Is everyone able to read the "files" and the "links" on the 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos

homepage?

in the top corner where it says "Welcome" does your page say "Welcome
Guest" or does it say "Welcome and then your email address?"

if it says Welcome Guest then you need to sign in.

if you've never registered then you need to register to get a free ID
and Password.

If you have any problems doing this contact me at makas@... and
we'll work on it until we are successful at getting you logged in let
me know.

here are the instructions for doing that:

go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/

up in the top right click on "Register"

fill out the form (FREE) carefully writting down whatever ID and
password you choose (This part is critical!!!)

put the paper you wrote down your ID and Password in a safe place
(don't do like me and have to go hunting for those little scattered
pieces of paper I have with various and sundry passwords and id's)

After you've done this you'll have a Free

Deena Ortiz has updated the Charles Clark's Ulloa y Rodriguez
Genealogy on Rootsweb. 

Have a look:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=nochistlan&I11.x=24&I11.y=4

Thanks Deena
Thanks Charles

19. Historical Maps
http://bell.lib.umn.edu/hist/

The James Ford Bell Library at the University of Minnesota provides the
Historical Maps page as part of their main Web site. Users can view more
than fifty maps online, each of which contain a short description of what
the map is depicting. One example is a navigational map of Africa and the
Atlantic and Indian Oceans that was designed to illustrate the first Dutch
expedition to Java undertaken by Cornelis de Houtman in 1597. The maps can
be viewed in fine detail and are quite fascinating to view and learn about.
Anyone interested in history, cartography, or other similar subjects should
enjoy exploring the collection. [JAB]

Que tal Jose. . .welcome to the group,

Others can add to this. . .I'd say that you need to find your local
Family History Center and pay it a visit. It is a small genealogical
library that is part of the Larger Family History Library of Salt Lake
City. There are many branches all over the world and probably one close
to you. You don't need to be a member of the LDS Mormon church to use
these facilities and the cost for viewing film is very affordable.

To find your closest Family History Center go to this webpage:

http://www.familysearch.org

click on the tab at the top labeled "Library"

The on the next window click on the Link for  "Family History Centers."

fill in all the info asked for and see if there is a Family History
Center (FHC) close to you. I and a couple of others are Volunteers at
FHC's. I'm not a Mormon and they have let me do this. I'm learning a lot
about non-Hispanic Genealogy by working there every other Thursday.

Anyway don't be concerned about

My mane is Jose Rizo and I am looking for informaton About my great-
gradfather Estanislao Rizo. Steven Harnandez told me to look in some 
microfilms from las parroqias de arandas and I think familysearch.org 
might have them, bt I do not know how to access them or look at them. 
Can some one please explain to me how to look for microfilms and how 
to view them.  

Okay we're at 17K out of the 20K allowance in the "Files" section. I'm
going to delete the 1817 Census pages. have a look at them and if they
are of your area download them to your computer. If later you want them
again let me know and I'll email them to you off group.

joseph

Joseph,

yes I have 3 films ordered from that bunch.........problem is I needed the "hijos naturales".........but we will see what pops up!!!



Stella

This too shall pass.............