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What's this about a Ranchos2 maintenance message? Maybe I was asleep when this happened, or maybe it was when I was in Mexico, or something. To be frank, I have never attempted to enter the Ranchos2 newsgroup. Do I have to be invited? What do I have to do? Joseph, could you please send me the secret password, or whatever it is that I have to do to access the newsgroup? Cordialmente, Steven H.
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Recently, I discovered that my Villarreal connection was Jewish through the research that others had been doing. When I asked my aunt of this connection, she said yes we are, but it was kept secret because of the discrimination against the Jews in Mexico. Turns out the Jewish secret had been kept since the 1500's. Esperanza
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I love this conversation.
My father's family is from Coahuila area. Once, when I was surveying the very large rancho of the family, we went through a very small village (about 50 people) that seemed to be located in the middle of nowhere, but on the property. I asked my primo what were they were doing here. He explained that they were the peones that worked the land. But what he also explained is that they had very little money, which resulted in extremely limited cooking skills. Mostly, they ate carne asado, with chile and tortillas and beans. The family has gone through large efforts in teaching them how to extend their food portions with guisados, etc.
This, for me was an "aha" moment. The good cooks then had to have come from a much better economic circumstances, as the availability of various products had to be there. I was raised by a family from Los Altos (too long of a story to go into), but the whole family were extremely wonderful cooks - including the men.
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-----Original Message-----
From: sgapodaca
[mailto:sgapodaca@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:17
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re:
Menudo and nopales?
Indeed, menudo and pozole is
part of my maternal family history.
Probably my great-grandmother Ambrosia
Frias (she died before I was
born, but my older brothers and sisters knew
her and tell me that she
was a wonderful woman, they call her Bochita),
learned her cooking
from her mother Pascuala Aguilar, but I am not so sure
about it. I am
going to Zacoalco on January and ask my grandma about it.
However,
this could go even two generations before my great-grandmother
because Bochita, according to my grandma, used to refer a lot to a
woman she called "Mi Jacobita". Later on my research, I found that my
great-grandmother's grandmother,(my third great grandmother?) was
name
Indeed, menudo and pozole is part of my maternal family history. Probably my great-grandmother Ambrosia Frias (she died before I was born, but my older brothers and sisters knew her and tell me that she was a wonderful woman, they call her Bochita), learned her cooking from her mother Pascuala Aguilar, but I am not so sure about it. I am going to Zacoalco on January and ask my grandma about it. However, this could go even two generations before my great-grandmother because Bochita, according to my grandma, used to refer a lot to a woman she called "Mi Jacobita". Later on my research, I found that my great-grandmother's grandmother,(my third great grandmother?) was named Jacoba Castro. I completely agree that we must ask our viejitos about the family personal history. On 2000, my great grandmother Elena Curiel died at age 100. I never had a close relationship with her. Today, I hit my head on the wall every time I think about all the stories, names, events, and stuff
-----Original Message-----
From: Mambo King!!!!
[mailto:javier_m_barrios@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 02,
2004 12:50 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[ranchos] ORAL HISTORYI did an Oral history on my
family's geneology and
believe me, it's something to hear. It's
very nice
to see and hear the
I did an Oral history on my family's geneology and believe me, it's something to hear. It's very nice to see and hear the elders of the family speak like it's nothing. If you do have elders still around, get a ideocamera and a few blank tapes and set it up and just let it run. The nice thing about that is you can get their knowledge and history and you can also get a good videotape of them BEFORE they pass on and the best part of that is they are telling the family story to you and to whoever is watching. Paz --- yolanda medina-perezwrote: > > Recently I went to the library at UTEP in El Paso > and discovered two > interesting projects, one which deals with oral > history and > basically dealing with their memories of life in El > Paso and of > course how they lived back in the early 1930s, 40s, > etc. My cousins > grandmother was interviewed and recorded. The > conversation was later > transcribed and is available to the public. The > second discovery
For those of you, who are looking, for a group, that does cover a larger geographical area of Mexico. I would like to suggest the Mexican FHR group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr/). This is group, that I recently started, because I wanted a Mexican Genealogy group, like the Ranchos and Ciudad Juarez groups, but that covered a larger area. When I saw, the responses to this Poll. I e-mailed Joseph, and asked what he thought. And he said, to go ahead and make suggestion, of the Mexican FHR group, to you all. Thanks, Jonathan Walker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr/ and www.mexicanfhr.com
Wow, what a find. I wish I was there because around 1953 or so my
Grandfather also went to El Paso to visit relatives and then went back
to Jalisco for a visit. Possibly he is in those records you mention.
but as to your question. I am no expert in oral history but before she
died a couple of months ago I was talking to my Aunt who has Jalisco
roots every other week for the last two years of her life. I badly need
to transcribe all those conversations that are on tape along with 100's
of other hours of interviews with relatives. I wish I was 20 people as I
could spend 20 life times just interviewing relatives. I think that is
the main thing you should do is gather gather gather. Get the data while
it is available. One day another generation will die along with all the
stories that only they and possibly a few others knew.
there are some good discussion groups on oral history and maybe you
might want to join this one and ask some general questions there. If you
find some