Mexico, Zacatecas, Río Grande - Church records
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON MARIA ROMANA RIOS, BORN ABOUT 1818, HER PARENTS WERE JUAN RIOS AND ELENA REAL FROM RIO GRANDE ZACATECAS. MA.ROMANA MARRIED ANDRES SAAVEDRA, MY GGG GRANDFATHER. IN ROMANA'S DEATH CERTIFICATE FROM MAPIMI DURANGO IT STATES THAT HER PARENTS WERE "NATURALES DE RIO GRANDE ESTADO DE ZACATECAS" DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DON'T KNOW IF ROMANA WAS BORN IN ZACATECAS BUT SHE MAY HAVE.
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I believe there is a distinction between a Dispensa and an
Información Matrimonial. The dispensa was issued by the
bishopric.
In the case of Los Altos the bishopric was in Guadalajara. The
dispensa was a permission to marry. The Información Matrimonial
was
an investigation and once that was satisfied I don't think it always
resulted in a dispensa, but correct me if I am wrong. Also the
Información Matrimonial was conducted by the local parrish. Both
documents
I believe there is a distinction between a Dispensa and an Información Matrimonial. The dispensa was issued by the bishopric. In the case of Los Altos the bishopric was in Guadalajara. The dispensa was a permission to marry. The Información Matrimonial was an investigation and once that was satisfied I don't think it always resulted in a dispensa, but correct me if I am wrong. Also the Información Matrimonial was conducted by the local parrish. Both documents contain a wealth of information. I have an Información Matrimonial that covered the life of one of my ancestors in great detail. It talks about where she was born, when she first married, widowed, and where she resided until she married (my ancestor) for the second time. I have a dispensa from 1735 for another couple that is 21 pages long. They needed the dispensa because they were related to one another and the witnesses name the couple's ancestors four generations back! It was quite a find. Maria --- In
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In a message dated 27/12/2004 08:59:35 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, jonathan@... writes:
I can also confirm that when one or both of the pretenzos (novios) were from different parroquias or jurisdicciones, verification of their identities, ages, parentage, and if necessary, deny or confirm any possible parentesco, which would result in a "dispensa matrimonial." Those would then provide their common ancestry
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Here is a Website that covers the surname "Diaz Infante", from Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco. www.diazinfante.com.mx Jonathan Walker
Joseph wrote: - Well I guess i'm not much help but > what the priests were suppose to do when someone from another parish > came to be married in the church they were suppose to contact that > parish to make sure they were in good standing. [Note: Can anyone else > confirm what I just said. I am pretty sure I read that some place maybe > in George Ryskamp's Book]. > Ryskamp, does talk about the pre-marriage investigations, in chapter 10, page 193 of his book. Usually the results, of such investigations were kept in the "informaciones matrimoniales" or the "diligencias matrimoniales" Also, what makes you think that the two wives Maria Genoveba and Maria Josefa were from a different parish. Because, at times, people were not christened in a parish, but the family may have moved to the parish, after the children were christened, but they lived in the parish for years. The priest may then think, that he didn't need to make any further contact. Jonathan