Sorry, to inconvenience you.  I signed up for your group thinking now would be a good time to do all the research I have been wanting to do on the Alvarez name.  However, it seems my career has a mind of it's own and are presently unable to dedicate the time needed to the just cause.  Can you please remove me from your group.  Thank you.





 Sandra Alvarez

 Senior Staff Accountant

 McDermott, Will & Emery

 (tel) 312.984.6909

 (fax)312.984.3476

 salvarez@...





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Dear Ranchos group,



With this message I would like to point out the importance of having a wide variety of resources, besides just archival records available through microfilm.  Joseph has made the very valid point of consulting books and other printed material.  Also important is having connections and lasting friendships with people in the areas you are researching.  These connections can more often than not provide you with some information you otherwise wouldn't have access to.



In researching the question that Roberta Romero of New Mexico had for me, as to her ancestor (Is it grandfather?  I don't know.) Isidoro Martín, married to Librada Martín, and son of Margarito Martín.  Isidoro was supposedly born around 1905 in Capilla de Guadalupe.  I have a cousin, good friend, and fellow genealogist who lives in Capilla de Guadalupe, by the name of Hugo Moisés Orozco Barba.  The people at the Registro Civil know him well and give him access to the notarial records.  He was able to go

If any of you have any Bibliographys you'd like to contribute please
send them to me and I'll add a file in the files section. The
Bibliography I just added came from a book called "Los Altos de Jalisco"
by Jose Antonio Gutierrez Gutierrez.

There is the table of contents for this book and also a listing of
various Archives at the end of the Bibliography.

Many of the books listed in the bibliography cover a wider geographic
area than the Los Altos area.

Joseph

This may be of interest to the group:

These place names and their translations (see attachment) are
excerpts from a 100 - page booklet written by Gen. Gabriel Gavira and
apparently privately published in Mexico in 1953 (no publisher or
city given). The booklet is titled: 'NOMBRES INDIGENAS DE TODAS LAS
CIUDADES Y MUNICIPIOS DE LA REPUBLICA MEXICANA. Traduccion de su
significado en castellano.' Gavira states that '...el objeto
principal de este folleto es el de difundir los nombres indígenas y
su significado entre los moradores de los pueblos...'

Some of these translations may be out of date, given the early
publication date; but some place names and their translations I
haven't been able to find anywhere else. If anyone is aware of a
more current similar publication could you perhaps inform the group?

Also, if anyone would like names/translations from any other Mexican
state in this booklet just contact me. This attachment contains
native place names from

In the files section there are several small maps. One is called Cuquio 2
and another is called   Colotlan_Huejucar.
these were taken from the same map but just a section as large as the fotocopy
machine I was using would allow (11 x 17). today I went and had these maps
professionally made and I now have one very large Tiff files that is about
7300 kilobytes (big). I wouldn't dare send this to anyone unless they had
a high speed connection.



If anyone is interested in this file contact me off the list and I'll send
it to you. I am not very computer literate and tried to zip the file but
it only went from unzipped format of about 7300 kb to a zipped format of
7100 kb. . .maybe I did something wrong because I thought I would be making
the file a lot smaller by zipping it. . .???



let me know off list if you are interested or if you have an idea as to how
I can make this 7300kb file much smaller via your zip technique.



Joseph

To Ranchos group:



Well I hope everyone had a great Mothers' Day, because I sure did and was extremely busy preparing for our Mothers' Day Barbecue.  I wasn't able to reply until now, but I am glad that my few bits of data on the Martín del Campo family indeed have been so well received and have been useful to many.  And to those who said "Thank You," I say, "You're welcome."  That's you Roberta and Irma.



Also...Welcome Ronnie to the Group.  I have known Ronnie Reynoso for quite some time, as we are both residents of the Los Angeles area and Los Altos descendants.  We have met each other personally and have shared info.



In regard as to whether to share my family history data or keep it to myself, I share it willingly and without any reservations.  What good will all this stuff do either myself or anyone if I just horde it for myself?  Reminds me of the Parable of the Talents.  Only by sharing and networking our work to others out there, can we truly expand our understanding of who

have you looked at the MicroFiche at your FHC? I don't know but
sometimes looking at the Fiche gives you a different perspective with
all the Villegas in either Jalisco or Zacatecas all lumped together. If
you haven't have a look it will be a different kind of search to be
sure. . .also those records were last updated in 1992 and hopefully all
your relatives were included in that last batch. but again all the stuff
you find on Fiche is suppose to be on the FamilySearch Website but its
just something different to look at that might reveal a clue for your.

joseph



Evie Villegas wrote:

Joseph, I really do appreciate your help and just have the feeling
that the answer lies in Ameca. However those records are incomplete
and not many exist. I will just have to go around this roadblock
somehow. There are only two Bartolome possibilities in that time
frame recorded so maybe I will find the connection yet. One Bartolome
has Juan for a father. I haven't given up for

Hola Rancho Members,my name is Ronnie Reynoso ,my search takes me to 
Los altos area -towns -San Julian ,union de san antonio,san Jose de 
los Reynoso and San Miguel el alto.Surnames are many -
Reynoso,Padilla,Magana Centeno,Munoz ,Portillo,Marquez and much 
more.Early names include Romo de Vivar ,Ledesma de La Torre ,Paredes 
de Franco,Gutierrez de Hermosillo,Garcia de (Ramirez and Hermosillo)
and more.Oh before I forget hola Paco(Steve Hernandez)thanks for the 
e-mails you send ,and for the members Steve Hernandez is also a new 
founded relative.I tend to believe I am related to a vast majority of 
people in the Los altos area.Any way thank you for membership.
Ronnie Reynoso ,pariente a casi todos de Los Altos.

Evie I know you probably already saw these but just in case you haven't
here is what I found:

JOSEPHA LEONICIA BILLEGAS FLORES

Female
Christening:

30 APR 1760   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

 Father:  JUAN BILLEGAS Family

Mother: PASQUALA FLORES
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C602863 1755 - 1768 0443673

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who might this be?:

YGNOCENCIA JOSEPHA BILLEGAS

Female
11 JAN 1762 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

 Father:  JUAN BILLEGAS Family

Mother: PASQUALA DE LA TRINIDAD
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C602863 1755 - 1768 0443673

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and this?:

JOSEPHE BARTOLO VILLEGAS
09 SEP 1764   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
 Father:  JUAN VILLEGAS Family

Mother: PASQUALA DE LA TRINIDAD
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C602863 1755 - 1768 0443673

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JOSE TOMAS VILLEGAS