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Fremont trip

We can be there Saturday the 19th,  Rich and our
son Rick will be golfing on Sunday and then Mon and Tues we make tamales in
Santa Cruz.  then back home on the 22nd p.m.  
We are currently doing our homework for our upcoming
trip to SLC this coming April - May.  We will be there about 2 weeks, but
probably only get to the library 3-4 times. 
What time works for you on the 19th.  If the 19th
doesn't work for you, we can find out what tee time our son has and work around
their golf on Sunday. 
Where about do you live in San Jose?  
Since we came from Fremont in 1986, we are somewhat familiar of the area. 
I was raised in Santa Clara and Rich was raised in Redwood City. 
We will be coming in on 680 or Hiway 80 from
Fremont.
 
Kitty



From: Alicia Carrillo
[mailto:alliecar@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:43
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Thoughts on a SLC Trip

Kitty,
 
My husband Juan and I would also like to meet you. I had not replied

Thoughts on a SLC Trip

Kitty,
 
My husband Juan and I would also like to meet you. I had not replied because I wasn't sure if we were going to be in town on that date. Our grandson who is with us will be out of school that week and we were planning on going to Ensenda. Because we are undergoing bathroom remodeling we will delay by a few days so we'll be here. I can put on a cup of coffee and get some pan dulce/Mexican sweetbread. Please let me know if that would work. Since we're both at home we are flexible with time.
 
I can't wait, this would be great to meet up face to face with such experienced genealogists.
 
Alicia

kitty_cortez wrote:


Alicia
I would spend your time at SLC in making copies of those records you
found on the IGI.  If you ONLY go after the extracted documents that
you know are on the films, you should have no problem getting thru
the 47 rolls of film you have.  Then any extra time can be used by
going thru a couple of films slowly.  If your list of documents to
find is listed

UTPA Books: Los Altos Books/Mazapil/Nochistlan/

Author 	Tuck, Jim.

Title The holy war in Los Altos : a regional analysis of Mexico's
Cristero rebellion / Jim Tuck.

Publication info. 	Tucson, Arizona : University of Arizona Press, c1982.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	xiii, 230 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Bibliography 	Bibliography: p. 209-219.
Note 	Includes index.
Local note 	TPNA 15.95
	TPNA 15.95 c.2
Subject 	Cristero Rebellion, 1926-1929.
	Jalisco (Mexico) -- History.
ISBN 	0816507791
===========================
Author 	Robe, Stanley Linn, 1915- comp.

Title Mexican tales and legends from Los Altos / Introd.,
classification, and notes by Stanley L. Robe.

Publication info. 	Berkeley : University of California Press, 1970.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	578 p. : ill., ports. ; 27 cm

Victor (Villarreal in Zacatecas, etc.)

In a message dated 2/11/2005 10:10:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
vela_este@... writes:

Well, it
is not so much that this conversation would be boring to other members as it
is that it could easily drift away from the main area of interest of the
Ranchos group. 

Exactly....this group is centered on a particular area of our
background....which is what I meant about "boring" because it does not
necessarily apply to research of this group...that of western part of Mexico, in
particular Zacatecas, Jalisco, etc...

Anyway,
just to reply to your previous post, here are a couple of comments.

I
still don't have a full picture of all the historical events related to the
first Villarreales in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales
that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in mining for precious metals
along with other historical characters as Bernabé de las Casas and Martin de
Zavala.

This is what I know as well.....

  I
believe the first mining

Victor

Yup!  We keep moving North.  I'm in the
Heartland after a few years in the DC area. My husband came here from
the eastern coast of SA.  Marge:)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:20
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Victor

The progression and movement of the Mexican people 
to
the north and other parts:

Have you all noticed the progression
and movement of
the Mexican people, which includes all of us, in
the
last couple of hundred years?

My records show that my people
were in Zacatecas for
350+ years until my grandfather moved from
Zacatecas
to Mapimi, Durango, about 1910. He probably moved
because of
the wars, famine, and the need to make a
decent living for a large family
of ten children.

From Mapimi, my widow grandmother in 1924 went to
El
Paso, Texas, taking all 5 children by herself. The
other five all
died.

