Pablo Camara

Alguien esta buscando un Pablo Camara mas o menos de 1800 pero el lugar no
se sabe pero puede ser Veracruz. Si tienes un Pablo Camara en su arbol
mandame un correco a joseph@nuestrosranchos.org

Someone is looking for a Pablo Camara more or less from 1800 but the place
is not known but could be Veracruz. If you have a Pablo Camara in your tree
contact me at joseph@nuestrosranchos.org

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

Juan de Araiza Medina y María del Castillo. Tecolotlán. Encontré la verdadera afiliación.

Hola compañeros del foro, se que muchos de ustedes descienden del matrimonio formado entre Juan de Araiza Medina y María del Castillo, vecinos de Tecolotlán, Jalisco, por lo que creo que les puede interesar lo que encontré.

Anteriormente en este mismo foro se hablaba de que Juan de Araiza Medina podría ser el hijo de Juan de Araiza Medina y María de Isla, y efectivamente así es. Encontré una dispensa en la que se menciona a Juan como hermano de Gertrudis de Araiza Medina, quien si se sabe fue hija de Juan de Araiza Medina y María de la Isla.

A continuación pego el link de la dispensa a que hago mención, espero sea de su interés. Yo no desciendo de dicha pareja pero siempre es bueno recordar las necesidades de los compañeros del foro. Suerte en sus búsquedas y un abrazo.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-5066-5?cc=1874591&wc=M…

for Roberto Acevedo, lineage in Jerez, Zac

I just checked your file and find I have your Martinez and Ysais family included
if you will go to Rootsweb.com, go to family trees and put Mexico in the section that calls for name of file then go to the index and find Suriano, Manuela then go to column on top and index in text form it will give you all the records I have on your lines.
Linda Castanon-Long

Happy Thanksgiving!: FW: Somos Primos December 2013

I hope you all have a Safe and Healthful Thanksgiving!

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

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TABLE OF CONTENTS TO DECEMBER 2013
Dear Family, Friends and Somos Primos readers:
This issue completes 14 years of publishing monthly issues of Somos Primos. With the primary mission of supporting family history research, I have attempted to include the diverse range of political sentiments among Latinos communities in the United States, to unite us in our heritage. I have tried to support those involved in education and cultural activities, and above all to encourage and demonstrate the Spanish historic presence, and contributions, in the founding and development of the United States.

Now going into Somos Primos 15th year, much of the categories of information that I have been including in Somos Primos is being offered on literally thousands of websites. However, what is still not in great abundance are our personal stories. Thankfully there are increasing numbers of oral histories projects, mostly associated with a university or public library, plus personal blogs, and social networking sites that are resulting in a new type of personal journal. What I would like Somos Primos to be, is a free service for Hispanics/Latinos to share personal and family history articles. You may feel that y our memories do not matter, that it is too complicated to set up a blog or website to share your few stories, but your memories do matter. Your memories have shaped your thoughts and affect how you interact in a continually changing world. Together we are all creating
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Scattered in the December you will read many memories of Christmas. I am very, very thankful to those that kindly responded to my request to
share a special Christmas memory. and those that continue to send
items of interest. Their contributions are gifts to all of us. Let me invite each of you to consider writing an article for the January issue of Somos Primos on memories of based on a new beginnings for you, changes, such as graduating, moving to a new location, getting married, new baby, new school, new job, new friend, having to start anew because of an accident, new church, new pet, death in the family, new recreation, new car. We all have forks in the road, some were just
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UNITED STATES
Cuento: Los Pastores, The Shepherd's Nativity Play by Hon.Fredrick P.
Aguirre
Cuento: Is There a Santa Claus? by Eddie AAA Calderón, Ph.D.
Hispanics Breaking Barriers, 3rd Vol. 4th Issue by Mercy Bautista-Olvera
Cuento: War of the Worlds, October 30th, 1938 by Mimi Lozano
Cuento: Japanese and the California Coast During WW II by Mimi Lozano Judge Raquel Marquez-Britsch, A Wise Latina by Mercy Bautista-Olvera
Cuento: My father, Marcelino R. Bautista, my Hero by Mercy Bautista-Olvera NPS to Establish New National Historical Park to Honor César Chávez Three-Fourths of Hispanic Say Their Community Needs a Leader Latina Champions in Congress, Latina Style Magazine Highlighting Hispanic Contributions to America by Lino Garcia, Jr.
Ph.D.
The Twenty-Seventh Annual NCLR Capital Awards, March 4, 2014 July 19-22: National Council of La Raza 2014 Annual Conference, Los Angeles HISPANIC LEADERS Houston Civil Rights Icon, Leonel Castillo, Dies at 74 (1939-2013) Jesús "Tato" Laviera, legendary nuyorican poetic giant, dies at 63 Jose Montoya's Sacred Release NATIONAL ISSUES Ray Suarez's shocking departure from PBS I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew by Ben Stein Can students be barred from wearing patriotic clothes? US Army defines Christian ministry as 'domestic hate group'
Strangers in a strange land by Devon G. Peña

