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Maybe.  But even now, many young people met in church
and eventually get married that have different names.
I believe many marriages were arranged
by the parents
during the time of our grandparents.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Emilie Garcia wrote:

> Angie,
>
> People used to be named according to the Calendar of
> Saints, no?  My mother always spoke about her "saint
> day

Emilie,

Yeah, I am familar with naming children based on the Saint's Feast 
day.  And given that it makes it even harder to believe.  Two people 
born on the same day or give or take a day and they get married.  
Well, I guess that isn't unheard of, I have an aunt and her husband 
who share a birthday (they have different first names).

I have over 7000 names in my family tree program and it feels like a 
large number of them have the same first name with their spouse... 
but I probably exaggerate.  I wonder if its possible to print out a 
list...

I am able to print them by birthdate and matching names almost always 
line up... 

Thanks,
Angie

FYI: For anyone interested:
Saint Calendar - 
http://www.catholic.org/saints/calendar/december.php
     or
Feastday List - 
http://www.catholic.org/saints/f_day/dec.php

Names can be used to approximate birthdays...help you look in the 
right month...to find a relatative birth/christening.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"

Maybe.  But even now, many young people met in church
and eventually get married that have different names. 
I believe many marriages were arranged by the parents
during the time of our grandparents.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:

> Angie,
> 
> People used to be named according to the Calendar of
> Saints, no?  My mother always spoke about her "saint
> day" and other people's.  Everyone's saint day
> seemed to be a big deal then (my mother was born in
> 1902) and parties were held, sort of like birthday
> parties, only you celebrated the day that saint was
> on some calendar.  She was Luisa and guys named Luis
> celebrated their saint day at the same time.  she
> didn't marry a Luis though.  Could it be that young
> people met at church on their saint day, got
> acquainted and visited each other later?
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA --
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: John Gonzalezmailto:1gnzlz@...> 
>

aajay1073 wrote:

To the Group,

Off topic...is it just my family or has anyone else noticed that
people tended to marry people with similar names, ie Gregorio married
Gregoria. I have lots of Antonio's married to Antonia's, Felipe's
married to Felipa's, ...the list goes on...

I've noticed the same thing with some of my Francisco/Francisca,
Antonio/Antonia, In my situation I don't see it that often but
occasionally.

joseph

John,

Well, I am glad you are having success with Legacy...

Sorry, but Gregorio Godina and Gregoria Martinez don't sound 
familar.  The only Gregorio Godina I have in my family tree was 
married to Maria Remigia Huerta on 14 DEC 1808.  His birth must have 
been between 1771-1790.  His parents were Mauricio Casimiro Godina 
Cardenas christened on 4 JUN 1742 and married to Maria Rosalia de la 
Luz Texeda on 13 MAR 1771.  I am actually only related to these 
Godina's through the Cardenas family.  I have been trying to tie my 
Godina line to this line without success.  I am more closely related 
to Maria Remigia Huerta who's parents are Jose Guadalupe Huerta 
married to Juana Maria Sandoval Castaneda christened on 23 MAR 1770 
and married on 8 MAR 1788.  This last couple are my 4th great-grand 
parents.

To the Group,
Off topic...is it just my family or has anyone else noticed that 
people tended to marry people with similar names, ie Gregorio married 
Gregoria.  I have lots of Antonio's

I am interested in getting this book please send info on how to get it with cost

thanks Jose

John,

I have had the same problem.  If you print directly it comes out 
fine, so its kind of odd that it doesn't work when you print to file.

My solution has been.  Open the document in Microsoft Word.  Place 
the cursor at the end of the document.  Create a page break if you 
want the index to appear on a new page.  Select the 'Insert' menu, 
then the 'Reference' option, then the 'Index and Tables...' option.  
Select the options you want to see in your index.  Specifically the 
way you want your index formatted.  Test out a couple of options, to 
see what you like...

Hope this information helps...

Good Luck,
Angie Godina

P.S.  This is my second try at a response...the first time my browser 
errored out and closed itself...therefore if this message ends up 
being a duplicate...sorry...oh well...

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I 
know 
> we have a number of members using PAF

The surnames Romero de Chavez, Torre-Ledesma, and Torres will be 
published in Tomo IV.  The only volumes that were ever published 
originally were I and II. 

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Linda R Romero  wrote:
>
> Will you please check for my family names from Jalisco??  They are  
> Romero and de la Torre from the Guadalajara and Tepatitlan areas 
of  
> Jalisco.  I'm not sure if they started there or moved there from  
> other areas. They were there at least from the mid to late 1800's.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Linda Romero
> 
> 
> Maria Cortez wrote:
>    The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de 
Jalisco.
> Some families do extend to other states, so you might find some of
> your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy of Tomo
> I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the subsequent
> Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If anyone wants 
me
> to check for any surnames send me an e-mail

John,

If you can't wait for the PAF software team to find a solution, I
recommend you download the free edition of Legacy Family Tree.  You
can import your gedcom file and then print the same kind of book report.

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for taking the time to look into the problem.  I was
thinking the same thing that you are, that it could be a software problem
> with PAF 5. 
> 1gnzlz@v...

John,

That must be a bug in the software.  I just tried running the same
procedure and the same thing happens:  I can preview the Index but
then it doesn't appear in the Word document.  I'm using PAF 5. Anyone?

Victor
Reynosa, Mexico

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
> we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.
> 
> I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
> include an index to go along with it.
> 
> I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
> option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
> save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
> program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
> the saved file, same results.
> 
> Any help or suggestions

Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.

I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
include an index to go along with it.

I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!

What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
the saved file, same results.

Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
Thank you. 

John Gonzalez
Wildomar CA. 

Have you tried another variant? Guarana? marge:)

On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Mary Allen wrote:

Hello Victor,

 

I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @ 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help. Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working on that.

 

I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that Garana was not his real name at all or it may have been his mother's name.  My grandfather was so intelligent, so educated, so aristocratic

I would highly recommend listening to the Dear Myrtle Genealogy podcast
for information that can help us in our research. Specifically she had a
great show with some powerful resources on recording "Oral History."
have a listen to this podcast and all of her shows:

http://ia300036.us.archive.org/1/items/DearMYRTLEs_Family_History_Hour_Internet_Radio_Show_13_Dec_2005/DearMYRTLE2005Dec13.mp3

[if the above URL wraps to the next line you'll have to rebuild it]

or you can access it from here as well:
http://www.dearmyrtle.com/05/1213r.htm

here is the URL for her show in general:

http://www.dearmyrtle.com/listen.htm

joseph

Mary,

I guess this is just an idle question, but have you searched the
surname Grana and/or Grama?  

Also, if the person in question was associated with the Augustinians
and the Jesuits, have you considered the possibility that he was not
born in México but elsewhere?

Just some thoughts!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> Hi Victor
>   I know her!  You found me!  My family and friends call me Nancy. 
You'll also find my brother Edward placing similar notices everywhere.
 We have been doing this for years and years with no results.
>    
>   Mary  
> 
> "v.h.villarreal"  wrote:
>   Mary,
> 
> Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
> surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.
> 
> Read the following:
> 
> [quote]
> Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
> information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
> grandmother PETRA

Hi Victor

Mary,

Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.

Read the following:

[quote]
Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
grandmother PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ (GARANA). She lived in Salinas del
Penon Blanco,
SLP,SLP and in the city of San Luis Potosi.

She was the child of VICTOR ROMERO GALVAN and the grandchild of MONICO
ROMERO CARRERA who may have lived in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.

Of JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA I know only that he was somehow associated
with the Augustinians as a child and that later he was a jesuit
seminarian. He was never ordained. He had to leave San Luis