go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/

up in the top right click on "Register"

fill out the form (FREE) carefully writting down whatever ID and
password you choose (This part is critical!!!)

put the paper you wrote down your ID and Password in a safe place (don't
do like me and have to go hunting for those little scattered pieces of
paper I have with various and sundry passwords and id's)

After you've done this you'll have a Free Yahoo email address and account.

For ID I sometimes use my first name and zip code you decide whatever if
easy for you to remember.

After you do this click "Submit this form" and you should be signed up
for full access.

NOTE: if you don't want to be getting advertising email from Yahoo
uncheck any boxes at the bottom before submitting the form.

I think this is all if I've forgotten let me know and we'll go over it a
little deeper.

joseph

I just joined this group and need to know how to get my ID and password registered so I may view the messages, etc.



Thanks!



Josie Trevino-Trevino

Hola,

Yo me llamo Joseph Puentes. . .this group is for the serious
genealogical study of the Ranchos of Jalisco and Zacatecas. I understand
that we might all be at different levels of experience, but I hope we
all strive to be better in our knowledge and skills at using the
resources available to us in 2003 for the study of our Mexican Roots. I
said all that only to say that i hope that if any of you are doing
Genealogy by only trying to find others that have done the work and
incorporate it into your genealogy. . .well I hope you all take it a
step further and start doing some of your own research. Nothing wrong
with finding others who have done a lot of work and then somehow
crossing their path or tieing in but at the same time take that info and
work it a little more. There are always things that need to be
researched. I wish I had a team of 20 people that I could direct in the
study of my personal genealogy. I believe I could keep them busy if
money was no object

I have heard of the Rancho Los Reales, but I don't know where it is 
exactly.  I don't know if I have family from there.  There is a lot 
of Miramontes and Magallanes in the area of Zacatecas near Jalisco.  
The information I have on my Miramontes family starts about 1860 and 
earlier.  So I won't have information for you unless you have an 
individual born before 1860.  Does you father-in-law know the names 
of his grandparents?  Well I don't know how old your father-in-law 
is, but more than likely that would be information that I can find in 
my family if we were related.

I don't have Magallanes in my family, but I have done some 
researching on that name as well, for something else.  Anyway, if you 
find out the names of Victoria's parents, let me know and I could 
look those up as well in my records.

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Tammy Miramontes  wrote:
> 
> Angie, 
> IN reading the list of names that you have searched for, I saw the 
name MIRAMONTES.

Yes time will tell who his parents were.



I'm putting the pages to that book by Dr. Platt in the files section.



Also about the Census record I got it off the Colotlan/SantaMaria de Los
Angeles area Census. I put the number of the film at the top of each page.
Here is all that comes up on that film when entered into the Film/Fiche search
window:

Title

Padrones, 1639-1875

Authors

Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagarda Mitra en Guadalajara.

Census records from parishes within the Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco,
Mexico.

Subjects

Mexico, Jalisco - Census

Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Census

Format

Manuscript (On Film)

Language

Spanish

Publication

Salt Lake City : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical

48 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Film Notes

Note - Location [Film]

Padrones no hay fechas -  FHL INTL Film [ 168803 ]

I looked over your Romero file, but I really can't tell either way if 
the couple is the same or not.  Guess we won't really know until you 
find out the names of your Manuel Romero's parents.

Where did you find the Suaz de los Marques census?  Did you order 
it?  I would like to try and get more information on the couple that 
were related to me.  So any details about the document you have would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> great thanks for the files and you had me on the edge of my chair a 
> couple of time with your Juan Manuel Romero marrying Ana Maria 
Casas. I 
> have a Manuel Romero marrying a Mariana de Casas but the time frame 
> looks to be later than your couple. My Manuel grandparent had at 
least 
> two children: Tomas and Simon Romero. there is a chance we're 
related. 
> I'm putting my Romero file back into the files section right away 
so you 
> can see who I'm talking about.

fabulous. Great Idea. Is there anyway of setting it up so that the Towns
can be separated. but in the same format you created. great idea. If
someone has the time here are the Batches for Santa Maria de Los
Angeles/Colotlan and Huejucar and Tepechitlan and Tepetongo.

Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco. Bautismo Batch Numbers: 1785-1875

Batch Number            Year Range            Film Number

C611041                    1785-1825            1158273
C611042                    1825-1845            1158274
C611043                    1845-1863            1158275
C611044                    1863-1875            1158276

C611045                    1856-1865            1158280  Hijo's Naturales

=========================

Tepechitlan, Zacatecas. Bautismo y Matrimonio Batch Numbers: 1736-1885
missing batches
Bautismos:

Batch Number                Year Range                Film Number
C600811                        1736-1782                0444025

K600812

In one of Joseph's notes he talked about creating a list of IGI 
batches for the ranchos you are researching.  With this purpose in 
mind, I created a database for this group.  Just click on the 
Database link to the left to find it. I added two records to it as a 
sample you can follow.  I hope you find this useful.

Maria Cortez

Angie,

IN reading the list of names that you have searched for, I saw the name MIRAMONTES.  That is my last name now.  My father-in-law was from Zacatecas.  His parents names were Aurelino & Victoria (magallanes) Miramontes.  I believe the ranch they are from is named Los Reales. 

Just wondering if there is any connection here.

Tammy

 aajay1073 wrote:

Hello, I am new this group.  Thanks for letting me join.  I noticed
that everyone was giving intros, so I thought I would add mine to the
list....  I recognize some of the different people in this group
through other message boards or email... So this may be a repeat for
some of you...

My name is Angie Godina.  I have been working on my family tree since
1998. But I didn't start using the LDS website and films until 2001
so that is when I really started working on researching my
genealogy/ancestors.  I have been able to find most of my paternal
and maternal lines up to the early 1700's.  They have generally
stayed in the

great thanks for the files and you had me on the edge of my chair a
couple of time with your Juan Manuel Romero marrying Ana Maria Casas. I
have a Manuel Romero marrying a Mariana de Casas but the time frame
looks to be later than your couple. My Manuel grandparent had at least
two children: Tomas and Simon Romero. there is a chance we're related.
I'm putting my Romero file back into the files section right away so you
can see who I'm talking about.

aajay1073 wrote:

I saw my Marques Family in the Census of Sauz de los Marquez that is
posted in the files section. It is on page one, first column, about
half way down. Dn. Felix Marquez (70), Da. Alvina Romero (65), and
Torivio Marquez (34). It's really exicting to see it. Thanks for
posting that resource. But now I have a question for Joseph
Puentes. Is this the actual census or just the census index pages?

I think this is the full census but I'm so new to this newly found
record and to genealogy in general that I