ACTION ITEMS
Next Steps for the American Latino Museum Federalist Paper #46, by James Madison: How to Take Action Against Your Government

EDUCATION
How the Spanish Deaf Taught Others to Express Themselves by Mariana Correa Programs of the Odyssey Projects Feria Cardenas/ Feria Educativa Draws 130,000 in Attendance How a Radical New Teaching Method Could Unleash a Generation of Geniuses CULTURE The joy of dance around the world Latinopia Art Aztlan Art Show Amalia Mendoza Y Jose Alfredo Jimenez - desolacion Cielito Lindo Newspaper Tree . . a Conversation with Juan Sandoval
SURNAMES: Moctezuma's Descendants
DNA:
Mexico DNA Project, the Sephardic Connection, by Gary Felix Ancient DNA Links Native Americans With Europe by Michael Balter

My Great Grandfather owned this entire mountain in our village

My Great Grandfather (1856 - 1923) owned this entire mountain along with the fields surrounding the base of the mountain:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/a0cps4.jpg

Here is a view from a distance:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/243rxag.jpg

He also wrote this document in 1893 about the production of honey by bees:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2928905.jpg

El Papaqui de Nochistlan, ZAC 18 enero 2014 y la 9va Legaspiada.

Adjunto (attached) un articulo de los Papaquis en Nochistlan (an article about the Papaquis in Nochistlan). El 18 de enero la familia Legaspi Frias patrocina el dia a San Sebastian (on the 18 of Jan Legaspi Frias Family organizes the feast day for San Sebastian). La 9va reunion familiar de los Legaspi se llevara acabo (the 9th Legaspi Family Reunion will take place on that day). Hagan nota, habra mas de 300 individuos de todo el mundo (there will be over 300 individuals there.) Todos estan invitados. ( all are invited).

http://www.esmas.com/noticierostelevisa/mexico/420243.html

Martín de la Cruz, hijo de Juan de la Cruz y María de Gabay.

Hola compañeros, ayer encontré una conexión más en mi árbol genealógico. Encontré que desciendo nuevamente del matrimonio formado por Juan de la Cruz y María Gabay. Encontré que ellos tuvieron un hijo llamado Martín de la Cruz, y este tuvo a Antonio de la Cruz; ¿alguno de ustedes tiene información al respecto sobre ellos y sus cónyuges?

Creo que Martín de la Cruz pudo ser el casado con Jacinta de Olivas en Nochistlán, pero no tengo un dato seguro aquí.

Atentamente.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco.

drawing next to a baptism entry

Hi
I saw this drawing of an animal head (bird?) next to a baptism entry. If someone has time, could you take a look and post what you think it is? Has anyone else seen anything like this? Anyone know what it could mean? My curiosity was piqued...

Michoacan, Sagrario, 7 Dec 1603, image 84,
Andres son of Pedro Garcia Maldonado and Maria (?)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18744-23591-19?cc=1883388&wc…

Regards
Denise

Garcia and Delgado in Old Aguascalientes

Hi Early Aguascalientes Researchers:

I'm trying to unravel a mystery. I'm looking for the ancestors of Antonio Garcia who married Francisca Xavier de Cordoba on Aug. 30, 1730 in Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos. His parents: Christoval Garcia and Getrudis Delgado.

As you know Delgado and Garcia are early Spanish families in Aguascalientes, but I'm not certain of my connections. Bernardo Antonio Garcia was baptized June 29, 1707 in El Sagrario, Aguas (Film 299424), son of Christoval and Getrudis. I have baptism of some of his siblings too. He was Español.

