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Digest Number 570

I hope you had better luck that me.  I use google but
when I type "Duarte genealogia", the information I
receive is about 98% from the Portuguese branch and
very little from the Spanish Branch, and about 0% from
Mexico.

But google is a good source.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- "Josie T. Trevino"  wrote:

> 
> I went to Google and typed "Claudio Jimenez
> Vizcarra" and got two good
> websites......try it!
> 
> Josie in San Antonio, TX
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:10 AM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 570
> 
> 
> Message: 5         
>    Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:55:57 -0000
>    From: "Arturo Ramos" 
> Subject: Wills and Testaments in 16th  and 17th
> Centuries in Nueva Galicia
> 
> Here is a likely useful reference that I just found.
>  If anybody knows
> anything about it, please let me

Digest Number 570

I went to Google and typed "Claudio Jimenez Vizcarra" and got two good
websites......try it!

Josie in San Antonio, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:10 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 570


Message: 5         
   Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:55:57 -0000
   From: "Arturo Ramos" 
Subject: Wills and Testaments in 16th  and 17th Centuries in Nueva Galicia

Here is a likely useful reference that I just found.  If anybody knows
anything about it, please let me know.  I am going to peruse it over at the
Library of Congress one of these days.

Jiménez Vizcarra, Claudio.
Indice del Archivo del Juzgado General de Bienes de Difuntos de la Nueva
Galicia, siglos XVI y XVII / Claudio Jiménez Vizcarra.
México, D.F. : Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, 1978.
61 p. ; 27 cm. 




Wills and Testaments in 16th and 17th Centuries in Nueva Galicia

Here is a likely useful reference that I just found.  If anybody knows 
anything about it, please let me know.  I am going to peruse it over at 
the Library of Congress one of these days.

Jiménez Vizcarra, Claudio.
Indice del Archivo del Juzgado General de Bienes de Difuntos de la 
Nueva Galicia, siglos XVI y XVII / Claudio Jiménez Vizcarra.
México, D.F. : Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, 1978.
61 p. ; 27 cm.






Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

Alberto:

Thanks for the information.  Based on that article, I found a very 
useful book on the topic, which Schmal references:

People of the Peyote: Huichol Indian History, Religion, & Survival 
(Paperback) by Stacy B. Schaefer (Editor), Peter T. Furst (Editor)

I also ordered one of his books on genealogy.

Mexican-American Genealogical Research: Following the Paper Trail to 
Mexico (Paperback) by John Schmal, Donna Morales

I have also found a couple of books published by a University in 
Tlaxcala that are precisely on the topic of Tlaxacltec settlements in 
Zacatecas:

Los tlaxcaltecas en el estado de Zacatecas: sublevaciones 
Autor: Elva Martínez Rivera 
ISBN: 968-7727-33-0 

Constructores de la nación. La migración tlaxcalteca en el norte de 
la Nueva España
Autor: Israel Cavazos Garza
ISBN: 968-7727-36-5 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> John Schmal wrote an excellent article about the
> Chichimecas.  
> 
> Please go to and see:
> 
ht

Zamora

Thank you for your help, especially the map!  I do believe my Mendez 
family from Tamazula may have come from Michoacan... Looks like many 
people followed the jobs, my family seems to have worked the sugar 
cane.  
thank you again, Linda in Wa.




Zamora/Samora Jalisco?

Zamora is in Michoacan.  A few months ago, I placed a posting about how I found a relationship between peoples in parts of Jalisco (Los Altos) and those from the upper western portion of Michoacan.  I think you are re-confirming what I've seen to observe.
 
Esperanza (chicago area) 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:45:16 -0000
Subject: [ranchos] Zamora/Samora Jalisco?

I'm working on records from Zapotlan el Grande/Ciudad Gusman Jalisco 
and am finding many people from Samora/Zamora and can't find it on the 
map of Jalisco. Does anyone know if this town is in Jalisco or a 
neighboring state?  The time period is around 1750.
thanks for any help, Linda from Wa.




 
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Zamora/Samora Jalisco?

Could it be Zamora, Michoacán? 

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.travelamap.com/mexico/michoacan.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.travelamap.com/mexico/michoacan.htm&h=360&w=490&sz=69&tbnid=WXREAccOoCQJ:&tbnh=93&tbnw=127&hl=en&ei=w7T4Qq6jKZyaaIfJnZ8L&sig2=U7X-f48YUmMGXxUe5V8RFw&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmichoacan%2Bmap%26svnum%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGLG,GGLG:2005-32,GGLG:en


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
> I'm working on records from Zapotlan el Grande/Ciudad Gusman Jalisco 
> and am finding many people from Samora/Zamora and can't find it on the 
> map of Jalisco. Does anyone know if this town is in Jalisco or a 
> neighboring state?  The time period is around 1750.
> thanks for any help, Linda from Wa.



Zamora/Samora Jalisco?

I'm working on records from Zapotlan el Grande/Ciudad Gusman Jalisco 
and am finding many people from Samora/Zamora and can't find it on the 
map of Jalisco. Does anyone know if this town is in Jalisco or a 
neighboring state?  The time period is around 1750.
thanks for any help, Linda from Wa.



filming Sombrerete

New Mexico State U. has filmed 3 archives from Mexico: three 
collections in Durango--"the archives from the Durango Cathedral, 
the state's notary records and a portion of the colonial materials 
from the state historical archives."  The Sombrerete will be the 4th 
one.  

NMSU worked with the town council to gain permission to film those 
documents from Sombrerete.  The person in charge at NMSU is 
Dennis Daily.  Perhaps you can contact him and inquire about future 
projects.

Gloria

NMSU filming archives of Sombrerete

I hoping and dreaming.....
I'm hoping they do the cities of Zacatecas, Jerez,
Vetagrande, and Panuca, in the future.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:

> Gloria,
>  
> Is this the only municipality in Zacatecas that they
> will be filming? Just curious as to why only this
> region and not others. Maybe someone at the
> university is from that area?
>  
> Alicia
> 
> gmccrary@... wrote:
> In my latest alumni issue from New Mexico State
> University in Las 
> Cruces, I found the following article:
> 
> NMSU is filming the archives of Sombrerete,
> Zacatecas.  It will 
> take 2 years and produce about 200 reels of film.
> "The archive 
> houses little used, but incredibly rich
> documentation for the period 
> of the late 17th century through the end of the 18th
> century."
> 
> Among the materials are the church sacramental
> records such as 
> the marriage records from 1738-1764.
> 
> I am looking forward to the completion of the