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New Files Added for Los Altos de Jalisco

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Hey everyone,
Hope you all are having a good weekend.  I made time today to add 
some files to my new Jalisco folder, more specifically 
Jalostotitlan, San Miguel El Alto, and San Juan de los Lagos.  The 
most common names in these files are Gonzalez, Martin, & Padilla.

I'm not all that far into the history of my familia in Jalisco.  But 
I'll be making a lot of additions in the next four months.  I'm 
fortunate to be able to go to Salt Lake City and the Family History 
Library there, and will make a lot of additions to these files in 
early December and early February. 

Check it out.

Take care,
Roberto

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Necesito una Traduccion

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Hey,

is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the
below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to
have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. .
.well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd
grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an
example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions
for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to me, but at the
minimum keep the 2 requirements to be part of the group part of your
version. . .I won't budge on this part!).

thanks,

joseph

============================================

Hello,

I'm glad you are interested in joining the Ranchos group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/.
We are a
small but dedicated group of serious researchers. Here is the
description of the group from our home page:

"This group is for those
actively searching for their Mexican Genealogy Roots. El objetivo de
este

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Roberto Martinez de Los Altos

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que te dije!

I told you that you and Steven would probably hook up. I'm glad you
have caught his interest as now you and those other cousins he
mentioned will have plenty to talk about. If possible it
would be way cool if you could keep the "non personal" discussions on-list
but you guys have to decide that one. Its just good to see some of
my effort paying off in discussion among the members. Anyway if you
keep it on-list very fine and if you go off-list esta bien tambien.

Be ready for the rush of material and in your research if you find that
you expand to other geographical areas of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes please share this info as well as others might care to
join your primos network.

oh by the way tambien soy Padilla but my Padillas are from the Juarez,
Chihuahua area and maybe came from Los Altos but I don't have any proof
of that.

oh another thing that would be so very cool would be this DNA thing you
mentioned. It would be great if you get sold
on

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Hey hey

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Hey hey, Roberto Martínez! On behalf of the entire Ranchos group, I would like to welcome you. My name is Steven F. Hernández, and just by the sound of the few names and Los Altos de Jalisco localities you mentioned, I can already tell you that you and I are related.

You will find you already have other distant (or not so distant) kin in Ranchos. Alice Wissing, María E. Cortéz, Irma Gómez Lucero, Roberta Romero, and María Elena (Nena) Gutiérrez Uhlenberg, among others I'm sure, share common ancestry from Los Altos. Irma and Nena in particular, as well as myself, have many common roots in Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, as well as many other towns. There all the Martín/Martínez/Martín del Campo/Campos are one in the same family. That MAY be your actual surname, Martín del Campo, as it was used in the past. Seems everyone with Alteño genealogy descends from that family at least once, if not more.

But the same can be said about some or many of the

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Hope everyone is doing well. Just wanted to introduce myself. I'm Roberto Martinez living in Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico. First want thank Joseph for putting in time to create this space.

I was born in San Jose CA & found my way to Albuquerque NM. My mother was born in Taft, Texas & my father in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. In Jalisco, my grandfather Brigido Martinez Padilla & his family were from Jalos & San Juan de los Lagos. My grandmother Soledad Gonzalez Padilla & her family were mostly from San Miguel & Jalos, & she in Villa Obregon (Canadas).

Soledad Gonzalez was born in Villa Obregon in 1920 to Sabas Gonzalez Munos & Zeferina Gonzalez Padilla, who were married in the early 1900?s.

Sabas Gonzalez was born in San Miguel El Alto in 1879 to Maximino Gonzalez Vallejo & Jacoba Munos Losa, who were married in San Miguel El Alto in 1876.

Zeferina Padilla was born in San Miguel El Alto in 1885 to Guadalupe Padilla Martin & Cleofas Gonzalez Centeno, who were married in San

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Irma,

I'll tell you right now who all those fathers were: "Espanoles aprovechados." I like your speculations.

Alice

Irma GomezLucero wrote:

I have also seen this in Jalisco records. The father was listed as "desconocido." Also Paternal grandparents were not even mentioned either.

I have seen many similar situations for Indian & Mulata women.

Makes you wonder who the fathers were, huh?

Did the woman never mention the father's name to the priest or were the names divulged in confession which would NEVER have become public record. I think more the latter. It isn't that the priest would be protecting the father, it's more the confidentiality of the Confession.

Something to think about...

Irma Gomez

-----Original Message-----
From: Al Duarte [mailto:aduarte@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:33 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Names

In my genealogy research using records of baptism (1700-1800) from Zacatecas and Chihuahua, I

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I have
also seen this in Jalisco records. The father was listed as "desconocido."
Also Paternal grandparents were not even mentioned either.

I have
seen many similar situations for Indian & Mulata women.

Makes
you wonder who the fathers were, huh?

Did
the woman never mention the father's name to the priest or were the names
divulged in confession which would NEVER have become public record. I
think more the latter. It isn't that the priest would be protecting the
father, it's more the confidentiality of the Confession.

Something to think about...

Irma
Gomez

-----Original Message-----
From: Al Duarte
[mailto:aduarte@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004
9:33 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos]
Names

In
my genealogy research using records of baptism (1700-1800) from Zacatecas
and Chihuahua, I found when a child was born out of wedlock, the child would
take the mother's last name. The father's name was never mentioned or

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wrong Las Animas, sorry

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Jose:

Good news. Try
the below website.

Steve Compos has
names you are looking from Jerez, which I believe will help you find your
family.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez/surnames.htm

Good
luck.

Alberto.

-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
[mailto:usa20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
10:43 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[ranchos] wrong Las Animas, sorry

Al; Thank you for your post about Jerez,
Zacatecas. My grandparents are from there and I didn't know that it was
so close to Jalisco. Do you have a contact with a Macias family member
in Jerez ? I am a descendant of Francisco Macias and Leonarda Ramirez,
of Jerez, Zacatecas.

Sincerely,

Jose Luis Macias

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From:
Al
Duarte

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
3:33 PM

Subject: RE: [ranchos] wrong Las
Animas, sorry

When we visited Jerez

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