My dad left El Paso for Los Angeles in 1942 because of
the

Victor

Interesting observation, Alberto.

I agree that in the last couple of centuries migration has been 
predominantly northward.  And the trend still continues!

In my previous post, I was refering to that time when the Spaniards 
were still exploring the unknown territories of New Spain.  That 
usually meant that the first to find valuable lands, mines, etc. 
would have a claim to the same.  This was the greatest incentive for 
the explorers.  At that time they just took a lucky chance in 
deciding what direction to go and hope for the best.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> The progression and movement of the Mexican people  to
> the north and other parts:
> 
> Have you all noticed the progression and movement of
> the Mexican people, which includes all of us, in the
> last couple of hundred years?
> 
> My records show that my people were in Zacatecas for
> 350+ years until my grandfather moved from Zacatecas
> to Mapimi, Durango, about

Victor

The progression and movement of the Mexican people  to
the north and other parts:

Have you all noticed the progression and movement of
the Mexican people, which includes all of us, in the
last couple of hundred years?

My records show that my people were in Zacatecas for
350+ years until my grandfather moved from Zacatecas
to Mapimi, Durango, about 1910. He probably moved
because of the wars, famine, and the need to make a
decent living for a large family of ten children.

>From Mapimi, my widow grandmother in 1924 went to El
Paso, Texas, taking all 5 children by herself. The
other five all died.

My dad left El Paso for Los Angeles in 1942 because of
the lack of opportunities for himself and his
children. Teas was a hard place to make a living for
anyone Mexican blood at that time.

I left Los Angeles in 1987 for Santa Maria,
California, because we could not take the high crime
rate and deterioration of our community.

My third oldest daughter left for New York city to
break in to

Victor (Villarreal in Zacatecas, etc.)

Esperanza,

Well, it is not so much that this conversation would be boring to other members as it is that it could easily drift away from the main area of interest of the Ranchos group.  Anyway, just to reply to your previous post, here are a couple of comments.

I still don't have a full picture of all the historical events related to the first Villarreales in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in mining for precious metals along with other historical characters as Bernabé de las Casas and Martin de Zavala.  I believe the first mining sites in Mexico were located in the center of the country and there was a gradual movement in search of new sites in practically every direction.  Many of the settlers of Nuevo Leon had already passed thru Guanajuato, San Luis Potosi, Zacatecas, etc. on their way up north.  I believe such is the case for Diego de Villarreal.

As you know, there are some Villarreales among the passenger list of

List Your Films Please: was FHC Westwood




In the January 2005 issue of Somos Primos, it is noted that a volunteer has indexed every Latin America film the Los Angeles LDS Family History Center has at it's location.That index can now be viewed on the internet.  Hopefully, this can help someone save a trip to Westwood. 


The ftp: in the email is correct. ftp://66.159.208.204/latinfilms/home.html



Joseph Puentes wrote:

okay, so now the cat is out of the bag. In the Ranchos2 files [look under "members films"] area is a place where members can list their permanent films. I know that some of those films might not be exactly yours but if you could why not make a list of all the films you have "permanently" available via your family history center that have to do with Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes and add them to the list. If all the members would do this we could possible ask for an occassional emergency* look up or maybe some general information.

For example like I was surprised to see so many baptisms for

Victor

I don't think any of the family stories are boring. I believe that it's important for the rest of us to see the group/family connections. I think it's wonderful how different members are finding each others' descendants and for me personally, I get inspired and hopeful every time I see others making those connections. I may not read every detail of every new name and connection but It does give me hope and it keeps me motivated.
Alicia

Alberto Duarte wrote:

Your family story is not boring. Please continue on.

Alberto.

--- latina1955@... wrote:

> Hi Victor,
> 
> I didn't realize the Villarreales were connected to
> Zacatecas, although  I
> have read some history on Zacatecas and came across
> the Villarreal name  quite
> often, particularly during the time of civil war - I
> thought the  original one
> settled in Oaxaca.  I have not been able to make a
> connection  with Danny,
> although the area that he mentions in Nuevo Leon
> (the place settled  by the
> original settlers