Does anyone have the descendants of Pedro Huizar and Magdalena Navarrete
from VAlparaiso Zacatecas or tell me were to search please!?!?!??!?! I
think my gg grandfather could descend from them!! And I cant find any info
from.him, his name is Marto Huizar born about 1860 and 1880 so I think
There would be like 5-6 generations between your pedro huizar and my marto
huizar and have to be child of only men!!!
El jun 10, 2014 5:08 PM,
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: zacatecano020@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Maderas
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Now I am more stunned that I just realized that Ed Serros, one of the
members of this website has already found my GGGGG Grandfather Blas Madera
and I copied the part in what he wrote on one of my past posts:
"I too have family from the areas you describe. For what it is worth, I
have repeatedly found the Madera family not only in Huejuquilla el Alto but
in the nearby town of Mezquitic, Jalisco. The marriages and baptisms of the
Maderas in Mezquitic date back to at least 1686 (Mormon film numbers
1164940 and 1164952). I suspect this is the same family since these towns
were all frontier land back then. The elite (well-to-do mestizos, criollos,
and the rare peninsular) all intermarried; distance was not a major issue
but "class" was. It was preferable to marry a non-NAI. The ultimate prize
for a criollo family was to marry a peninsular but it was OK to marry
another criollo or well-to-do mestizo (re-labeled "espanol"), near as I can
figure from my review of centuries of records in the local area and books
that I have read. Bottom line: I think we are talking about the same Madera
family, with branches thereof. Also by 1686, at least one of the Madera
family members, Blas Madera, so
n of Joseph Madera and Josepha Basquez, was labeled as mestizo. He married
into the espanol Avila family: wife Maria Theresa Avila, daughter of Miguel
de Avila and Gertrudis de Robles, both "espanoles." The Robles and Madera
family continued to intermarry for at least a century or two."
Thank you Ed Serros! That is the Blas Madera who is my GGGGG Grandfather
and to confirm it the wife is Maria Theresa Avila.
So Blas Madera is the son of Joseph Madera and Josepha Basquez? That gives
me another generation to make them my GGGGGG Grandparents.
I am also curious about Pedro Huizar and Maria Magdalena Navarette who are
from Valparaiso and the parents of my GGGG Grandmother Maria Leocadia De
Huizar.
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 19:53:15 -0700
From: Daniel Alejandro M?ndez de Torres y Camino
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fabiana Diaz de Tiscareno
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Ronnie,
This is my line. Independently, as historians or researchers we must prefer
primary sources, as in documents that were made in the moment of the event.
Thus, a marriage record is primary due to the fact that the marriage is
occurring before the priest. A dispensa would be considered secondary,
though it can be primary if a witness actually knew the ancestors and had
information pertaining to the ancestry of an individual. Could you pass the
link where I can study this dispensa? I am interested. I have already found
numerous dispensas with major errors, others with only some mistakes; for
the most part they are very reliable.
I descend from Nicolas Diaz de Tiscareno in the following manner, just to
mention a couple of generations:
