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These forum posts are from the old “Ranchos Archives” which was part of a Yahoo Groups system that operated between 2003-2006. This was a hybrid of electronic mailing lists and internet message boards. The files are “Read Only” and many of the users of the Yahoo Groups are not part of the new NuestrosRanchos membership, so keep this in mind when viewing these message posts and replies.

New poll for ranchos

I think it should be stricter.  The intent of this board is clear. 
It is meant for serious genealogists who are actively doing their
own research. The messages are open to the public so that those who
want to wait until they are ready to join can still read the
messages posted without feeling pressured to become members.

 

Steven H.

ORAL HISTORY

A number of years of ago, in the midst of working on a business plan; I opted to work for a temporary employment agency to have some cash flowing in. One sunny Friday morning, I received a call for an assignment; I was advised that it would be in the immediate area.
 
However, late in the day, I was notified that the assignment would be in the middle of the most heavily traveled corridor, my first thought was to gracefully decline, but on second thought, I knew it was best to honor my commitment.
 
In th following weeks, I would encounter a young, soft-spoken man, Manuel, who I would meet at the door as I was attempting to dash out in the evening to get that two minute lead on traffic, and thus get to the gym, then home to work on my project. Our conversations were always short, and went something like this:
 
Manuel: In a few days I will be going to Cuidad Obregon, Sonora, to bring my parents to San Jose for a little vacation.
 
Helyn: My mother had a half sister, that she never met

ORAL HISTORY

That is a great idea.  It also helps if you give them
the questions ahead of time.  It gives them time to
think about it and you get better information.  Make
sure you have a good video camera and a good mic. 
Good sound is key.  You may also want to give them old
pictures so as to help them remember.

I have found that my mother feels most confortable
talking about the family history is about the table
when she is making tamales.

good luck.


--- Pacorro73@... wrote:

> In all honesty, recording Oral History is a truly
> beautiful gift we can give 
> our future descendants.  Not only is oral history a
> significant aspect of 
> genealogy, but it is what recording family history
> is all about.  We need to 
> remember that the names that we see and research in
> our files, were those of real 
> living breathing human beings too.  Now that they
> are no longer with us, we 
> must preserve their memory, and remember who they
> were.
> 
> Although I must admit I have not yet done this, I

Que vivan los tamales!


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Que vivan los
tamales! :



food and the making of Mexican
identity /

Jeffrey M Pilcher

1998

English
Book Book
x, 234 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Albuquerque : University of New Mexico Press,
; ISBN: 082631872X (cloth) 0826318738 (paper)


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    Title: Que vivan los tamales! :

    food and the making of Mexican identity /
    Author(s): Pilcher,
    Jeffrey M., 1965-
     
    Publication: Albuquerque
    : University of New Mexico Press,
    Year: 1998
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    Menudo and nopales?



    Well thank you Steven. . .I'm not sure when but one day in hopefully
    the not to distant future I'll be coming back to S. Cal. for another
    visit. All the guisos that you mention sound just terrific especially
    the tacos de lengua. . .I'm really partial to cow and more so to Lamb
    tongue, best meat in the world next to goats head.



    anyway the Tequila part sounds inviting as well. . .I have a story
    about my grandmother going from her town in Northern Jalisco very close
    to Colotlan and being baptized or confirmed in Tequila, Jalisco. Now
    this doesn't make sense since they are so far away from each other for
    the time period I'm talking about (around 1886-1896). Well anyway to
    get to the point yes I'd be interested in seeing his (your Tio Julio)
    pedigree chart. I'm still thinking in the back of my mind that we might
    be primos via our Miramontes and every bit of new info that I see might
    be the piece the puts us together as the one family we possibly might
    have once been.



    thanks again

    Menudo and nopales?

    Darn you are making me very hungry, and I'm in southern cali! smile...
    
    Just kidding but you did make my mouth water right now..
    
