Joseph, Nadine and I just had a conversation about boundary changes 
recently.  Yes, it is very likely that Colotlan was in the Zacatecas 
diocese in earlier times.  As for whether or not the records are now 
stored in the Guadalajara archdiocese.  I'll have to ask Nadine to 
see if she knows.  Her line is busy right now...
As for the 2nd question, I think I can answer that one. I have looked 
at a few of those films and the reason some years appear to be 
duplicated is that the original books had lose pages and many of them 
are out of order.  They appear to have been microfilmed exactly as 
they were found.  I think you'll find that for example Jan-Feb 1685 
will be in one film, March-June in another, etc. but not duplicated.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> Wow she sounds like a wonderfully experienced in Genealogy 
person. . .
> 
> Can you ask her some questions for me?
> 
> 1) Colotlan's records keep saying from the diocese of

Luz has helped me for free on several occasions, going so far as to tell me
what cities my clan could be found in a particular generation and offering
historical information about Jalisco and Zacatecas. She does charge for
specific family research, however, and I have not yet used her services for
this purpose. A couple of years ago she was excited to message with me
for free, offering lots of advice, but my Spanish is slow and inadequate.

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se habla español aqui, but professional genealogist usually ='s $$$$

Now mind you that later in about 10 years after I've finally come to my
first brickwall I might be willing to part with some schecals but not
just yet.

Do you think she'd be willing to send the group some general tips to get
us newbies going? GRATIS?

what does she charge by the way?

thanks,

joseph

Send me her email address and I'll send her an invitation to join the
group in Spanish.

Evie Villegas wrote:

Luz Montejano of Mexico City has been a professional genealogist for 20
years and her area of expertise is Jalisco and Zacatecas. She is especially
helpful with historical issues as she knows which families lived in a
particular area at a particular time. She corresponds in Spanish only.

Luz Montejano of Mexico City has been a professional genealogist for 20
years and her area of expertise is Jalisco and Zacatecas. She is especially
helpful with historical issues as she knows which families lived in a
particular area at a particular time. She corresponds in Spanish only.

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Janie wrote:

My great-grandparents were:

Teodoro Rosales (dob: ? place of birth ? ) and Tomasita Villegas
(dob: ? Place of birth ? )

One of their children was:
1) Porfiria Rosales (my grandmother), dob: 9-16-1905 place of birth
Zacatecas,

I guess they don't know where in Zacatecas right? Do they remember
anything at all like if it was close to Jalisco or Northern Zacatecas or
close to Durango or possible close to the capital, Zacatecas, Zacatecas?
Ask again and see if they remember anything else. Sometime when you
interview someone they will not remember anything when asked a direct
question so maybe the story approach would work. Maybe asking then stuff
like tell me about what Bis Abuelita Tomasita did in Mexico. Get them
going on some story about her life and maybe the story they are telling
will trigger some tidbit about location. Or maybe get them going on some
story about how Abuela Porfiria did this or that. Ask if its okay to
tape the conversation so you

Que bueno Dios sabe que yo necesito ayuda a veses. . .entre los dos
puedemos ayudar a los que necesitan ayuda.

joseph

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Yo también hablo y escribo Español para los que necesiten ayuda con
la traducción de cualquier mensaje.

Maria



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Wow she sounds like a wonderfully experienced in Genealogy person. . .



Can you ask her some questions for me?



1) Colotlan's records keep saying from the diocese of Zacatecas. I don't
get this since its my understanding that it is the diocese of Guadalajara.
Could this possibly mean that it used to be of Zacatecas and now is of Guadalajara?
Or that in the days when the boundarys for the Estados were different so
was the diocese? If it used to be of Zacatecas and now is of Guadalajara
would the diocese records would they have been moved to Guadalajara or is
it possible that they are still hidden away in Zacatecas someplace?



2) Also I was hoping she might give me some thoughts on the duplications
of years covered in certain films from Guadalajara. For example there are
some single years that are covered by 4 different films. Also there are some
films that cover the same time periods: for example lets say your looking
for the 1685 time period. In this short list of the over 700 films

Joseph,
I think your idea is a good one.  Some suggestions I would make: 
don't add information that can be found somewhere else (for example 
the source list of films for a particular region off the LDS catalog 
could be added as a link instead).  The link would take up a lot less 
space and when the LDS catalog is updated our list would be out of 
date.  The ancestry reports can be exported to .rtf (rich text 
format) extensions.  rtf files take up less space than word documents 
and are compatible with more applications than are word documents.  
You also don't have to worry about members not being able to access a 
word document because they are running an older version of Word or 
don't have Word at all.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> So far I love this group. It seems in time as we all get things 
sorted 
> out and we see who everyone is looking for we will kind of keep an 
eye 
> out for the various relatives we're looking for. If

Another person who can help the group with dispensas is my friend, 
Nadine Vásquez.  Unfortunately, I can't ask her to join the group 
because she doesn't use a computer.  However, she co-authored a book 
on Dispensas Matrimoniales and is a wealth of information on that 
subject and Mexican genealogy in general.  She's been doing genealogy 
research since 1964.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Roberta"  wrote:
> Joseph - I'll email Steven Hernandez and invite him to join
> our group.  He has explained a couple of my gggrandmother/father's
> marriage certificates (with dispensas) (it seems as though all of my
> relatives were
> either 2nd 3rd or 4th cousins when they married). 
> I'll let you know what he says - apparently Steven has a lot of 
geneology
> information in the Los Altos area of Jalisco.
>  
> Roberta
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@n...]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos]

Yo también hablo y escribo Español para los que necesiten ayuda con 
la traducción de cualquier mensaje.

Maria