Well I guess it is our turn for a formal introduction. Rich and I 
live in Rocklin, California which is about 35 miles NE of 
Sacramento.   Rich retired in 1999 after 35 years with HBFuller and I 
retired in 2001 after 10 years with Herman Miller.  We now spend our 
spare time stomping through cemeteries.  In the last 3 years, we have 
found my ancestors from my mother's side, in Loudoun, VA, Somerset, 
PA, Kalamazoo, MI, Beatrice, NE and Wickenburg, AZ.  One of these 
days we will get down to Jalisco, and Zacatecas, Mex.

Rich and I started on his genealogy in the mid 70's.  Fortunately we 
were able to start while his parents were still alive.  The 
information received then gave us a good basis to start with.   At 
that time everything was done by hand so listing all those siblings 
of his parents took awhile.  Both his parents had at least 12 
brothers and sisters.  Currently he still has two aunts, one from 
each of his parents still living within 100 miles of where we live

Hello, I am new this group.  Thanks for letting me join.  I noticed 
that everyone was giving intros, so I thought I would add mine to the 
list....  I recognize some of the different people in this group 
through other message boards or email... So this may be a repeat for 
some of you...

My name is Angie Godina.  I have been working on my family tree since 
1998. But I didn't start using the LDS website and films until 2001 
so that is when I really started working on researching my 
genealogy/ancestors.  I have been able to find most of my paternal 
and maternal lines up to the early 1700's.  They have generally 
stayed in the same areas these last 300 years.  I am mainly 
researching my eight grandparents surnames/families they include:

Cardenas, Carreon (or Carrion), Gaeta, Godina, Huerta, Huizar (or 
Guizar), Luna, Miramontes, Perez, Raigosa (or Raygoza)

I am at some dead ends so I started researching their extended 
ancestors which include:

Andarsa, Avila, Ayala, Campos

just a quick note before I run off to work.

a cousin of mine who used to work for the FBI was concerned about
Identity theft. Now I've gone ahead and removed all my PDF files from
the group and I'll repost them with with new ones that go from my
deceased grandparents back just so as we get more people in the group
I can say honestly to concerned relatives that i am not revealing any
"mothers maiden names" for any living relatives.

Something to think about and you all might consider this with regards
to info you've already posted and will in the future. 

joseph

signature mode: on

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get ya."

signature mode: off

Okay the first step is to have the Address to the Family Search website:



http://www.familysearch.org



once there we're going to have a look around and see there is a gold mine
of Genealogical information on the site. But today we're going to get specific
in what we're trying to do and that is find info on Jamay, Jalisco and where
"my local Family History Center is."



First of all I don't know where you live so I'll just show you how to use
the site so you can find the closest one.



After you bring: http://www.familysearch.org  up go to the right side of
the page and click on "Library."  Then click on "Family History Centers."
and fill in the info and hopefully there will be one close to you. Most larger
communities have them as there are several many hundreds or even thousands
around the states.



okay now back to how to find the Jamay info. Okay you can get back to the
home page and then click on "Library" again then click on "Family History
Library Catalog."  From there on this

go to this link and find the state maps section and you'll pull up some
very nice maps showing the boundaries between the Estados.

http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/

joseph

George Gause sent this URL he is the Head Librarian Researcher from the
Pan American Library in Texas (Arthuro Romero might live close by. I'm
unsure if its in El Paso or another part of Texas. If you ever go there
Arthuro I need to ask a favor of you. I need a couple of pages out of
their extensive library of Mexico Phone books. . .let me know)

kitty_cortez wrote:

Yesterday, my sister (who lives in Ogden, UT) just took an inventory,
of all the films for Jalisco, Huejucar, Colotlan, and Zacatecas,
Momax areas. I have since highlighted them in green and sent them to
the file database as a word.doc. These films are permanently shelved
in SLC.

Oops I spoke to quickly and saw the file. I opened it and am a little
unsure of what the green means again. Doe it mean that only the Green
ones are on permanent file in downtown SLC and that the others are
available with a few days (or was it hours) notice from another place in
Salt Lake?

did I get the right understanding or ???

thanks,

Joseph

http://www.smgf.org



wow the more I look at this the more I'm intrigued. . .we could eventually
submit our DNA and possibly confirm beyond the shadow of a doubt some of
the things we're finding:



from the FAQ's section:

"How is this research going to benefit me in my genealogical
research?

Once enough data will be collected, analyzed and correlated,
findings from this research will be made available for genealogical research.
Individuals interested in learning more about their family history will need
to submit an inquiry and a DNA sample in the mail, regardless of their previous
participation in the study (the DNA sample submitted for the database will
NOT be used to answer personal questions). This new sample will be compared
with the data from the database in an attempt to answer the question posed.
Information about how, where and when these services will become available
will be posted on this website. Research

Wow (2) I'm totally amazed at how much we are coming together as a
group. I feel like the info we're contributing is important and not the
kind of stuff you find on other groups. thanks everyone for staying
focused. At the same time there's nothing that says you can't
occasionally post an account or a picture or two of a family activity.
Afterall we all might be related*** and genealogy is about us as a family.

***http://www.smgf.org/index.jsp (I might be giving them a sample of my
DNA because this research group is coming to Chapel Hill, NC in a couple
of weeks)

kitty_cortez wrote:

Joseph,
You asked about Mrs. Shirmacher, I just came across her name in some
of my notes. She has helped us transcribed some of our documents.
We have met her a couple of times and my sister has used her services
a number of times. We will probably see her this coming Easter week,
since Rich and I plan on visiting FHL SLC the 28th, 29th and 30th of
April. We will be in So. Utah the

Wow Patricia what a great message. I don't know what is the problem with
us new researchers we can't see the forest with all these trees around.
Why I've been ignoring the 1930 census escapes me. For some reason I've
just completely overlooked this resource---maybe because I got hung up
on 1930 not being all that old. But for my Current main goal of finding
the Side Branches*** to my family the 1930 Census is exactly what I
need. And your listing of all the good info included in it makes my
mouth water. . .thanks, I'm ordering it next chance I get.

thanks,

Joseph

***I've kind of been on a leave of abscence for the last 3 months in
looking backward for the parents of my oldest ancestors. I've come to
the conclusion that all these relatives that I'm searching for in the
1700's have no current memories in the minds of the people that are
alive right now, but there are plenty of relatives that I don't know
about that ARE alive now that have a wealth of information that I

Dear Tammy,
     I know what you mean by no cooperation from the mother-in-law.  
I had that problem myself but just worked around her.  My father-law 
gave me the best information that he could and I used it when I 
looked at the official records. 
     As for my husband, he has no patience to do the actual work but 
he will pay for any field trips that we take.  Last year, amoung 
other places, we drove up to Yahualica, Jalisco.  It was a most 
beautiful place.  I took some pictures and it was this trip that 
convinced us to get a video camera for future trips. 
     As for the Godinez name, I understand that it is not common.  I 
go back very far with my records and even have some of the family 
baptisms in Jamay.  However that is a few hundred years back.
For now, I think the best thing for you and most beginning 
researchers is to get what they can from other family members and 
papers kept at home and then try to get the 1930 Census for their 
area.
    The 1930 Census will help