Calvillo native son, Appointed to the Cathedral in Aguascalientes. Designado a la catedral en Aguascalientes.

Congratulations ! Padre Casimiro Serna Esqueda, best wishes and prayers.

The Bishop of Aguascalientes, Jose Maria de la Torre Martín, announced further changes and castling in parishes of the diocese, which he said are badly needed for better care for the Catholic faithful. As part of changes announced the appointment of priest Casimiro Serna as Canon of the Cathedral, after serving the parish of Sagrada Familia, Ags. Ags. Now also celebrates 75 yrs of age.

El Obispo de Aguascalientes, José María de la Torre Martín, anunció nuevos cambios y enroques en parroquias de la Diócesis, los cuales, dijo, son muy necesarios para una mejor atención a los fieles católicos.
Como parte de los cambios realizados, anunció el nombramiento del presbítero Casimiro Serna como Canónigo de la Catedral, tras haber cumplido los 75 años de edad.

Translation Assistance - 1757 Family Drama

On January 28, 1757, Maria Antonia de Carrion (wife of Vicente Gonzalez de Solis) provided testimony - I believe it is in response to the pending marriage of Lugarda Gonzalez de Solis to Joseph Rodriguez, but I'm not 100% certain of the circumstances regarding her testimony. Statements were also made by Silvestra Munoz (wife of Antonio Gonzalez de Solis). Silvetra is the daughter of Juan Joseph Munoz who is the brother of my 5th great grandfather. Also named are Gertrudis de Alarcon, mother of Juan Joseph Munoz (she is my 6th great grandmother).

The first few pages are pretty tough to read, but subsequent pages are easier to read. The testimony begins here: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15265-4322-34?cc=1804458&wc=…

It includes 11 screen images for a total of 21 pages of testimony. It appears to get very personal when one of the woman is referred to as a "puerca cochina" on image #276 (left hand page). I'm sure these were harsh words for 1757.

I'd plan to add these records to my family file, but would love to understand exactly what started this, how these people were involved, and how it ended.

Any translation assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Dom-05.Oct-2014 Muerte del Padre de Rick Rodriguez, Presidente de la Sociedad de Genealogia e Historia de los Altos de Jalisco

Lupita Gonzalez‎Genealogía e Historia de Los Altos de Jalisco
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Mi más sentido pésame primo Ricardo Rodriguez, que Dios les fortalezca en esta pena tan fuerte, te mando un abrazo a nombre de toda la familia, nuestras oraciones por su eterno descanso y fortaleza para todos ustedes.
Descanse en Paz.
Ya no me gustaYa no me gusta ·
A ti, Sergio Gutiérrez-Rubio y 10 personas más les gusta esto.

Rome Dlt Ricky:
Por lo que leo, perdiste a un ser querido...
Un abrazo solidario desde Compostela, Nayarit.
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Abel Barba perdon no soy el indicado pero quiero decirles que murio su papa de ricardo
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Raul Aguinaga Esqueda Mi mas. Centido pésame
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Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez Ricardo, mi mas sentido pesame por la muerte de tu amado padre, es un golpe muy duro, deseo sinceramente que dios nuestro señor te de la fortaleza necesaria para soportar esta terrible perdida y que tambien te de la pronta resignacion para aceptar lo que es inevitable, un fuerte abrazo, estamos orando por tu padre.
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Ruben Casillas Ricky,mi mas sentido p[esame,ya sabes que estoy contigo.
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Alberto Dominguez Guerra Mi más sincero pésame Ricardo Rodriguez, te deseo pronta recuperación y recuerda que aunque física mente el ya no esté con ustedes, en el corazón y tu mente estará para siempre!!! Un fuerte abrazo amigo desde tonala jal,
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Roberto De la Paz Ricky mi mas sentido pesame, estoy contigo
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Oswaldo Sevilla Un fuerte abrazo mi estimado a ti y toda tu familia. Y que la familia no sepa de mas penas....
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Adrián Márquez Padilla Mi mas sentido pesame Ricardo Rodriguez, por la sensible perdida, tu padre ha cumplido su misión en este lugar e inicia una nueva espiritual. Su recuerdo lo mantendra vivo por siempre. Recibe un fuerte abrazo.

