If anyone would care to submit or send me the batch numbers for your
particular research area I think it would help fill out those that are
currently in the file area of Ranchos2.

Any volunteers? If just one or two of you would come forward that would
be better than none.

thanks,

joseph

ps: If anyone is getting overwhelmed by the recent increase in messages
from the group I just wanted to say that putting your subscription into
the Digest mode is an option. That way instead of getting each
individual email in real time you would get one large email with all of
that days discussion included. The latter makes it easier to keep things
together, but you'll be about a day behind in the conversation. Just an
option

pps: Does anyone here ever get to UC Berkeley for their research? If so
can you contact me off list. . .makas@... thanks

Rosalinda,

I found two more children of Antonio de Real (son of Juan Martin)  
which are not listed in the email you sent me.  Are you aware of them?

Well, here they are.  Thanks for all your help.

THOMAS ANASTACIO REAL RODRIGUES  
Event(s): 
 Birth:  
 Christening:  28 DEC 1752   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
 Death:  
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTONIO DEL REAL  Family 
  Mother:  RUPHINA RODRIGUES     
Messages: 
 Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the 
record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by 
the birth or christening date.  
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  
Type:  
 C602862  1744 - 1755  0443672   Film  NONE  
--------------------------------------------------
MARIA EUFEMIA REAL RODRIGUES  
Event(s): 
 Birth:  
 Christening:  27 APR 1755   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
 Death:  
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTONIO DEL REAL  Family 
  Mother:

Rosalinda,

Thank you so much for your information about Juan Martin Suares del 
Real.  

The data I have about Pedro José Suares del Real (possible gradson of 
Juan Martin)is derived only from the marriage record of José Diego 
Cayetano (my 3rd great grandfather).  

This is so interesting!  Are those records on your email contained in 
the FamilySearch databases?

I'm going to take a real close look at each record and then I'll get 
back to you.

Thanks again!

Victor

If possible can we start changing the subject to properly reflect the
content of the messages? Just an idea that will be helpful in the future
when we try to do an archive search.

thanks,

joseph

ps: and no Rosalinda I wasn't only talking to you. . .   )

Descendants of Juan Martin /Suares del Real/

1    [2] Juan Martin /Suares del Real/ b: in Reinos de Castilla

..   +Lorensa Madera

.... 2 Antonio /del Real/

........+Juana Rufina Rodriguez aka: Rufina b: 1723 Baptism: 28 Apr 1723

     Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico m: 15 May 1740

     in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

..........  3    Maria Guadalupe /del Real/ b: 1742  Baptism: 05 Aug

            1742 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

..........  3    Juana /del Real/ b: 1746  Baptism: 13 Jun 1746 San

            Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

..........  3    Pedro Joseph /del Real/ b: 1748 Baptism: 14

go to: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm [also
found in the links area] and under "Llanetas" it says that its a
Hacienda close to "Valparaiso partido del Fresnillo"

go and check it out there are a lot of entries for San Jose and others
but i didn't see Llnetes specifically. Also I did see a San Miguel del
Puerto but it in Oaxaca.

have a look,

joseph



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "javier_m_barrios"
 wrote:
> 
> Looking for San Jose de Llanetes information.  I know that they were 
> owned my the Miranda family.  There was also San Miguel de Los 
> Puertos.  These are 2 haciendas owned my the Miranda family that my 
> family comes from...  Some of the names in my lineage are Ybarra, 
> Barrios, Martinez, Magallanes, Rivera, Hernandez, Pinzon.  Any help 
> would be appreciated...

Note:
A couple of years ago I was told by a genealogist from
SHARR, not to pay much attention to Mexican birth
records whenever race was noted.  Such birth record
notes (race) were just part of the racism that existed
at that time, and had no meaning to the make up of the
person.

I doubt if any one us can say what our ethnic make up
is, I know I cannot.

We are just good people!

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
--- marge vallazza  wrote:

> I have a copy of a microfilmed birth record of one
> of my ancestresses in Jerez, Zacatecas, where she is
> listed as a mestiza.  In Mitra Sacrada, by Luz
> Montejano Hilton, there's a marriage/consanguinity
> record of my ancestress' parents and their ancestors
> where they are clearly noted as espagnol.  Lastly,
> her son's birth record lists him as espanol.  I
> think whichever priest wrote the record was sleeping
> on the job.:)  Marge:) 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
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