Carlos C. Gutierrez 1902-1959

I am so excited to find this group. Reading the other posts gives me hope. I've run into a dead end at the border for Carlos...

I'm looking for Carlos C. GUTIERREZ from the time he crossed into the USA and earlier. He stated in his naturalization papers (1954) that he immigrated and stayed in the USA continuously from 2 Jul 1926 and crossed at El Paso, Texas "on the El Paso Electric Co." He also stated that he was born 4 Nov 1902 in Union, Jalisco, Mexico.

On the death records for Carlos, it states his parents were Lorenzo GUTIERREZ and Emilia CABILLO.

I would be grateful for suggestions on where to look for Carlos or his parents and family.

Carlos C. GUTIERREZ
Lorenzo GUTIERREZ
Emilia CABILLO

Spain and the American Revolution Travel Tour to Spain and . . .

from Judge58@aol.com

Dear TCARA members,

The SAR cordially invites you to participate in our trip to Spain to
honor Spain's assistance during the American Revolutionary War. We're
meeting the King of Spain and conducting a Charter celebration for the
new SAR Society in Spain. We're paying homage to Gen. Bernardo Galvez in
his home town, and at the Malaga Cathedral, where he was successful in
obtaining the money they had saved up to build the south tower of the
cathedral.

Please forward this message to the Bexar County Hispanic Genealogy
Society, the Canary Island Assn, and the Granaderos de Galvez, as I
don't have their respective e-mail addresses.

Details of the trip are as follows:

Please join us for the SAR trip to Spain from May 10 - 20, 2010. Group
airline rates from Washington, DC are available. Stay in outstanding
hotels, and enjoy delicious Spanish food. In Madrid, we are scheduled to
have an audience with King Juan Carlos, who is an SAR member. The tour
includes visits to the Royal Palace, Royal Armory, Army Museum, Navy
Museum, Plaza Mayor, and the incomparable Prado Museum. While in Madrid
we will visit El Escorial, burial site of ancient Spanish Royalty, and
scenic Toledo, where the finest steel swords in the world are made. In
Madrid there will be a reception at the US Embassy, where hopefully we
will visit with the US Ambassador to Spain.

By train and bus we travel to Macharaviaya, the home town of General
Bernardo Galvez for a celebration, followed by a ceremony at the Malaga
Cathedral, where the church donated their fund for the construction of
the South Tower to Gen Galvez. These funds were used for arms and
ammunition to protect the Mississippi River and Gulf Coast from the
British during the Revolutionary War. In Malaga visits are also planned
to Gibralfaro Castle and the Old Quarter.

In Granada we will visit the incomparable Alhambra Palace, where we will
gain insight into the lives of the Moors, who conquered most of Spain
and occupied it for 700 years. On the Costa Del Sol, there will be time
for swimming, shopping, or leisure strolls along the boardwalk. Also
included is a visit to scenic Rhonda. En route we stop to view the
construction of the brig Galveztown.

Consider an extra few days on the post trip extension which will allow
time for visits to historic Gibraltar, and exotic Tangier, Morocco. To
register and insure a place on the tour, send $200.00 per person to
David Eld, Magic Meetings and Incentives, 3901 North Stevens St.,
Alexandria, Virginia, 22133. For additional information contact him at
703-379-8071 or e-mail him at deld@magicglobal.com Final payment due NLT
Feb. 10, 2010.

A $200 deposit per person is required by 9/30/09 for the main trip and
an additional $100 per person for the extension.

We hope that you will join us on this historic event.

Fraternally,

Ed Butler
President General 2009-2010

The Sons of the American Revolution is the leading male lineage society
that perpetuates the ideals, principles and liberties established by the
founding fathers during the American Revolution. As a patriotic,
historical, and educational organization, we seek to maintain and expand
the knowledge and meaning of patriotism, promote respect for our
national symbols, and the value of our American citizenship. Through
these efforts we hope all Americans come to have a better understanding
of their rights and duties as expressed in the US Constitution and the
Bill of Rights. God bless the SAR!

