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Arambula es un apellido vasco.

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In a message dated 18/12/2004 04:43:25 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, golcala01@... writes:
Sylvia Robles wrote:
I live in Southern California. San Bernardino-Riverside Inland Empire.  In short I came back from Teocaltiche, Jalisco with a book written by a local historian.  My husbands uncle by marriage noticed the book and his mother Arambula--how Arab can it get-- was from there. 
The surname Arambula is very much a Basque, or Euzkadi, surname, not an Arab name.  Arambula is just variation however of the original Basque form, which was ARAMBURU.  Once over here in Mexico, they began to change the spelling aroung a lot.  Arambulo, which is another variation, is one of my surnames from the Zapotlanejo area.  Originally they came from the Gonzalez de Aramburu family of Nochistlan, Zacatecas. 
 
I've seen it as Aramburu, Arambulo, Arambula, Aranburu, Aranbulo, Aranbula, Aramvuru, Aramvulo, Aramvula, Aranvuru, Aranvulo, Aranvula, and even once as Arambo.  Reminds me
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Luna & Herrera

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Sylvia,
You couldn't have said it any better.  We all come from the same people and as my mother said to me numerous times, "De todo da la mata."  We have so many different kind of people that we come from and yet we all come from the same part of the world.
 
Dora

Sylvia Robles wrote:
I live in Southern California. San Bernardino-Riverside Inland Empire.  In short I came back from Teocaltiche, Jalisco with a book written by a local historian.  My husbands uncle by marriage noticed the book and his mother Arambula--how Arab can it get-- was from there.  My father's uncle married a Luna from Nochistlan.  The circle gets tighter, as a friend of mine is a Luna cousin to my second cousins.  My husbands' cousins' family is from Juchipilia(sic), Santoya.  My niece a Rodriguez like me attended UCLA and during a retreat asked her friend a Rodriguez(Luna) to kill time where his family was from, he said Barstow, my niece said, no relatives Rodriguez in Barstow,{wrong} so where
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Misc. Dissertations: Jalisco

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Sometimes you just can't find your way past a road block. When that
happens you need to ask: "Do I want to get past this obstacle or not?"
Reading stuff that is not directly related to your genealogy is
sometimes necessary. Immersion (bautizmo) is something that you should
consider. . .immerse yourself in everything about your area. read read
read. You never know when you will read something that might give you a
perspective different than your current one. . .one that might get you
to a source of further information. Later if I remember I'll do a search
of Zacatecas and Aguascalientes:

TI: Le role de la religion dans le developpement d'une identite
regionale: La cas de la region de Los Altos de Jalisco, Mexique (French
text)

AU: Lamothe-Genevieve
DN: MA
DD: 2003
SN: McGill-University-Canada (0781)
AD: Norget-Kristin
IB: 0612886581
PG: 96
LA: French

AB: This thesis looks at the origin, development and perpetuation of a
religiously based regional identity in the region of

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SIX TLAXCALAN COLONIES

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If you want to read more about this why not purchase this dissertation
(if you do please let me know as I've been wanting to do it for a long
time, but haven't gotten to it as yet):



TI: SIX TLAXCALAN COLONIES ON NEW SPAIN'S NORTHERN FRONTIER; A
COMPARISON OF SUCCESS AND FAILURE (MEXICO)

AU: SEGO-EUGENE-B

DN: PHD

DD: 1990

SN: INDIANA-UNIVERSITY (0093)

PG: 320

LA: ENGLISH

AB: In their desire to end the long and costly warfare with the nomadic
Indians on colonial Mexico's northern frontier, Spanish officials
pursued a number of remedies; one of which was pacification of the
region through the introduction of colonies of Indian allies from
central Mexico. By far the most energetic and large-scale effort of
this type took place in 1591, when about one thousand Tlaxcalans were
sent north to found six widely scattered settlements. This study traces
the history of five of them (San Luis Colotlan,
San Andres del Teul, San Miguel Mesquitic, Nuestra Senora de la
Asuncion de Tlaxcalilla, and
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Dual Marriage Question

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hi Alicia,

merry christmas. . .