Question is: Does anyone have the marriage of his parents?? The marriage film for this period is extremely bad and dark and barely readable. I'm looking for the marriage of Christobal Garcia and Gertrudis Delgado, circa 1704 to 1707. I am trying to determine their baptisms and parentage.

I believe Christoval was baptized Aug. 5, 1861 in Sagrario (Film 299422), son of Juan Garcia and Juana de Ulloa- He is Español. I found this baptism today. BUT, a Christoval Garcia was also allegedly baptized Jan. 9, 1688 in Aguas. He has different parents.

Getrudis Delgado Lopez was baptized Oct. 22, 1868 in Sagrario (Film 299422), daughter of Juan Delgado and Margarita Lopez. She is Española. But another Gertruds was born in 1679, daughter of Diego Delgado and Nicolasa Lopes.

Juan Delgado was baptized Aug. 1, 1647 (Sagrario, Film 299421) as son of Joseph Delgado and Francesca Garrai (aka Gabai y Tiscareno). And this couple, Jose Delgado and Francesca Tiscareno were married Aug. 30, 1644, and the rest his history, the famous Ruiz de Esparza line, the alleged Moctezuma/Cortez connection, and the pioneer Delgado line.

Does anyone have any links that I don't have. Does anyone know about the marriage of Christoval and Gertrudis? Thanks.

John Schmal aka "Lost in Early Aguascalientes"

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Important R1b news

This past weekend there was they had the 9th Annual International
Conference on Genetic Genealogy and some of what has been said on forums
for a while is now an official stance on the origins of the R1b haplogroup
and it's spread into Western Europe including Spain.

He talked about P311 which is the parent of P312 and U106 and U152 which
are all found in our region of research. Many of your ancestors belongs to
these groups.

"Hammer says that in his opinion, he thought that if P311 is so frequent
and widespread in Europe it must have been there a long time.
*However, it appears that he and most everyone else, was wrong. *
The hypothesis to be tested is if P311 originated prior to the Neolithic
wave, it would predict higher diversity it the near east, closer to the
origins of agriculture. If P311 originated after the expansion, would be
able to see it migrate across Europe and it would have had to replace an
existing population.

Because we now have sequences the DNA of about 40 ancient DNA specimens,
Michael turned to the ancient DNA literature....This evidence supports a
recent spread of haplogroup R lineages in western Europe about 5K years
ago. This also supports evidence that P311 moved into Europe after the
Neolithic agricultural transition and nearly displaced the previously
existing western European Neolithic Y, which appears to be G2a."

http://dna-explained.com/2013/11/12/2013-family-tree-dna-conference-day…

He also talked about the movement of R1b from eastern Europe to western
Europe, which goes against the old Franco-Cantrabrian refugium.

"We are now talking about population movements without about the past 4,000
years. R1b appears in the Caucasus by the early Neolithic. By the end of
the Neolithic, it is still isolated to pockets in Eastern Europe. Then in
the Early-Mid Bronze age about 4500-4000 years ago, R1b was found in
central Europe. By about 4000-3500 years ago, R1b begins to reach western
Europe. In the Iron Age 3200-3000 years ago there was a period of
differentiation in centers of renewed expansion. It is possible that this
continued through the Iron Age and can be seen as recently as 2,000 years
ago. There is a lot left to be learned and the ancient DNA contribution
will be very large to determine the R1b overtaking of the Neolithic
chromosomes."

http://www.ancestorcentral.com/archives/821

Here is a picture of the movement of P312 going west from east and the
subclade Z195, a child of P312 and DF27, showing up in France. From there
subclades of Z195 made their way into Spain.

http://www.ancestorcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/8037.jpg

There is much more information in the blogs such as the only ancient
remains found in western Europe from 5,000 to 7,000 years ago belong to
haplogroups G2a, G2a3, I2a, F, and E1bibi. So those were there before R1b.

