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Joseph?

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so sorry to hear about your brother. I don't know of ways to preserve
the DNA without one of the collection kits sent out with the test. I
might be wrong about this but I think there are more expensive tests
that can be done with hair. Another thing to consider is does your
brother have any male children because you can pick up your dad's side
via his male children and you can get your mom's mom's mom's etc side
via your own MtDNA.


again sorry to hear about your brother.

joseph

glo Sandoval-Fuentes wrote:


  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
com

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Joseph?

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  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria

Joseph?

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  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria

Luna & Herrera

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Hi Esperanza,
 
I have run across the surnames you mentioned
(de-Herrera & de-Luna) in my Los Altos research in birth & marriage
records.  It's worth a try.  My great Aunt by marriage was a de-Luna
from the ranch, La Cienega located in San Miguel el Alto.  There are still
de Lunas there.  My cousin, Maria -Ventura is married to one, and
lives on that ranch.  I also have De Herrera in my family tree. 
Maria-Tomasa de-Herrera, born in 1776 (4th great grandmother) was born in San
Juan de los Lagos, but her older siblings were born in
Jalostotitlan.
Irma
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

I just wanted to share something that about my past.  Recently, I
learned what native american blood we have from our father's side of the
family.
 
On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores (1742) it is
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DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!

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Wow, what a great
story.  I bet the same happened to many of our grandparents that came
from Mexico during those hard times.  They suffered great hardships and
give up many sacrifices so that we could led a better life.
 
Regards.
 
Alberto.
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Indio Tambien!



alice wissing wrote:

Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with the
group?

absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite
figured out how to do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded this
message to Gary Felix with the question of how best I should share my DNA
results with a group of people.

I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the money and
trouble.

was it worth the money and trouble, well first it
was no trouble at all unless you consider a slight scratching
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Joseph,

These are the Native-American haplogroups for Mt-DNA:
A, B, C, D,

These are the European haplogroups for Mt-DNA: H, J,
U, V, T, X, I

Which one did you come out, I came out X.


Saludos,
Angel Cervantes
Cervantes DNA Surname Project
Project Administrator



		
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

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I just wanted to share something that about my past.  Recently, I learned what native american blood we have from our father's side of the family.
 
On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores (1742) it is mentioned that They were "Indios Tlaxcaltecos" and their parents origin was Nadadores,Coahuila, this is a small town close to Cuatro Cienegas.  Here's what's interesting:  Tlaxcaltecos Indians were not indigenous to Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area.  Upon further research, I found out that these were the same Indians that had befriended Cortez and helped bring the Aztec empire down.  Further, they were brought up by the Espanoles to the Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area to help docile the local population. 
 
I thought this information was wonderful and it was found through birth certificates!.  Our indigenous heritage was purposely down-played, and I, for one was delighted to find out why some of us are "morenos" on our father's side of the family.
 
Regarding the DNA project, a
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alice wissing wrote:

Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with
the group?

absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite figured out how to
do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded this message to Gary
Felix with the question of how best I should share my DNA results with
a group of people.

I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the money and
trouble.

was it worth the money and trouble, well first it was no trouble at all
unless you consider a slight scratching (no blood) of the inside of
your cheek trouble. With regards to the money well I look at that this
way - somebody had to go first so why not me. Heck a thousand years
from now I plan on being a genealogical god. . .i figure someone will
be saying wow that Joseph Puentes sure was a visionary to have done all
that genealogy and his DNA testing to boot! Right now I have some
unique opportunities: To collect Oral History before it dies out AND to
collect DNA
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Food Traditions

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Hello All,
 
I have been following the conversations about food traditions and how to cook Menudo, Pozole, etc.  I don't know if anyone shares the custom that we have in the Sain Alto region of Zacatecas.  Many people have Reliquias (Spelling?).  These are celebrations in honor of a patron saint.  Households will cook a whole lot of food and then pray a rosary in honor of that saint and the best part of all is that the food will be given away to anyone that comes to the house.  If you wish to eat in the home that is acceptable and if not, then families will normally bring a dish and it will be filled to take home.  It is a wonderful tradition that we have in Sain Alto.
 
My husband is from Magdalena, Jalisco and he has never heard of a Reliquia.  My father-in-law's parents and grandparents are from Zacatecas and he has heard of and attended some Reliquia.  So this leads me to believe that it may be a Zacatecas thing.  What do you think?
 
And yes, I too celebrate all of my various
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

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I am in the process of getting my DNA test via a brother.  I notice alot of discussion regarding our rainbow spectrum.  Most of us being from the Central Mexican provinces will be most affected by the Rainbow spectrum.  The silver cities, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes and Jalisco were more predominately Espanol because the Indigenous population was less settled in those areas and thus less present and those that were succumbed to the European illness and savagery of how that part of our bloodline mistreated the labor of that part of the bloodline. I also have the dark to white spectrum in my family, the Rubio's form Los Altos married las morenas from Durango, when grandpa from his flight from Teocaltiche married a second wife, because tragically his first died via the various plaques that affected Mexico during this turbulent time.
 
Spainards are not all blond and blue eyed and only a small minority are tall, from the Extremadura area region, where the conquistadors are from.  Spain is
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