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NMSU filming archives of Sombrerete

I hoping and dreaming.....
I'm hoping they do the cities of Zacatecas, Jerez,
Vetagrande, and Panuca, in the future.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:

> Gloria,
>  
> Is this the only municipality in Zacatecas that they
> will be filming? Just curious as to why only this
> region and not others. Maybe someone at the
> university is from that area?
>  
> Alicia
> 
> gmccrary@... wrote:
> In my latest alumni issue from New Mexico State
> University in Las 
> Cruces, I found the following article:
> 
> NMSU is filming the archives of Sombrerete,
> Zacatecas.  It will 
> take 2 years and produce about 200 reels of film.
> "The archive 
> houses little used, but incredibly rich
> documentation for the period 
> of the late 17th century through the end of the 18th
> century."
> 
> Among the materials are the church sacramental
> records such as 
> the marriage records from 1738-1764.
> 
> I am looking forward to the completion of the

NMSU filming archives of Sombrerete

Gloria,

 

Is this the only municipality in Zacatecas that they will be filming? Just curious as to why only this region and not others. Maybe someone at the university is from that area?

 

Alicia

gmccrary@... wrote:

In my latest alumni issue from New Mexico State University in Las
Cruces, I found the following article:

NMSU is filming the archives of Sombrerete, Zacatecas.  It will
take 2 years and produce about 200 reels of film. "The archive
houses little used, but incredibly rich documentation for the period
of the late 17th century through the end of the 18th century."

Among the materials are the church sacramental records such as
the marriage records from 1738-1764.

I am looking forward to the completion of the filming.  Many of my
ancestors came from Sombrerete.  Don Diego de Vargas recruited
many of his NM colonizers from this area.  Many of us from NM
trace our roots to this region.

Gloria

Thanks for sharing your immigration stories

I have enjoyed reading the various contributions of the ranchos members 
regarding immigration stories. Struggles, sacrifices, and successes. 
Someone asked if I was the immigrant - I am not; my father came to this 
country in 1916 when he was 4 years old. His genealogy and a brief 
story (one paragraph) regarding an episode in that journey is in the 
files (JJ Castro). That brief paragraph explains with whom he traveled.
Thanks again - are there any other immigration stories? I will have to 
compose the rest of my family's story, and hope to post in a few days. 
(I'm afraid I don't have as many details as some of you.)

Natalie in VA




NMSU filming archives of Sombrerete

In my latest alumni issue from New Mexico State University in Las 
Cruces, I found the following article:

NMSU is filming the archives of Sombrerete, Zacatecas.  It will 
take 2 years and produce about 200 reels of film. "The archive 
houses little used, but incredibly rich documentation for the period 
of the late 17th century through the end of the 18th century."

Among the materials are the church sacramental records such as 
the marriage records from 1738-1764.

I am looking forward to the completion of the filming.  Many of my 
ancestors came from Sombrerete.  Don Diego de Vargas recruited 
many of his NM colonizers from this area.  Many of us from NM 
trace our roots to this region.

Gloria

My Father's Immigration

Yes, Alberto,
 
We are lucky to have been brought to this great land of opportunity.  Our ancestors would be proud of our accomplishments.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto Duarte
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: My Father's Immigration
 

A sad story but a happy ending.
Our story is almost the same.  After my grandfather
Alberto Duarte Vasquez died in 1923, in Mapimi, my
grandmother Maria Luz Cuevas Luera gathered all of her
5 kids and headed for El Paso, Texas, where she lived
and eventually died after some 40 years.  The Mexican
civil war of 1915 and the flu epidemic devastated most
of the population of central Mexican states.  Over
half of my dad's family died because of the flu
epidemic, which led of my grandfather's heavy drinking
and eventual death. 

The good part of this story is that my grandmother saw
that there was no future for her kids in Mexico and
did something about it.

But can

New member - Grano Family

Arturo--
 
Hola, primo!  When I entered your information into my database, I found that you are my cousin... in 20 different ways.  The closest relationship we share is sixth cousins.  I don't think I have anyone who is related to me that many times!  I'm also emailing you some information I have in my database about some additional ancestors I didn't see in your Ranchos file. 
 
 
Rosalinda
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 8/1/2005 3:24:57 PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: New member - Grano Family

Rosalinda, et. al.

I thought I would share this with the group.  Thanks to Angies
meticulous analysis of my family tree data, we have discovered that I
am decendant of Joseph Cayetano Grano (Rita and Eucevia and
Josepha's) father in a total of six different ways...  I guess we are
cousins in more ways than we thought.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
wrote:
> Arturo--
>
> May I invite myself to this party?  I too

Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

For those that don't know John Schmal, he is probably
the leading historian on Zacatecas that I know, which
includes both Zacatecas and the United States.  You
can also write to him and he will reply.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Alberto Duarte  wrote:

> John Schmal wrote an excellent article about the
> Chichimecas.  
> 
> Please go to and see:
>
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/jpschmal/jsindigenouszacatecas.html
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto.
> Santa Maria, California
> 
> --- Arturo Ramos  wrote:
> 
> > Does anybody have any information on the forced
> > immigration of 
> > Tlaxcaltec Indios to the Chichimeca regions of
> > Colotlan, San Luis 
> > Potosi and Chalchichuites in 1591?  The
> involuntary
> > migration was 
> > organized by a certain Rodrigo del Rio in order to
> > bring pacified 
> > settlers to promising mining areas where the
> Spanish
> > were to that date 
> > unable to pacify the local Indios.
> > 
> >

Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

John Schmal wrote an excellent article about the
Chichimecas.  

Please go to and see:
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/jpschmal/jsindigenouszacatecas.html

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> Does anybody have any information on the forced
> immigration of 
> Tlaxcaltec Indios to the Chichimeca regions of
> Colotlan, San Luis 
> Potosi and Chalchichuites in 1591?  The involuntary
> migration was 
> organized by a certain Rodrigo del Rio in order to
> bring pacified 
> settlers to promising mining areas where the Spanish
> were to that date 
> unable to pacify the local Indios.
> 
> These were appartently a large percentage of the
> original settlers in 
> both Colotlan and Totatiche, Jalisco.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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Jalostotitlan Trip

The countryside of the municipio of Jalostotitlan is
beautiful at this time.  I had always gone to this area during the months
of November & December as a child.  When I went two years ago in July,
I was astounded at the beauty of the countryside.  I even asked my dad who
I accompanied on this trip why he had left such a beautiful area.  He
reminded me of the other times of the year where its arid and
dusty.
Since I've never been to "El Rancho Los Portales," which
ranches is it near?  My sense of direction is not that
great.  I only know individuals who do not live there anymore. 
In other words, they immigrated to the US, in the 1950's when my folks
left.  I currently have living relatives in the following ranches:  La
Estanzuela, La Parada, El Aguila--as far as Jalos.  I went to La Parada on
the last trip.  They also raise cattle, and grow corn (Las Milpas) for
their cattle.
Las Fiestas de Agosto bring many people back to
Jalos.  I recall going many years back.  I

Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

Does anybody have any information on the forced immigration of 
Tlaxcaltec Indios to the Chichimeca regions of Colotlan, San Luis 
Potosi and Chalchichuites in 1591?  The involuntary migration was 
organized by a certain Rodrigo del Rio in order to bring pacified 
settlers to promising mining areas where the Spanish were to that date 
unable to pacify the local Indios.

These were appartently a large percentage of the original settlers in 
both Colotlan and Totatiche, Jalisco.