========================

The National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution
Madrid—Malaga
May 10—20 , 2010

Compatriots,

Please join us for a wonderful 10 day trip to Spain, May 10-20, 2010. We
will visit the Cathedral in Malaga, where the church members donated the
money for the second tower of the church to Gen Bernardo Galvez, for
guns, ammunition, and supplies to fight the English up the Mississippi
and along the Gulf Coast. There will be time for lounging on the beach
along the Costa Del Sol. Savor the scenic side trips in the south of
Spain to the exotic Alhambra Palace near Granada; enjoy a celebration in
the small home town of Gen. Galvez; delight in the magnificent vista
from Rhonda, historic Gibraltar, and an optional day trip to explore
Tangier, Morocco.

In Madrid tour the Royal Palace and Armory, and hopefully have an
audience with SAR member King Juan Carlos. In Madrid we will visit the
incomparable Prado Museum, see El Cid’s huge sword at the Army Museum
and marvel at the ship models in the Naval Museum. There will be time
for a casual stroll through the magnificent Plaza Major, where you can
savor some tapas. Side trips include visits to historic Toledo and
stately Escorial, burial place of many Spanish kings.

An optional tour to Costa del Sol is offered.

Consult your tax advisor about the deductibility of this trip for
members of the SAR and members of the SAR Ladies Auxiliary.

Judge Ed Butler
SAR Spain Trip Coordinator

The itinerary planned for the Spain program is shown below. Please note
changes are possible until the official visits are confirmed.

ITINERARY
Monday, May 10—Depart U.S.A. for Spain.

Tuesday, May 11—Arrive Madrid. Transfer from airport to hotel. Check in
at the InterContinental Hotel. Afternoon at leisure followed by Welcome
Reception in evening.

Wednesday, May 12—City tour of Madrid including Royal Palace, the Armory
and Old Quarter. Lunch at local restaurant. Afternoon tour of Army &
Navy Museum. View trophies, flags, uniforms, weapons and scale-models
describing the history of Spain’s armed forces. Reception hosted by Navy
League followed by dinner on your own.

Thursday, May 13—Morning visit to the U.S. Embassy followed by excursion
to El Escorial. Explore the most magnificent Monastery of Spain from
where King Philip II ruled the world. Lunch is included. Tour concludes
with wreath ceremony at El Escorial. Audience with Royal Family. Evening
at leisure.

Friday, May 14—Full day tour to Toledo, one of the most delightful
cities of Spain. The wealth of its impressive artistic and cultural
legacy makes it one of the most unique cities in Europe. Visit the
Cathedral, Jewish Quarter and Santo Tome Church. Lunch included. Evening
at leisure.

Saturday, May 15—Day at leisure. Special Dinner at a private club.

Sunday, May 16—Transfer from hotel to train station. Depart Madrid for
Antequera by high-speed train. Transfer to Granada. Enjoy lunch before
tour to the Alhambra. This unique building is a fortress, residence and
royal city all in one. Transfer to Malaga. Check in at the Malaga
Palacio Hotel. Evening at leisure.

Monday, May 17—Full day excursion to Macharaviaya. Visit this old
farming village where in 1786 the villagers dedicated a monument to the
Galvez family to express their gratitude. Ceremony with plaque to honor
General Bernardo Galvez followed by official lunch. Evening at leisure.

Tuesday, May 18—Morning reception with Malaga Town Council followed by
tour of Malaga. Visit Gibralfaro Castle and Old Quarter. Lunch at local
restaurant. Public ceremony at the Cathedral and presentation of a
Plaque of Honor. Dinner hosted by the Convention Bureau of Costa del Sol.