Alicia Carrillo wrote:


Sylvia,


Great history and summary.

My family also hails from Teocaltiche, the Olmos, Ruiz Esparza,
Avelar, Aguayo and Gomez lines. Still trying to decipher some of the
family lines. The GGG, abuelo Prudencio Olmos creatied some
interesting family ties in that he had two sets of wives and families
and appeared to be married at the same time to both women. The first
wife and family should have inherited the wealth but it was just the
opposite. Needles to say this created much dissention within the
families. Through the years I would hear comments such as "son de los
otros Olmos", meaning that it wasn't the same Olmos family. I'm still
working on this and need more verification that they were the same
family. I'm thinking that the reason he could pull this off was
because Prudencio married in different states, first wife in
Nochistlan Zacatecas and second wife in Teocaltiche Jalisco. Does
anyone know of other

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Luna & Herrera

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Sylvia,
 
Great history and summary.
 
My family also hails from Teocaltiche, the Olmos, Ruiz Esparza, Avelar, Aguayo and Gomez lines. Still trying to decipher some of the family lines.  The GGG, abuelo Prudencio Olmos creatied some interesting family ties in that he had two sets of wives and families and appeared to be married at the same time to both women. The first wife and family should have inherited the wealth but it was just the opposite. Needles to say this created much dissention within the families. Through the years I would hear comments such as "son de los otros Olmos", meaning that it wasn't the same Olmos family. I'm still working on this and need more verification that they were the same family. I'm thinking that the reason he could pull this off was because Prudencio married in different states, first wife in Nochistlan  Zacatecas and second wife in Teocaltiche Jalisco. Does anyone know of other instances of dual marriages of one male and married in the church?
 
My
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

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The Villarreal's are a very prominent family from the Zacatecas region, which although a different state than Jalisco is very close to Los Altos.  The main trade caravans during the period using mule teams were out of Teocaltiche.  They traveled locally and all the way to Santa Fe.  I will scan and post the info I have.
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Luna & Herrera

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I live in Southern California. San Bernardino-Riverside Inland Empire.  In short I came back from Teocaltiche, Jalisco with a book written by a local historian.  My husbands uncle by marriage noticed the book and his mother Arambula--how Arab can it get-- was from there.  My father's uncle married a Luna from Nochistlan.  The circle gets tighter, as a friend of mine is a Luna cousin to my second cousins.  My husbands' cousins' family is from Juchipilia(sic), Santoya.  My niece a Rodriguez like me attended UCLA and during a retreat asked her friend a Rodriguez(Luna) to kill time where his family was from, he said Barstow, my niece said, no relatives Rodriguez in Barstow,{wrong} so where were they born...Needles, Ca...oops my dad was born there..so off to the phone to call the elders and yes, they are  first cousins 3X's removed...sharing the same ggg=grandparents.  I laugh at my New Mexico friends who claim puro Espanol..no the Indians you
mentioned as co-conspirators were made
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Site for collecting DNA

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DNA Examinations

I sent this information to Gloria...which might also be helpful to the group on collecting oral samples.

Helyn Castaneda
Buccal (oral)

There are two sources of DNA used in forensic analyses. Nuclear DNA (nDNA) is typically analyzed in evidence containing blood, semen, saliva, body tissues, and hairs that have tissue at their root ends. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is typically analyzed in evidence containing naturally shed hairs, hair fragments, bones, and teeth.

Questions concerning nuclear DNA evidence should be directed to 703-632-8446. Questions concerning mitochondrial DNA evidence should be directed to 703-632-7572. Follow the Evidence Submission directions including Requesting Evidence Examinations and Packaging and Shipping Evidence.
   


Buccal (oral) swabs
  • Use clean cotton swabs to collect buccal (oral) samples. Rub the inside surfaces of the cheeks thoroughly.

  • Air-dry the swabs and place in clean paper or an envelope with sealed
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Joseph?

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My prayers will
be for the recovery of your brother.

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God
bless.

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size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
[mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004
11:40 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Joseph?


   Joseph,

Is there
anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to
sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition
with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the
DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and
be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you
call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and
away from my
computer.

thank you
gloria



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