Saludos,
Armando

Benigno Macias Y Lugarda Palacios

Mi nombre es Eduardo Macías González, y estoy buscando familiares de Villa García, Zacatecas. mi abuelo era Jesús Palacios Macías, nacido en 1879, en Villa García, su padre fue Benigno Macias y su madre era Lugarda Palacios.
Jesús vino a Arizona a principios de 1900 para trabajar en las minas de cobre en Metcalf, Arizona, y trajo a su familia, pero ellos regresaron a Villa García después de un corto tiempo. Jesus se quedo en Arizona trabajano en las minas. No sé el número de hijos que tenían, y ninguno de ellos probablemente viven, pero quizás sus hijos o nietos puedan saber de él. Les agradesco por ayuda en contactar con mi familia en Villa García.. Por favor alguien ayudeme.
Eduardo Macías Gonzalez
gonzalezeddi49@yahoo.com

Juan Avila/Josepha Ximenes - Tlaltenango, ZAC

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Evie (bottom of page Juan Avila)

I am hoping for help with information in determining the parents of Juan Avila who married Josepha Ximenes. There is a marriage of Juan Salvador De Abila and Josepha Gregorio Ximenes in Tlaltenango, ZAC 10 Mar 1733. The dates appear to be very wrong for my Juan and Josepha who had children between 1714 and 1734 and yet I wonder where they fit in. Parents who married after having children? Parents of this Juan would be Juan De Abila and Francisca De Castro, Tlaltenango. However, on Petra's wedding document, the parents are listed as Juan De Abila Maldonado and Josepha Ximenes (Tlaltenango). I have spent time tracing the Maldonado connection only to wonder if I should be tracing the Avila-Castro connection. Thanks. Evie

Research Digest, Vol 94, Issue 6

Que interesante, ya que yo estoy rastreando mi apellido ARAIZA. Escribo
desde Chihuahua, Chihuahua. Mis abuelos provenian desde Zacatecas (San
Pedro Piedra Gorda), pero mis bisabuelos de Asientos Ausacalientes alla por
1863.. Ando buscando las conexiones de los años 1700 - 1800.
Que informacion tan valiosa,a unque aun no encuentre nexos directos con
Juan Araiza, pero ahi la llevo.
Por tanto no me resta mas que decir MIEL GRACIAS

El 8 de noviembre de 2013 16:07, escribió:

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> vecinos de Tecolotl?n, Jalisco, por lo que creo que les puede interesar lo
> que encontr?.
>
> Anteriormente en este mismo foro se hablaba de que Juan de Araiza Medina
> podr?a ser el hijo de Juan de Araiza Medina y Mar?a de Isla, y
> efectivamente as? es. Encontr? una dispensa en la que se menciona a Juan
> como hermano de Gertrudis de Araiza Medina, quien si se sabe fue hija de
> Juan de Araiza Medina y Mar?a de la Isla.
>
> A continuaci?n pego el link de la dispensa a que hago menci?n, espero sea
> de su inter?s. Yo no desciendo de dicha pareja pero siempre es bueno
> recordar las necesidades de los compa?eros del foro. Suerte en sus
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Acevo Colonial Digital of Aguascalientes

Hi

I was wondering if anyone can get anything in the Arcevo Colonial Digital of Aguascalientes to work:

http://eservicios.aguascalientes.gob.mx/SEGGOB/acervodigital/bienvenido…

Several months ago, I could page through the list (although the links to the documents did not Work). Now I can't even go beyond the first page of hits. Even though I cannot get to the docs themselves, it still is interesting seeing what is there - and who is there - at a particular point in time.

Regards
Denise

Familia Espitia

Hola a todos, he estado haciendo mi arbol genealogico y me ya no he
avanzado mas atras del año 1800, los apellidos de mi familia en ese año son
Tavares, Espitia, Macias, Ortis, Gomez, Soto, Collazo y Ramos todos
originarios de Lagos de Moreno (antes Santa maria de los Lagos)

Cuales de estos apellidos son originarios de la region e los Altos ? es
para para centrar en ellos mi estudio.
Saludos y de antemano gracias a su valiosa ayuda

Research Digest, Vol 94, Issue 2

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The Viking Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup I)

Please contact Angel directly for the attachment:

---- "Angel R. Cervantes" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Anthropological Genetic
> Genealogy: The Viking Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup I). If
> you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made
> on the Iberian Peninsula then this presentation is for you. There will be a
> presentation on the subject on *November 8 at 3:30 PM*, through the
> University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.
>
> Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:
>
>
> http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.
> ClassInformation&int_class_id=57691&int_category_id=0&int_sub_category_id=0
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Ángel de Cervantes
> Project Administrator
> New Mexico DNA Project
> Iberian Peninsula DNA Project
>
>
> P.S. For more information open the attachment.