Wednesday, May 19—Full day excursion to Ronda.
En route stop at shipyard to view the brig Galveztown under construction
to be completed in May 2011.
Explore the historic quarter reminiscent of the Arab age and more
“modern” Ronda built after the 16th century. Lunch at local restaurant.
Farewell Dinner.

Thursday, May 20—Transfer to Malaga airport for your return flight to
the U.S. via Madrid or continue by coach to Costa Del Sol on Post
Program Tour.

LAND COST Per Person: $3,850.00
(Sharing a double occupancy room)

INTERNATIONAL AIR FARE per person from Washington, DC to Madrid and
return Malaga/Madrid/Washington, DC for 2010 is estimated at: $1,000.00

Note: The cost is subject to change if the number of attendees falls
below 40. The price is based on the exchange rate valid in February 2009
and is subject to change.

INCLUSIONS:
Hotel accommodations in Madrid for five nights and in Malaga for four
nights including breakfast, service and taxes.
Airport transfers and transfer to train station.
High-speed train from Madrid to Antequera.
Sightseeing as indicated in itinerary including English-speaking guides.
Official visits and receptions as listed in itinerary.
Welcome reception.
Meals as shown in itinerary.

SPLENDOR OF SPAIN

When you think of Spain you'll most likely picture bullfights, beaches
and flamenco dancing, but although these do capture the very essence of
Spain, this vibrant country has a whole lot more to offer.

Madrid, the capital of Spain since 1562, is a city of great monuments.
Among its highlights are the medieval center, dating back to the
Habsburg Empire, and the Prado Museum. But Madrid is not just a cultural
destination. It is also a lively metropolis with many pubs, cafes,
discotheques and nightclubs open late into the night.

Malaga, inhabited for more than 2,000 years by different Mediterranean
civilizations, combines today its traditions with modernity. Stretching
below the watchful eye of the Castle of Gibralfaro is a lively and
bustling city with neighborhoods of rich Andalusian flavor.

OPTIONAL POST TOUR TO MARBELLA
(3 nights)

Thursday, May 20—Transfer by coach to Marbella. Check in at the Hotel El
Fuerte Marbella. Rest of day at leisure.

Friday, May 21—Full day excursion to Gibraltar. Visit the city center,
Punta de Europa and the Trinity Lighthouse. Lunch at local restaurant.
Evening at leisure.

Saturday, May 22—Day at leisure. Optional tour to Tangier, Morocco.
Farewell Dinner.

Monday, May 23—Transfer to Malaga airport for your return flight back to
the U.S via Madrid.

COST Per Person: $992.00
(Sharing a double occupancy room)

Note: The cost is subject to change if the number of attendees falls
below 20. The price is based on the exchange rate valid in February 2009
and is subject to change.

INCLUSIONS:
Hotel accommodations in Marbella for three nights including breakfast,
service and taxes.
Airport transfers.
Sightseeing as indicated in the itinerary including English-speaking guides.
Lunch in Gibraltar.
Farewell dinner.

COSTA DEL SOL

The most all year round tourist destination in Europe, Costa del Sol has
numerous magnificent well-kept beaches. The average water temperature is
65º F ( and 75º F in August).

There is also much to see away from the beach. Miles of unspoiled and
protected countryside peppered with white villages. The mountains back
the coast: Montes de Malaga, Serania de Ronda, Sierra Blanca, Sierra
Bermeja, Concha Mountain. They are covered with a diverse range of
flora. Here you can enjoy nature and the hospitality of the White villages.

RESERVATION REQUIREMENT:
SAR Honoring Spain: Mail the enclosed reservation form with your deposit
to MAGIC Meetings at the address below. A deposit of $200 per person is
required to reserve space on the Program visiting Madrid and Malaga.

Post Tour to Marbella: An additional deposit of $100 per person is
required to reserve space on Post Tour. Include your deposit in the
check for the Main Program.