    
    
                  gloria
    
    
    
    
    
    From: Pacorro73@...
    Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
    To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [ranchos] Menudo and nopales?
    Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 05:33:29 EST
    
    Hey, Joseph, you stand invited to my house for menudo, or pozole, or a carne
    asada, tostadas de cueritos, carnitas, enchiladas de camaron, costillitas de
    puerco con nopales en salsa de tomatillos, tacos de sesos (o lengua, al
    

    pastor), pepena, mole poblano con arroz y cebollas curtidas, pollo frito en
    salsa
    chipotle, tripitas, cocido, albondigas, or sopes, etc, con arroz y frijoles,
    and

    followed with a great jericalla, flan, capirotada (if it's during lent), and
    

    served with a great agua de naranja, tamarindo, jamaica, or horchata, or a
    shot

    of my Tio Julio's wonderful tequila, Don Julio.  Don Julio Gonzalez Estrada,
    maker of Don Julio Tequila, is my Abuelita Cruz's

    Menudo and nopales?

    Hello Al:
    
    The municipio of Zacoalco de Torres is located in the southern part 
    of Jalisco. The main pueblos in the municipio are Zacoalco, Santa 
    Catarina, 3 Barrancas (Santa Clara, Otates, Laureles) and San Marcos 
    Evangelista. Most of my family lines come from these pueblos and 
    surrounding municipios.
    
    Zacoalco is about midway between Guadalajara and Ciudad Guzman. The 
    pueblos nearby Zacoalco de Torres are: Santa Ana Acatlan, Villa 
    Corona, Techaluta, Atoyac, Atemajac, Amacueca, and Teocuitatlan. 
    Also, Jocotepec, Ajijic and Chapala are really close.
    
    I hope that helps you to locate Zacoalco on the map. And here's some 
    history: It was on this municipio, actually on Santa Catarina, where 
    my Apodaca ancestors are from, where a very important battle of the 
    war of independence took place. A couple months after the Grito de 
    Dolores, the insurgentes were trying to take control of a big city 
    to maintain their strenght. In Jalisco, a man called Jose 
    Antonio "El Amo" Torres was in

    Menudo and nopales?

    Hey, Joseph, you stand invited to my house for menudo, or pozole, or a carne asada, tostadas de cueritos, carnitas, enchiladas de camaron, costillitas de puerco con nopales en salsa de tomatillos, tacos de sesos (o lengua, al pastor), pepena, mole poblano con arroz y cebollas curtidas, pollo frito en salsa chipotle, tripitas, cocido, albondigas, or sopes, etc, con arroz y frijoles, and followed with a great jericalla, flan, capirotada (if it's during lent), and served with a great agua de naranja, tamarindo, jamaica, or horchata, or a shot of my Tio Julio's wonderful tequila, Don Julio.  Don Julio Gonzalez Estrada, maker of Don Julio Tequila, is my Abuelita Cruz's first-cousin.  If you're interested I could show you his pedigree chart.

     

    So whenever you decide to travel outside of North Carolina and visit Southern California, then as they say...MI CASA ES SU CASA.

     

    Cordialmente,

    Steven H.

    Ranchos2/Add a File Please

    go to the links for the Ranchos(1) group and look for the Ranchos2
    link. If you are a member which I'm sure you are Steven then when you
    click on it it'll take you to another link in Ranchos2 that is you
    click on that link will take you to the "files" area of the group. The
    "Files" area of Ranchos2 is used for the genealogy files that are not
    the specific members genealogies. . .misc. genealogy files that pertain
    to our research.



    everyone should look them over and think, "What do I
    know that would be a valuable tool for us all to know."

    After thinking that make up an addition to what you find there.



    joseph



    Pacorro73@... wrote:

    What's this about a Ranchos2 maintenance message?  Maybe I was
    asleep when this happened, or maybe it was when I was in Mexico, or
    something. 
     
    To be frank, I have never attempted to enter the Ranchos2
    newsgroup.  Do I have to be invited?  What do I have to do?
     
    Joseph, could you please send me the secret password, or
    whatever it is

    ORAL HISTORY

    In all honesty, recording Oral History is a truly beautiful gift we can give our future descendants.  Not only is oral history a significant aspect of genealogy, but it is what recording family history is all about.  We need to remember that the names that we see and research in our files, were those of real living breathing human beings too.  Now that they are no longer with us, we must preserve their memory, and remember who they were.
     
    Although I must admit I have not yet done this, I have read that you should prepare before you just start video taping your elders.  If you ask really good questions, you will get really good answers.  Be prepared to be flexible and reactive to your interviewee and sit and back and enjoy while listening to the stories and let them reminisce and remember.  You will see that the past and countless family stories and anecdotes, will make your family's history come alive.  Blend your questions in lively conversation that allow the memories to develop