Pinos Zacatecas 1680-1740: Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor - Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada - Mathias Gomez [de Sotomayor?]

Hola primos y primas,

Estoy investigando mis antepasados Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada e
Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor, que vivian en Pinos, Zacatecas, 1680-1740.
Francisco Sanchez nacio alrededor del 1685, en la ciudad de San Luis
Potosi, hijo natural de Cristobal Sanchez y de Francisca Narvaez, solteros.
Los tengo con 4 hijos:

I am researching my ancestors Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada and Ysabel
Ruiz de Villasenor, who lived in Pinos, Zacatecas, 1680-1740. Francisco
Sanchez was born around 1685 in la Ciudad de San Luis Potosi, hijo natural
of Cristobal Sanchez and Francisca Narbais. I have them having four
children:

1. Josepha Mejorada Ruiz, b. 18 Apr 1698 en Pinos (Salitrillo), m. Diego
Delgado Gallegos, 16 Feb 1722, Pinos, Zacatecas.
2. Joaquin Sanchez de la Mejorada, b. 2 Apr 1699, Pinos (Salitrillo), m.
Juana Anastacia de la Puente, 10 Feb 1725, Venado, SLP.
3. Francisca Sanchez Ruiz, se caso con Juan Delgado Gallegos, 16 Oct
1719, Pinos, Zacatecas. Diego y Juan Delgado eran hijos de Juan Husebio
Delgado y de Pascuala Gallegos Cabrera.
4. Jose Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada, b. 26 Nov 1703 en Pinos
(Salitre), m. Marina Gomez Tiscareno, 6 Oct 1721, Pinos, Zacatecas. Marina
era hija de Nicolas Gomez y de Lorenza Tiscareno Huerta.

No tengo nada sobre Ysabel Ruiz, solo que se murio antes del 6 Feb 1715,
cuando Francisco Sanchez se caso por segunda con Margarita de Cuevas. He
encontrado a una Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor, casada con Mathias Gomez,
tambien vivian en Pinos y durante la misma epoca, de hecho, Francisco
Sanchez es testigo para el matrimonio de un hijo de Mathias Gomez. Los
hijos de Mathias Gomez e Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor son:

I have nothing on Ysabel Ruiz, other than she dies some time before 6 Feb
1715, when Francisco Sanchez married for a second time to Margarita de
Cuevas. I have found an Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor married to Mathias Gomez,
also in Pinos and around the same time frame. Francisco Sanchez was testigo
for the marriage for one of their children, so they knew each other. The
children of Mathias Gomez and Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor are:

1. Pedro Gomez, nacio alrededor del 1686 en Zacatecas, m. Maria
Xertrudes Sanches Narbais, 17 Jun 1706 en Pinos, Zacatecas. En su partida
nupcial, no sale el apellido de ella, dice que es de padres no conocidos;
pero en el baustimo de un hijo suyo sale con el apellido "Sanchez" y en
otro "Narbais"; puede ser hija natural de Cristobal Sanchez y de Francisca
Narbais? Hermana de Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada?
2. Maria Gomez, nacio alrededor del 1689, m. Nicolas Castaneda, 5 Oct
1712 en Pinos, Zacatecas. Nicolas Castaneda era hijo de Antonio Castaneda
Vargas y de Thomasa de Carrion. Fueron testigos los Capitanes Antonio de
Gusman Prado y Esteban Munos de Pineda.
3. Juan Baptista Gomez, a. 1688; m. Catalina Bernarda Aguilar, 6 Feb
1715, Pinos. Catalina Bernarda era hija de Antonio Aguilar y de Maria Diaz
de Guerta. Fueron testigos los Capitanes Francisco Sanchez Cabello y
Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada.
4. Joseph Gomez de Sotomayor, a 1687, m. Josepha de Aguilar, 6 Feb 1723,
Pinos, Zacatecas. PREGUNTA: hay una Josepha Francisca Aguilar y un Joseph
Ruelas de Sotomayor, que son padres del novio Jose Antonio Ruelas de
Sotomayor, que se caso con Maria del Carmen Gomez, 11 Sep 1756 en Pinos:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5FZ-DLN Sera la misma pareja?
Gomez de Sotomayor=Ruelas de Sotomayor? Y si es caso, donde esta la
conexion? QUESTION: there's a Josepha Francisca Aguilar and Joseph Ruelas
de Sotomayor, who are the parents of Jose Antonio Ruelas de Sotomayor, who
married Maria del Carmen Gomez on 11 Sep 1756 in Pinos: are they the same
persons? Gomez de Sotomayor=Ruelas de Sotomayor? And if that's the case,
where is the connection? Juana Gomez Ruiz, b. 10 Jul 1690, Pinos, Zacatecas.

