My great-grandparents were:
Teodoro Rosales (dob: ? place of birth ? ) and Tomasita Villegas 
(dob: ? Place of birth ? ) 

One of their children was: 
1) Porfiria Rosales (my grandmother), dob: 9-16-1905 place of birth 
Zacatecas, died 6-26-1986 in Corpus Christi,Tx. buried in Gregory,Tx. 
Porfiria married Rosendo Montes (dob: 3-1-1885 Place of 
birth:possibly Brownsville,Tx. Died 4-26-1966 in Corpus Christi,Tx 
buried in Gregory Tx. Son of Desiderio Montes d.o.b.? d.o.d.? 
marriage date? place of birth ? and Francisca ? d.o.b.? d.o.d.? place 
of birth ?

I have interviewed my mother and aunts all they remember was they 
called Tomasita "Ama Tomasita". They aren't even sure if Rosendo was 
born in Brownsville or in Mx. But they do know he was raised in 
Brownsville,Tx. Without someone reconnizing these names I feel thats 
as far as I can go on my mothers side of the family, on both her 
father and mothers side


Yes I use the LDS Family 
Search page for my research? 
As for FHC's? no I

So far I love this group. It seems in time as we all get things sorted
out and we see who everyone is looking for we will kind of keep an eye
out for the various relatives we're looking for. If nothing else its a
start.

But at this time the 20 megabytes we're allowed in the files section is
at 13 megabytes used. that means we'll be out of room in that area soon.

I know I can trim some of the stuff in there but that won't amount to much.

I was thinking that some of that stuff could be put on some of these
free websites that you can get. Then we could just put a link to the
various peoples genealogy lines. Maybe if you all have unused website
space you could put your personal genealogy info on it and then we can
just link to that section. . .

. . .I don't know

thats why I'm writing. Do any of you all have any ideas. Its just that
I'm thinking that maybe we might get another 5, 10 or even 20 more
people to join and once everybody puts there info in we'll be way over
t

Every serious hispanic genealogy researcher needs to own a copy of this book.
. .hey what do I know there very well could be and probably are better books
out there, but this book it pretty dog gone good. . .I mean GOOD!



it goes into a lot of details about baptism marriage death and other documents
we are using. It gives great key words and phrases found in them and helps
to abstract the information from them.



I've put the Matrimonio Dispensas section in the files section and also the
Table of Contents to the book.



joseph



ps: to answer you directly sometimes they are in the Matrimonio Informacion
films or you might have to get films from the Diocese. . .Guadalajara.



got more questions please ask. . .hey I probably won't know the answer but
that will provide the motivation to look for the answer.





aajay1073 wrote:

Joseph,

What is a Matrimonio Dispensas and where can I look one up at?  I 
found a couple's marriage information and within it, it was indicated 
that they were

From: Joseph Puentes 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: LosRanchos 
Subject: [ranchos] Hi Evie---?Villegas Connection???
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 02:15:22 -0500

Hi Joseph, Juan Jose Leanos was married to Tomasa Amaya. I looked at
Josefa Leanos' marriage certificate once again. Sorry that I haven't
located Juan's marriage certificate yet. Although Guillermo Villegas who
married Josefa Leanos was born in Colotlan, his marriage took place in
Tabasco, Zacatecas.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Roberta
[mailto:roberta@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:01
PM
To: ranchos

Joseph,

What is a Matrimonio Dispensas and where can I look one up at?  I 
found a couple's marriage information and within it, it was indicated 
that they were blood relations.  Where could I look up a Matrimonio 
Dispensas for this couple?

Thanks,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> Today I found the parents of my GGG grandparents: Felipe Santa 
Maria y 
> Benita Miranda in Tepetongo, Zacatecas.
> 
> Felipe's parents were: Jose Salome Santa Maria y Maria Francisca 
Ortiz
> 
> Benita's parents were: Gabriel de Miranda y Maria Nicolasa Miranda
> 
> Well this last couple brings up a good point: Matrimonio Dispensas
> 
> If this couple were possibly related and needed special permission 
to 
> get married it is possible for up to 4 generations of their 
genealogy to 
> be waiting in a "Matrimonio Dispensa" So since this is in the late 
> 1700's when this couple got married its possible with one record to 
> maybe get shotputted right back into

What surnames is Steve Hernandez researched/researching???  Yes, any
knowledge he can provide, I'm all ears!!!!!

Carol

Joseph Puentes wrote:

 

Let me suggest that he either join outright or just possibly be willing
to occasionally send us a lesson via email. I understand he must be tremendously
busy so joining might not be appealing to him but if we could just catch
a bit of knowledge and information here and there and I'm sure we'll all
see benefit. Thanks Roberta,

joseph

Roberta wrote:

Joseph
- I'll email Steven Hernandez and invite him to joinour
group.  He has explained a couple of my gggrandmother/father'smarriage
certificates (with dispensas) (it seems as though all of my relatives wereeither
2nd 3rd or 4th cousins when they married). I'll
let you know what he says - apparently Steven has a lot of geneologyinformation
in the Los Altos area of Jalisco.Roberta

-----Original
Message-----

From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003
10:28 AM

To: LosRancho

Joseph, that is great that you found this record, what a find....I think
some answers for me also lie in Tepetongo in the mid 1700's.  I'm
going to study my research log and probably order some films from that
area.  I found that Vital baptized a child in Tepetongo but also in
SM and Cololtan.  It would be interesting to find out why they moved
around so much back in those days, possibly their occupation, way of life.
I'm going to check through all those batch numbers that you sent me for
these films first for Tepetongo.

Carol

Joseph Puentes wrote:

 

Today I found the parents of my GGG grandparents: Felipe Santa
Maria y

Benita Miranda in Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

Felipe's parents were: Jose Salome Santa Maria y Maria Francisca
Ortiz

Benita's parents were: Gabriel de Miranda y Maria Nicolasa Miranda

Well this last couple brings up a good point: Matrimonio Dispensas

If this couple were possibly related and needed special permission
to

get married it is possible for up to 4 generations

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Turner
[mailto:cdian@...]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:19
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
CapitanLazaroMartinDelCampo_Gif File/INFO Request

What
surnames is Steve Hernandez researched/researching???  Yes, any knowledge
he can provide, I'm all ears!!!!!

Carol

Joseph Puentes wrote:

Let me suggest that he either join outright or
just possibly be willing to occasionally send us a lesson via email. I
understand he must be tremendously busy so joining might not be appealing to
him but if we could just catch a bit of knowledge and information here and
there and I'm sure we'll all see benefit. Thanks Roberta,

joseph

Roberta wrote:

Joseph - I'll email Steven
Hernandez and invite him to joinour group.  He has explained a couple of my
gggrandmother/father

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:59
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
CapitanLazaroMartinDelCampo_Gif File/INFO Request

Let
me suggest that he either join outright or just possibly be willing to
occasionally send us a lesson via email. I understand he must be tremendously
busy so joining might not be appealing to him but if we could just catch a bit
of knowledge and information here and there and I'm sure we'll all see
benefit. Thanks Roberta,

joseph

Roberta wrote:

Joseph - I'll email Steven Hernandez and invite him to
join

our group.  He has explained a couple of my
gggrandmother/father's

marriage certificates (with dispensas) (it seems as though all
of my relatives were

either 2nd 3rd or 4th cousins when they married). 

I'll let you know what he says -