FULL PAYMENT DUE NO LATER THAN
FEBRUARY 10, 2010

CANCELLATION POLICY
Deposit is refundable in full up to July 15, 2009 for SAR Honoring Spain
program and the Post Tour to Costa del Sol. Any cancellations received
between July 16, 2009 and February 10, 2010 are charged $100 per person
cancellation fee. Cancellations received between February 11 and March
10, 2010 will be charged $450 per person cancellation fee. Between March
11 and April 10, 2010 the fee is 75% the full cost of trip. No refunds
are made after April 11, 2010.

CANCELLATION INSURANCE
If you wish to receive information on cancellation insurance, please
check here ___.

We recommend you send in your reservations early to ensure your
attendance on the tour.

Contact:

David Eld
Magic Meetings and Incentives
3901 North Stevens Street
Alexandria, Virginia 22133
Tel.: 703.379.8071
Fax: 703.671.1937
Email: deld@magicglobal.com

Are Merced Medina and Merced Macias the same person Calvillo , Ags. 1800's

Calvillo, Aguascalientes church records have me believing that they may be the same person. The names Merced Medina and Merced Macias come up in records naming her as a parent or grandparent. In some records she is called by Medina in another record Macias. I have been unable to clear up the relationship. I only have my suspicions.

Concider these conflicting entries.
Matrimony of Diego Serna and Marcela Lopez , June 11 1829
Diegos parents Juan Manuel Serna and Merced Macias

Diegos' and Marcela childrens entries of Grandparents are as follows

child Grandparents names
YSIDRO b. 03 Apr 1830 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
JACINTO b. 15 Aug 1831 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
SOTERA b. 21 Apr 1833 Juan Cerna and Merced Macias
Clemencia b. 22 Nov 1835 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
Ysabel b. 02 Jul 1837 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina
Juana b. 23 Jun 1839 No entry
Jacinta b. 16 Aug 1841 Juan Cerda and Merced Medina
Siriaca b. 17 Jun 1843 Juan Cerda and Merced Masias
J. Refugio b. 01 Jun 1845 Juan Serda and Merced Medina
Manl. Adrian b. 08 Sep 1847 Juan Serna and Merced Masias
Bruno b. 09 Oct 1849 Juan Serna and Merced Masias
Nasario b. 26 Jul 1852 Juan Manl. Serna and Marcela Lopez , I am thinking this Marcela Lopez is a clarical Error as Marcela Lopes is the Mother not the grandmother.

Jose Manuel Serna and Trinidad Aguilera childrens entries of Grandparents are
child Grandparents
Crecensio b. 29 Dec 1805 Juan Serna and Merced Macias
Anto. Gil b. 01 Sep 1813 Juan Manuel Serda and Maria Merced
Manl. b. 15 Jun 1826 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina

IN the marriage of Casimiro Saucedo and Anastacia de los Dolores Serda m. 03 Feb 1799 . Anastacias's parents are Manuel Serda and Ma. Merced Macias.

In the decendants of Matias Serna and Juana Esparsa

child Grandparents
Jose Anto. b. 04 Aug 1814 Juan Manuel Serda and Merced Medina
Jose Pablo b. 07 Jun 1826 Juan Cerna and Merced Medina

The Serna, Serda , Cerna , Cerda variations dont bother me .. its the confusion of Maria Merced and Maria Medina . I need some clarifying information. Thanks in Advance. my contact info is Mooskies4 at aol dot com

Bookstores

I just wanted to point out, since we have lots of new members and since I have been cleaning up the Links section of the site, that there are recommended bookstores in the Links section. Those stores sell genealogy books relevant to our region. There are also some recommended general Mexican genealogy books on sale through Amazon.com including one by yours truly.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores

Queria anunciar, ya que tenemos muchos nuevos miembros y ya que he estado actualizando la seccion de vinculos del sitio, que hay librerias recomendadas en la seccion de vinculos. Esas librerias venden libros de genealogia relevantes para nuestra region. Ademas, hay varios libros recomendados sobre genealogia mexicana de venta a traves de Amazon.com, incluso uno escrito pot su servidor.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores

