and Maria Martin (not sure if she married).  My oldest 
aunt does not remember her grandmother's name, but she says she 
remembrs the name Capilla de Guadalupe.  My aunt did share a story - 
she says that the federales killed my grandfather's brother - she 
thinks his name was Everisto (sp?).  They also had children named 
Juanita and Cholie (sp?).

Any info would be help.

Thanks.

Roberta Romero
Albuquerque, NM

I second that!  Irma

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:35 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] cousins



well I'm really glad you are making so much progress.  .  .but all I 
have to say is. . ."develop." Yes now you have been given a lot of your 
genealogy so don't be content with the way it is. Take some of that 
information and order the films and confirm it for yourself. Take the 
information and develop it further. Take some of the later generations 
and add some of the flesh to the bones and add a biography to those that 
you can get info about. Write your mom's or your grandmom's biography. . 
.it doesn't have to be (but it can) real long but even just a few pages 
will be wonderful for someone to read 5 generations from now. Start 
working your genealogy into a form that you can pass to all the branches 
of your family so that this great information won't be forgotten again. 
Let us be the