Mathias Gomez se murio antes del 1697; puede ser que Ysabel Ruiz se caso
con Capitan Francisco de la Mejorada en 2a nupciales, pero no he encontrado
la informacion y no se si fue viuda. La tendra alguien? O tiene informacion
sobre estas personas? Es la misma Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor?

Mathias Gomez died before 1697; Ysabel Ruiz de Villasenor could have
married Capitan Francisco Sanchez de la Mejorada in a second marriage, the
timelines fit, but I haven't found the information and I don't know if she
was a widow. Would any of you have any info on this? Is she the same Ysabel
Ruiz de Villasenor?

Tengo otras preguntas, a ver si alguien sabe algo:

I have some more questions, hopefully someone knows something:

El hijo de Mathias Gomez, Jose Gomez, lleva el apellido compuesto, "Gomez
de Sotomayor"; la esposa de Jose Francisco Sanchez era Marina Gomez
Tiscareno, hija de Nicolas Gomez y de Lorenza Tiscareno, tambien en algunos
documentos de sus hijos o nietos, la he visto citada como "Marina Gomez de
Sotomayor." Habra algun conexion entre ellos? Entre Mathias Gomez y
Nicolas Gomez? Y entre Gomez de Sotomayor y Ruelas de Sotomayor?

The son of Mathias Gomez, Jose Gomez, uses the compound surname "Gomez de
Sotomayor"; the wife of Jose Francisco Sanchez was Marina Gomez Tiscareno,
daughter of Nicolas Gomez and Lorenza Tiscareno Huerta, in a couple of her
children or grandchildren's documents, I've seen her listed as "Marina
Gomez de Sotomayor." Is there a connection between them? Between Mathias
Gomez y Nicolas Gomez? And between Gomez de Sotomayor y Ruelas de Sotomayor?

Help! Caldera lineage

Arturo and everyone else in the group.

I've been trying to enter my Caldera line using the information in the files by Susan Leniski. I'm having a problem with the time line between the births of the children of Pedro Cid Caldera and Ana Maria Carrillo. My interest is in their daughters Clara Cid and Ysabel Cid, I can't find a birth date that works for them. In fact I can't figure the date of birth for their father Pedro Cid Caldera!

The girls mother Ana Maria Carrillo must have been born abt 1600 and thats the problem. I can make Clara Cid Caldera work if she's born abt 1630 but Ysabel Cid Caldera and husband Clemente Acuna have their first child abt 1691 or so, and their last abt 1710.. How does that work???? HELP

Linda in Everett

Family Search Web Site Help

Hi Everyone, up until yesterday I was able to research images (microfilm) with my old google browser and windows xp. The images would open up already focused, even when moving the image. This morning, the Family Search part worked fine but my browser would not open images any longer. I was forced to download Google Chrome. My first time viewing images on Google Chrome.

Is it normal for the image to open unfocused and then gradually focus. Is there another browser that does not do this.It is very hard on the eyes after searching through hundreds of images when you have to wait for the focus.

Any advise would be appreciated on this issue.

Thank You
Ruben Rojas Delgado

Montes Vigil

I am new to this group and would like to introduce myself. I have been doing genealogy for 45 years and have a database on FTM of 105,000 names; my pedigree chart is 4' x 80' long. My Montes Vigil book is over 2,500 pages long with a 500 page index. It consists of 6 volumes of 500 pages each.

i found these two doucments and...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18417-10487-23?cc=1874591&wc…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18417-10396-3?cc=1874591&wc=…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-45530-16?cc=1874591&wc…

I wonder if the maria chavez y banuelos mention in both dispensations is my ancestor clara chavez(who married juan de la torre y valdez). the reason why i'm unsure if they are the same one or not since i found some other doucments earlier that kind of contradict those above doucments

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18427-22425-16?cc=1874591&wc…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18412-60355-80?cc=1874591&wc…