Thanks to Gloria Delgado we now have two scans in the files section
for the Valle de Huejucar area of present day Calvillo,
Aguascalientes. If some of your relatives came from those areas or the
Ranchos in present day Zacatecas bordering Aguascalientes you should
take a look at these scans. There are several films covering this area
in the Calvillo, Aguascalientes church.

Thanks Gloria,

joseph

I'd like to welcome Charles Clark to the group.

When everyone has a chance go to the "Links" area and see the link to
his genealogy. . .which is tied into Deena Ortiz' rootsweb site.

joseph

Hi Joseph,

I don't think Martin del Campo is a common surname except in Los 
Altos de Jalisco.  Three of my grandparents were from Los Altos and 
all three have Martin del Campo in their ancestry.  I am guessing 
they are all related, but right now I only have a couple of them 
connected.  I've read that all the Martin del Campo's from Los Altos 
descend from Lazaro Martin del Campo (the one you uploaded a family 
group sheet for).

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Puentes"  wrote:
> 
> So someone educate me. . .is the surname Martin del Campo a very
> common last name? Maria with all those Martin del Campo's in several
> differnt lines of various ones in the group it seems there should 
be a
> cross somewhere. Or is Martin del Campo kind of like Smith?
> 
> joseph

Sayula, Jalisco Bautismos: 1651-1875

C603475 1658 0224934

Batch No.:       Dates:               Source Call No.:

C603471 1651 - 1679 0224930
J603472 1679 - 1697 0224931
J603473 1697 - 1719 0224932
C603474 1719 - 1733 0224933
C603475 1733 - 1748 0227934

J603476 1756 - 1764 0224935
J603477 1765 - 1777 0224936
C603478 1777 - 1785 0224937
J603479 1785 - 1794 0224938
J603481 1794 - 1801 0224939
C603482 1801 - 1807 0224940
C603483 1807 - 1816 0224941
C603484 1816 - 1821 0224942

C603485      1821 - 1824       0224943

C603486 1824 - 1828 0224944
C603487 1828 - 1834 0224945
C603488 1834 - 1842 0224946
C603489 1842 - 1846 0224947
C603491 1846 - 1852 0224948
C603492 1852 - 1856 0224949
C603493 1856 - 1859 0224950
C6034

Just wanted to welcome Jose Luis Macias to the group.

take a look in the "links" section under "genealogies" for a link to
his rootsweb site.

joseph

So someone educate me. . .is the surname Martin del Campo a very
common last name? Maria with all those Martin del Campo's in several
differnt lines of various ones in the group it seems there should be a
cross somewhere. Or is Martin del Campo kind of like Smith?

joseph

ps: I bet ya a DNA test would show our Puentes were related but other
than that it might take a few more generations back. I'm going to
resume my backward search at the end of the Summer. Until then I'm
trying to gather as much Oral History as I can. When I resume my
search I'll be ordering films from Sombrerete, Zacatecas where I think
 my Justo Puente was married and from Tlaltenango where I think my
Diaz line came from. 

-- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "readysetgo95814"  wrote:
> I updated my reports.  Look in the files section for them.
> 
> Note to Joseph:  The entry I had written to you about previously is 
> for María Gregoria Puentes.  María Gregoria was born in Palos Altos 
> on 10 May 1804

I updated my reports.  Look in the files section for them.

Note to Joseph:  The entry I had written to you about previously is 
for María Gregoria Puentes.  María Gregoria was born in Palos Altos 
on 10 May 1804. She was the illegitimate child of José Quirino 
Puentes and Urbana Puentes.  The paternal grandparents were not named 
and the maternal grandparents were:  Blas Puentes and Victoria 
Péres.  María Gregoria was "de calidad Mestiza".  Let me know if they 
are related to your Puentes' ancestors.

Maria Cortez

My wife is working from home today and is tying up the internet 
connection but she gave it to me long enough to reply to your message.

You have a gift for understatement. . .you said, "I hope you got 
something out of this." 

well up until this point I was feeling a bit cocky thinking that I 
was just starting to get comfortable with my ability to navigate the 
www.familysearch.org web page. . .well now I know that I have a long 
way to go.

Sincerely thank you for your help with this. Your message tought me 
several things. Most importantly how that assumption is a terrible 
thing in Genealogy. When I saw the records of them having children in 
Huejucar I "assumed" that was where they were from and stopped 
looking for them in Santa Maria de Los Angeles. I even have one of 
those films (1158281) and thought I had gone through it 
thoroughly. . .shows I have a ways to go in my research technique.

thank you for your effort on my behalf and your contribution to the 
group. I hope one

Hi Joseph,



Did you know that certain marriage abstracts in the IGI contain the names of the bride and groom's parents?  Well your pentabuelos marriage record of them in the IGI does.  It appears that they were married in a place called Santa María de los Angeles, Jalisco.  Heard of it?  Here is their marriage abstract from the IGI.



IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

  Mexico

Search Results  | Download | Pedigree





JOSE RAFAEL TORRES

  Male   Family



Parents:

  Father:  PEDRO TORRES Family

  Mother:  MARIA JOSEFA RAMIRES  



Marriages:

  Spouse:  MARIA TRINIDAD MARQUEZ Family

  Marriage:  08 JUL 1829   Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco, Mexico



Parents:

  Father:        JUAN CLIMACO MARQUEZ Family

  Mother:  MARIA EULOGIA LUERA  



Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality

Greetings once again Ranchos group.



Hi Irma,

       I hope this message finds you well.  I just finished reviewing your latest Gutiérrez lineage and after much researching and putting all the pieces together, I have mostly good news to report.  It seems that the two Gutiérrez lines in your last file, are also the same as the Gutiérrez line of your great-grandmother, Tomasa Gutiérrez.  This makes three lines that broke off and then rejoined later on.  More on this in the following paragraph.  More precisely, these are branches of the Gutiérrez de Hermosillo family, one of the Hermosillo families I was telling you about the other day.  In fact Irma, you are very closely related to two cousins of mine, good friends and fellow genealogists, Miguel Gutiérrez (Mike) and Gabriel Gutiérrez, second cousins to each other.  Mike's direct line is Gutiérrez de Hermosillo and Gabriel's is Gutiérrez de Mendoza y Laris, a different branch of the same Gutiérrez line, but not through the Hermosillo