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Fw: [ranchos] More Spanish Food History

My apologies again folks, the URL below should be http://www.ems.kcl.ac.uk/content/pub/b015.html
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: [ranchos] More Spanish Food History

This is off-topic, I know, but I am on a roll about food history now.
 
Take a look at the following:   http://www.ems.kdl.ac.uk/content/pub/b015.html
 
Scroll down to the seventh paragraph, and you will see a mention of "gato
por liebre".  Some time ago, we had a discussion in this group about the
meaning of that phrase, and this website gives the history of that
saying. 
 
Apparently, some Spaniards were not averse to roasting cats and eating
them!  They did caution that you must not eat the head (or its brains)
since that could lead to madness.  The article goes on to state that
especially with the onset of Mad Cow Disease, people should not eat
brains.  I know that my husband used to love to eat "huevos con

More Spanish Food History

This is off-topic, I know, but I am on a roll about food history now.
 
Take a look at the following:   http://www.ems.kdl.ac.uk/content/pub/b015.html
 
Scroll down to the seventh paragraph, and you will see a mention of "gato
por liebre".  Some time ago, we had a discussion in this group about the
meaning of that phrase, and this website gives the history of that
saying. 
 
Apparently, some Spaniards were not averse to roasting cats and eating
them!  They did caution that you must not eat the head (or its brains)
since that could lead to madness.  The article goes on to state that
especially with the onset of Mad Cow Disease, people should not eat
brains.  I know that my husband used to love to eat "huevos con cesos"
amongst other gross things he has been known to eat (he is a real
gourmand).  The article states that perhaps Don Quixote's madness stemmed
from his habit of having a breakfast of "huevos con cesos" on Saturdays, and
that Cervantes (my husband is a

Fw: [ranchos] Capirotada in 17th Century Spain

Sorry, folks, the correct link is:  http://wwwcliffordawright.com/history/christmas.html
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:36 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Capirotada in 17th Century Spain

Hello, Group,
 
I sent Joseph a recipe for capirotada from New Mexico that I found
online.  I also sent him my mother's recipe for capirotada.  (Hope he
tries them out and lets us know how he did with them).
 
I also sent Joseph a paragraph from a website on food history that
describes a Christmas feast given by King Phillip III in early 17th Century
Spain.  At each course they served many, many dishes, amongst them
CAPIROTADA and several kinds of EMPANADAS.  Joseph asked me to send you the
link to that website:
 
 
Scroll down to the fourth paragraph to read about King Phillip's
unbelievable pig-out of a fiesta!
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

Capirotada in 17th Century Spain

Hello, Group,

 

I sent Joseph a recipe for capirotada from New Mexico that I found
online.  I also sent him my mother's recipe for capirotada.  (Hope he
tries them out and lets us know how he did with them).

 

I also sent Joseph a paragraph from a website on food history that
describes a Christmas feast given by King Phillip III in early 17th Century
Spain.  At each course they served many, many dishes, amongst them
CAPIROTADA and several kinds of EMPANADAS.  Joseph asked me to send you the
link to that website:

 


 

Scroll down to the fourth paragraph to read about King Phillip's
unbelievable pig-out of a fiesta!

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---

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If you have multiple memberships under different email addresses I need
to know. It would be better to pick the best one so I can delete the
other (that is unless you have a real good reason for having both like
you want to have access remotely to ranchos via that other address)



If you have more than two and will be keeping them then put that second
email address on your folder: go to "Files" of either Ranchos1 or
Ranchos2 or Link1 and click on "Edit" for your folder and then add the
second email address.



Now here is a biggie for me: Do you have a different email address on
your folder from the address under which you are subscribed? If so
please go to your folder and change that email address to reflect your
subscription address.



Another Biggie: a few folders are not following the "Standard" format.
Can the following owners go in and edit their folders to by putting
their names next

mtDNA and other DNA

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" wrote:
>
> Victor.......is this the complete message? It appears that you left off in
> the middle of a sentence......Thanks! Josie
>
> _____
>

Josie, it looks like the message got truncated.  Below is a copy of that same message.

----------------------->

That's a keen observation and a good question about the number of differences in our mtDNA in relation to the CRS reference.

Let's start by saying that the CRS (Cambridge Reference Sequence) is just an arbitrary reference selected by some team of geneticist that were among the first to study the genetic sequences of mitochondrial DNA.  They decided to use the sequence of one of their subjects as a comparison reference, maybe one of their own samples, who knows?.  The selected mtDNA belongs to haplogroup H, the most prevalent haplogroup in Europe.  Therefore many European persons who get tested have few differences if any with the CRS reference.

Next, what the commercial

mtDNA and other DNA

Victor.......is this the complete message?  It appears
that you left off in the middle of a sentence......Thanks!   
Josie



From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
v.h.villarreal
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:45
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: mtDNA
and other DNA

Josie,

That's a keen observation and a good question about the
number of differences in our mtDNA in relation to the CRS
reference.

Let's start by saying that the CRS (Cambridge Reference
Sequence) is just an arbitrary reference selected by some team of geneticist
that were among the first to study the genetic sequences of mitochondrial
DNA.  They decided to use the sequence of one of their subjects as a
comparison reference, maybe one of their own samples, who knows?.  The
selected mtDNA belongs to haplogroup H, the most prevalent haplogroup in
Europe.  Therefore many European persons who get tested have few
differences if any with the CRS reference.

N

"Ax" Day January 31, 2006: 77 of 109

Joseph:
 
On Dec 1 I am going to Mexico City and then on to Guanajuato.  A "cousin" in Guanajuato has assured me that he has all kinds of documents and photographs for me.  I have already made some progress but it only takes me to San Luis Potosi.  Among other places he mentioned that he was going to Aguascalientes to gather more documents for me.  I will return on Dec 8 and at that time may have something to contribute. 
 
Mary

Joseph Puentes wrote:


I just looked at the group member genealogies. Here is the official
count: we have 109 members but only 77 genealogies. that means that
there are 32 members that have not turned in your representative tree
connecting you to our group study area. I know a good ten of you
possibly 15 have talked to me and bought yourself some time before the
official "Ax" date of January 31, 2006

Anyway if you are one of the 10-15 people that talked to me asking for
more time beyond the January 31, 2006 deadline then in about a month or
so please