Bookstores

I just wanted to point out, since we have lots of new members and since I have been cleaning up the Links section of the site, that there are recommended bookstores in the Links section. Those stores sell genealogy books relevant to our region. There are also some recommended general Mexican genealogy books on sale through Amazon.com including one by yours truly.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores

Queria anunciar, ya que tenemos muchos nuevos miembros y ya que he estado actualizando la seccion de vinculos del sitio, que hay librerias recomendadas en la seccion de vinculos. Esas librerias venden libros de genealogia relevantes para nuestra region. Ademas, hay varios libros recomendados sobre genealogia mexicana de venta a traves de Amazon.com, incluso uno escrito pot su servidor.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/bookstores

Welcome back Maria Elena

Hi Nena,

Welcome back to Nuestros Ranchos and to Genealogy research. Maybe you can
join me and Irma when we go to the Salt Lake City Library next year. We
both extended our family trees several generations during our last visit.
It's good to have you back.

Maria Cortez
Sacramento, CA

> From: Maria Uhlenburg <1naturelover@att.net>
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I'm back.
> Message-ID: <939624.41513.qm@web180316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi everyone,
> My name is Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg,?I took a couple of years off
> from genealogy but I'm back now.? My research started in Los Altos de
> Jalisco, Mexico?and has now gone back?Spain and Italy.? I wanted to say a
> special hello to my cousins Irma Gomez and Maria Cortez.? Genealogy is an
> addiction in itself once you get started.
>
>

Contacting Patricia Burton

I am trying to contact Patricia Burton. Does anyone know of a way to
contact Patrica Burton other than her group subscription address:
canprin@yahoo.com

if so please email me directly at joseph@nuestrosranchos.org with this
information. It is very important that I contact Patricia Burton right away.

joseph

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http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

National Genographic Project on TV Sunday Night

The U.S. Premiere of National Geographic's "The Human Family Tree" will air on Sunday August 30th at 9 pm ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel.

It will be narrated by Kevin Bacon and will cover their work in collecting DNA from around the world to map migration flows and map genetic lineages around the world.

As part of the premiere they are offering a discount on DNA testing which they offer through Family Tree DNA:

Special Offer: Test your DNA to find out how your ancient ancestor's journey fits into the human family tree. Go to the link below to learn about the Genographic Project and to purchase your Public Participation Kit. Enter discount code GENHUFA09 at checkout to receive 10% off the retail price. For use at the online store only, valid from today through September 15.

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

Border Crossings

That's great! It's amazing how we find some of our ancestors information.
Good luck and I will keep posting on my findings. I, too, usually stick to
just the microfilms for information.

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

busqueda

Buenas tardes.....

Estoy buscando a familiares de:

FRANCISCO PEREZ GONZALEZ y su esposa PETRONILA GONZALEZ MARTIN DEL CAMPO, quienes se casaron en Cuquio,Jalisco el 29 de Septiembre de 1825.

Busco a sus padres y abuelos, principalmente; pero cualquier dato ayuda.

Ella tuvo un hermano que era Fraile Franciscano. Probablemente, todos eran de Cuquio.

Por otro lado, busco datos de padres y abuelos igualmente de:

JUAN PEÑA y su esposa PETRONILA GUITRON, quienes se casaron el TALPA DE ALLENDE, JAL. el 21 de Noviembre de 1853.

Muchas gracias

Suerte es lo que pasa cuando la preparaciòn encuentra a la oportunidad. Sèneca.
Enrique Nungaray LUTCF
Promotorias 20/284/296

Joseph Romo de Vivar

Hola ,Any body know the parents of Joseph Romo de Vivar who was born approx. 1680 in Aguas. married to Maria Jimenez de Hermosillo in Jalos. approx. 1705.

Thanks for your time

Ronnie Reynoso

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Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
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Ayuda....Help.......Ojuelos de Jalisco

Hola a Todos,

Estoy intentando encontrar antepasados de Ojuelos de Jalisco. No encuentro nada de la gente aquí abajo acepto unos casamientos. Aurelio es mi linaje directo. Si hay alguien que me puede ayudar lo agradecería mucho.

Gracias.
Sofía

Hello Everyone,

I am trying to find these ancestors from Ojuelos de Jalisco. I can’t find more info then a couple of marriages of the people here below. Aurelio is my direct line. If someone can please help me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you.
Sofia

José Guadalupe Martínez Dávila : Dec. 18, 1864
married April 20, 1885 to: Gregoria Rodríguez

Maria Andrea Martínez Dávila: Nov. 19, 1868

*Aurelio Martínez Dávila* : Nov. 11, 1870
he was a widower, but I don’t know the woman’s name
era vuido pero no connosco el nombre de la mujer
he had two sons, one was Genaro and the other is unknown
tenia dos hijos, Genaro y el otro no connosco su nombre

Concepción Martínez Dávila: Jan. 25, 1874

Petra Martínez Dávila: ¿?
married Jan. 9, 1894 to Daniel Contreras

Hijos de/ All children to Eugenio Martínez Aguilar and María de la Luz Dávila Macias

Research Digest, Vol 43, Issue 26

Hi patty haro,

I'm new at this, I hope you get this message. This is as far back as I
have researched on my Medina families.

1. Juan Antonio Medina, married Maria del Carmen Solis on 13 January 1740
in Colotlan.

i Joseph Vicente Ferrer Medina Solis, born 04 January 1741 in Huacasco
ii Juana Tivursia Medina Solis, baptized 22 April 1743 in Colotlan
iii Maria Anselma Medina Solis, born 03 May 1745 in Huacasco
iv Teodoro Joseph Medina Solis, baptized 17 April 1747 in Colotlan

Here is another Juan Antonio Medina on my family tree, I don't know how or
if they are related.

2. Juan Antonio Medina, married to Maria Gamboa.

i Francisco Vicente Medina Gamboa, married to Maria Bernarda Marquez
Valenzuela, daughter of Joseph de Marquez and Maria Valenzuela on 19 Feb
1755 in Colotlan, Jal.

My family line continues through Maria Anselma Medina Solis, and
through two daughters of Francisco Vicente Medina Gamboa and Maria Bernarda
Marquez Valensuela.

Thanks,

Rita

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>
> Nadams que este esta casado con Catalina Lopez de Portugal
> Jaime Holcombe
> Mar?a Garc?a de Arrona, his widow, still lived on 2 July 1652, when she was
> the Godmother of a grandchild that was baptized.? She was about 80 years
> old.? Don't have her death record.
> ??? The heirs are listed in the order in which I imagine that they became
> additions to the family:
> ??? 1. Catalina L?pez de Portugal was a namesake of her paternal
> Grandmother, Catalina L?pez, which is why she used that surname, followed by
> "de Portugal."? She wed Captain Esteban de Anda Altamirano before the 1608
> document, where he's listed as Diego's son-in-law.? Esteban was a son of
> Captain Pedro de Anda Altamirano and Beatriz Gonz?lez de Casta?eda.? Have
> five children for the couple, who reached adulthood.? When a son, Captain
> Pedro de Anda Altamirano married Catalina S?enz de Vidaurre y Saavedra on 28
> July 1648, Catalina was deceased.? Esteban lived still in 1652.
>
>
> A few tips.? One of Juan's first offspring was a Priest, licenciado Alejo
> Vidaurre aka Vidaurri.? He performed the marriage, on 28 July 1648, of his
> sister, Catalina, to Captain Pedro de Anda Altamirano.? The groom's parents
> were Esteban de Anda Altamirano and Catalina L?pez de Portugal.? The mother
> was deceased.? A child of the wedded couple, Luis, was baptized on 7
> September 1653 and the "padrinos" were "Alejo Vidaurri y Luisa de Saavedra,
> su madre."
>
> SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

