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Primo: Pedigree Resource Files

Sorry,  I meant to say that Maria Eduviges Gonzales
Flores is Felipe and Lucia's daughter, NOT Lucia's
sister.  My Ggrandfather is not listed however, Andres
Gonsalez Flores, Maria Eduviges' sibling.  Sorry for
the confusion.


Dora


--- dora gomez  wrote:

> Joseph,
> 
> I have seen part of this file.  He has my
> gggrandfather and gggrandmothe listed: Felipe
> Gonzales
> and Lucia Flores, but that is where it ends. 
> Lucia's
> sister is listed Maria Eduviges Flores and her
> husband
> and a few descendants.  I feel that some of the
> dates
> on the listed are incorrect also.  I have emailed
> this
> gentleman and he has responded to me, but I am still
> in the process of sending him some information so he
> may respond to my inquiries.
> 
> Felipe and Lucia were from Hacienda El Mezquite,
> Fresnillo de Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas.
> 
> Dora
> 
> P.s. My husband has submitted his DNA and I am
> awaiting anxiously to see the results.  
> --- Joseph Puentes 

Primo: Pedigree Resource Files

Joseph,

I have seen part of this file.  He has my
gggrandfather and gggrandmothe listed: Felipe Gonzales
and Lucia Flores, but that is where it ends.  Lucia's
sister is listed Maria Eduviges Flores and her husband
and a few descendants.  I feel that some of the dates
on the listed are incorrect also.  I have emailed this
gentleman and he has responded to me, but I am still
in the process of sending him some information so he
may respond to my inquiries.

Felipe and Lucia were from Hacienda El Mezquite,
Fresnillo de Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas.

Dora

P.s. My husband has submitted his DNA and I am
awaiting anxiously to see the results.  
--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> I just found something that is probably old news for
> most of you. I was 
> looking around the Pedigree Resource File (PRF) and
> found this person:
> 
> Submitter:
> 
> 	Benicio Samuel Sanchez GARCIA
> Ramon Lopez Velarde 729 Contry La Silla Guadalupe,
> Nuevo Leon, Mexico 
> 67173 		
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	
>

Some links of interest

I just added the bookmarks to "Pueblos on the Web" (only the ones 
that weren't there of course)

Hadn't realized that you had that list.  Sorry.  You may delete my 
previous post if you wish.


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> great. if you don't mind and only if you have time can you put them 
in 
> the folder in the "links" area called: "Pueblos on the Web" started 
by 
> S. Apodaca:
> 
> put them in their appropriate folder:
> 
> 




Books by Esteban Valdez of Totatiche

Hi Angie,

On my visit to Totatiche last summer I also bought a copy of the "Los 
Valdez" and "Los Jara" books by Don Esteban Valdez.  

Besides the books you mention, I know of a couple more, which I also 
bought:  "Historia de Totatiche" and "Historia de Totatiche II".  
I obtained also the following smaller works:

Un Sacristán en Monterrey - Crónicas
Estirpe Sacerdotal Campos-Jara
El Sacerdocio Ministerial - Singular Don a la Parroquia de Totatiche

Of his latest book I still don't know, because last July he said it 
was still a work in progress and he was only at the start of that 
project.  He did mentioned that it would be mostly about the 
genealogy of several families from Totatiche.  I'm going to try to 
find out if he has any other books and I'll let you know when I do.

It is good for me to know that we share a common interest in that 
area of Jalisco.  I'll let you know when I upload some of my 
ancestors so you can check if you see familiar names/surnames.

Victor

---

Genealogy Societies in Mexico

Victor,

I have a copy of the Valdez book.  My great-grandparents are in it.  
But their line stops with them.  I guess he doesn't know any of their 
descendants.  I also have a book on the Campos-Jara family.  My 
family descends from this same Campos family, but not the Jara 
family.  I have a third book written by Esteban Valdes Salazar on the 
Grano family that again, my family descends from.  I have been 
curious what other books he has written.  Would you happen to have a 
list?  I wonder where I could get a list of book titles?

I believe his sister is in Momax, Zacatecas which is very close to 
Totatiche, Jalisco.  I think she has written several books about 
Momax.

Thanks,
Angie


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "vela_este"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph,
> 
> Not genealogical societies in the strict sense, but I understand 
that most of the cronistas locales or "town chroniclers" have an 
national association of their own that includes all of México.
> 
> Last

Some links of interest

Some links of interest:

Totatiche                 http://www.totatichejalisco.com
Totatiche                 http://www.totatiche.com
Tlaltenango               http://www.tlaltenango.com
Temastian                 http://www.temastian.com
Tepechitlán               http://www.tepechitlan.com
San Martín de Bolaños     http://www.sanmartinjalisco.com
Juchipila                 http://www.juchipila.com
Villa Guerrero            http://www.villaguerrero.com
Tomatlán                  http://www.tomatlan.com
El Refugio                http://www.refugianos.com
Huejucar                  http://www.huejucar.net
Monte Escobedo            http://monteescobedo.grupozacatecas.com
Atolinga                  http://www.atolinga.com

If I find some more I'll post them.  Do you have any others?

Victor




DNA Question]

Helyn asked a question and I asked Gary Felix that question and below
is his response. If you need a few more words of clarification please
direct your questions his way, but even if you don't forward them to
the group please keep me in the loop.



thanks,



joseph



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: Help/DNA Question
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:26:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Felix
To: Joseph Puentes




Sure Joseph, we all have DNA that is from our sex chromosomes.
Part of this DNA is used to determine our ancestry and find out who we
are related to now. Since DNA is the code of life it is handed down
from generation to generation. Some times there are differences from
one generation to the next (very rare in some cases frequent in other
cases). These differences are called mutations. By analyzing the
mutations over centuries your ancient origins can be

DNA Results





vela_este wrote:

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
  
Well I'm going to be brief and then refer you to Gary Felix: 
http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm also within this group 
Angel Cervantes is very capable of talking circles around me.

What I meant was that I found inidications (markers) that seem to 
indicate multinational ethnicity:
    
.....

Thanks for explaining!  

not much of an of an explanation. . .ask Gary Felix and share the
results with the group.


What about mtDNA?  Did you also got your maternal HG?

Yes---AFRICA:



mtDNA Results

Your Haplogroup and mutations relative to the
Cambridge Reference
Sequence (CRS) are shown below. A value of CRS indicates no mutations.
High resolution (HVR2) results are shown only if you have requested the
mtDNAPlus or mtDNA Refine test.

Understanding
your results.


Click here
if you are Haplogroup H and have tested for the H Subclades.