ayuda Jalisco Cabrera O'Reilly, Pulido, Reyes, Moreno

Hola estoy buscando a mis ancestro de Jalisco los aqui les mando las líneas de los que tengo al final, Sergio Raynal, mando lo que tengo que te sirve ati también:

yo tengo que Francisco O'reilly se casa con Teresa Silva Alvarez el 8 agosto de 1865 en Nuestra señora del Pilar, Jalisco (también se casa con joaquina) Teresa se bautiza el 3 agosto de 1852 en Sagrario metropolitano guadalajara jalisco hija de Joaquin Silva e Ygnacia Alvarez Tostado.

Francisco O'reilly es hijo de Francisco O'Reilly y Josefa Casimira Negrete Gonzalez , Josefa hija de Jose Domingo Lazaro Negrete Henriquez (21 dec 1831) y de Maria Hermina Gonzalez

Jose Domingo hijo de Jose Miguel Negrete y Manuela Enriquez y Hermina Gonzalez hija de Jose maria Gonzalez y de Ana Ygnacia Gonzalez.

Manuel O'Reilly se casó (20 de ago 1920) +Maclovia Gutierrez Moreno (nace 4 jan 1888) hija de Luis Gutierrez Moreno ( mi tio bisabuelo) y maclovia Barragan casados el 19 ar 1882

Luis hijo de Jerónimo Gutierrez-Moreno y Encarnacion Cbrera (Jeróniomo hijo de Tiburcio Susano Gutierrez y de Maria Ncolasa Moreno) de ahí hasta ahi me quedé snif, snif

y Encarnación Cabrera hija de Jose maria Emigdio Cabrera y de Maria Reyes ( Emigdio se bautiza el 29 nov 1788 Guadalajara) Joseph Gregorio Cabrera (24 nov 1759) y Mara Salome Pulido (22 nov 1752) San jose de Analco..Gregorio hijo de Juana Maria Cabrera y Maria Salome Pulido hija de Nicolas Maria Pulido y de Maria Nicolasa?? Nicolas maria hijo de Pe dro Pulido y de Angela Rodriguez (Nicolas:12 sep 1728) Angela hija de Juan Rodriguez

Saludos Leticia Reynoso

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Military Archives Response

Welester,

I received my answer today from http://www.sedena.gob.mx regarding my grandfather and his relatives who fought in the Revolucion:

They said: "Se le informa que no se localizaron documentos que contengan la informacion que solicita".

Attached was a .jpg photo of a letter from the Secretaria del la Defensa Nacional signed by El Subdirector General de Archivo e Historia, General Brigadier D. E. M. Homero Mendoza Ruiz.

The letter says: "Por acuerdo del C. General Secretario de La Defensa Nacional y en relacion con su correo electronic de fecha 19 del actual, me es grato saludarle y a la vez informarle a usted que despues de haber realizado una busqueda en los Archivos de esta Direccion, no se localizo informacion relacionada con Francisco Olague Tinajero, Ignacio Olague Tinajero y Jose Garcia Davila, por los que en caso de contar con mayores datos o documentos sobre las personas que solicita, agradecer se proporcionen a esta Dependencia, con la finalidad de realizar una nueva busqueda y estar en posibilidades de atender su requerimiento.

"Aprovecho la occasion para reiterarle a usted, las seguridades de mi atenta y distinquida consideracion".

He lost me after listing the names of my relatives. Can you translate the last part starting with "por los en caso--". please? I think they are asking for more info, but I gave them all I had, which was their names, their birthdates, where they came from, and the year the left Mexico for the US.

Thanks,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Significance of Presb

--- bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:
Good Evening All, I've never seen a priest named as padrino before, but could it be because I'm new to this? Have others come across this? A priest wouldn't be expected to personally raise a female child if something were to happen to the parents. Culturally, the padrino's obligation isn't limited to spriruality alone, is it? It's not just idle curiousity, as the entry I refer to is that of my maternal grandmother, Agustina Santelices, who along with her younger sister, Maria Dolores, were later orphaned. I'd appreciate opinions/experience on this subject from all. Thank you for your help. Alice B Blake

Another child for Thomas de Villalpando and Maria de Vargas

In going through the Informacion Matrimonial for Aguascalientes, 1711, I found another child for Thomas de Villalpando and Maria de Vargas. He is Nicolas de Alexos Villalpando, from Asientos, age 33 (thus born about 1678). He may have been the first child born to Thomas and Maria; there is no baptismal record for him. His bride-to-be is Francisca de Zalas, daughter for Juan de la Rocha and Maria de Zalas; she is from Sombrerete.

I did not find a marriage for them in either Aguascalientes or Asientos. However, there is a Maria Ysavel de Villapando, daughter of Nicolas Villalpando and Francisca de Salas, who married Simon Vasquez, in Santa Maria de los Lagos, 28 Nov 1746. I have not yet looked at this film (0221514). I did not find a record for her birth, or that of any other children for Nicolas and Francisca.

George Fulton

To Carlos: Re Jaime Holcombe's book

Carlos,

I just heard from Jaime's son. He says he is not aware that his father left any copies of his manuscript with anyone, and he is waiting to hear from you directly. He says his father, during his illness and hospitalization, never mentioned turning over any copies of his manuscript to anyone for publishing.

Young Jaime said the family has the original manuscript plus pictures to go into it, and that they are close to completing the project, so they will not give permission to anyone outside the family to publish anything written by Jaime Holcombe Isunza.

Young Jaime said what is left to be done is to proofread their corrected Word document (taken from a hand-typed original done on typewriter by a cousin in Zacatecas) and compare it to the original book his father left. He said the family has already lined up and paid a designer. Jaime's brother Jorge and the rest of the family are also anxious to see Jaime's wishes come to a reality. We may see something soon, God willing.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Interpretations of Aguascalientes Baptisms 1726-1752

I completed the transcriptions of Aguascalientes christening records
up to 1752. These records (1726-1752) were from la hacienda de
Santiago de Guadalupe, feligresía de la Villa de Aguascalientes. After
that, the films continue with records from San Miguel de los Albas.
After doing a few of these I found no family connections in San
Miguel, so I have abandoned those transcriptions and do not plan to
continue them. The transcriptions are complete as far the Santiago
group goes.

I have uploaded the entire file 1726-1752, with some minor
corrections. I don't know if I uploaded it right or not, as I can't
find it yet. My THANKS to Angelina Markle for enhancing the format of
the earlier submissions. If you want to do the same with the master
file, it would be appreciated.

I don't seem to be able to find the natural continuation of these
transcriptions. The next group for Santiago starts in 1662 after a
10-year gap. Maybe they're under Sagrario or maybe they don't exist.
Still looking. Meanwhile, I'm processing some less complete selected
transcriptions done by my father-in-law. Eventually, I'll resume some
more transcriptions of my own and post them as before.

I also have a question. My entire database, using "The Master
Genealogist" program, contains to date about 19000 persons and more
than 71000 detailed source citations. The program is highly
customized, so the only way to see everything is with The Master
Genealogist. However, it makes a fairly good export to PAF via GEDCOM.
The PAF file that results is about 28 Megabytes with details for
living persons suppressed. I hesitate to share it because it contains,
as everybody's database does, some un-proven junk. I would appreciate
any feedback about whether to upload it.

One other item. Thank you George Fulton for your Aguascalientes
Matrimonial Information Extractions 1600's. I expect to find
these useful.

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Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com