Castanon in Valparaiso, Zac

Barbara my Castanon line came from Valparaiso, Zac to Jerez, Zac in abt 1750 but I haven't found any records for them before that. I do not have the Gertrudis Castanon you ask abt in my records. I will let you know if I ever find the records for the earlier years in Valparaiso.
Linda Castanon-Long

Walking in Two Worlds

I've been reading through some of the wonderful posts in regards to struggling with speaking Spanish and the challenges of living in two cultures , just some thoughts ;

I grew up in the U.S. in a small mining town located in southeastern Arizona . When my father's family left the villa in Los Altos , they settled in Miami and Jerome Arizona. He came to the states when he was just 2 years old. All of the men in my fathers family were miners, as was my father when he returned to AZ after a stint in the military. My father's first language at home was Spanish, he said he really didn't start speaking English until after he began elementary school. He knew first hand the challenges of not being able to speak english well so he always stressed to my sister and I how important it was to know BOTH languages, it was he said , to our benefit to know more than one language and he was right.

The trouble was, growing up in the Southwest the early 70's, we were not allowed to speak Spanish at school. If you did, you got a trip to the principle's office, or sent home...sad but all too true. We still spoke it at home, but as we continued in school and made non Spanish speaking friends, we used it less and less. That was my first brush with the idea that there was an US and a THEM. Many of you can relate to this I'm sure. Growing up in the States I was just like any other American kid, I listened to Rock and Roll, not corridas , had long hair and loved hot rods. I played football not soccer . Although I loved to hear stories about my family history , I knew nothing of Los Altos...it was another world to me. Many of my friends were in the same boat, some of our familes had been in the US for three or more generations. My mother's people were some of the first settlers in the Tucson area, before Arizona was even a state, who had the right to tell me I didn't belong ? We kidded each other in Spanglish...mixing both languages, a hybrid, just like the culture we were growing up in. Back then there was no lable like Hispanic, or even worse, Latino...if you were a Mexican American , you were a Chicano or, if you came from Spanish stock like we did, you were a Hispano, which is a Southwestern term to denote ties to Spain, not a Spanish version of Hispanic.

My home town is 8 or so miles from the Mexican frontera of Sonora. As my friends and I entered high school, we came into contact with other kids who lived right on the border of Sonora and AZ in a small town called Naco. These kids roots were in Sonora proper, their familes were in the US for maybe a genration at the most, they still had strong ties to Mexico and towns like Agua Prieta , Hermosillo and Nogales. Once again I got a taste of US and THEM. We were told by some, not all, that we were not Mexicans, we were pochos, we were lost people who's parents sold out and wanted to be gringos. It had nothing to do with a difference of appearence,it had everything to do with the side of the border you happened to be born on...you were from Mexico or el otro lado, the motherland or the other side, and there was no way to change it, period.

So not only did we have challenges in the Anglo world , constant reminders that we were different . Things like not being able to go swimming at the local Elk's Club pool, or not being able to date certain non Mexican girls, even though many of us, myself included ,were constantly confused with being anything but Mexican because of our light skin . We also had to deal with what I call reverse racism, from other Mexicans who felt we didn't have the right to call ourselves Mexicans , not all of them of course, I must stess this, but to a good amount of Mexicanos we were just pochos.

That is what put me on the path to learning about my family's roots, I was no longer content with what I learned from text books, none of it fit...and forget about movies or pop culture ! To this day everyone with a Spanish surname in a movie is either the bad guy or the girl that gets bedded by the Anglo hero, it's getting better, but not by much. I came to understand totally why people do family research, why I do research... to find MY ancestors. The group that I belong to and cannot deny me entry by right of blood, WHO EVER and WHAT EVER they were...is what I AM.

LINAJE MOCTEZUMA

HOLA AMIGOS Y AMIGAS

INTERESADOS EN ESTA INVESTIGACION DE LOS PADRES DE PETRONILA DE MOCTEZUMA
ALGUIEN SABE O A ENCONTRADO EL DOCUMENTO DONDE PODRIAMOS COMPROBAR QUE DIEGO ARIAS DE SOTELO Y LEONOR VALDERRAMA Y MOCTEZUMA SON LOS PADRES LEGITIMOS DE PETRONILA DE MOCTEZUMA ESPOSA DE MARTIN GABAY NAVARRO?

ALGUNA NOTICIA O AVANCES DE ESTA INVESTIGACION SOLO NOS FALTA ESTA PIEZA

VAMOS A AYUDARNOS UNOS CON OTROS AMIGOS

ESTE LINK MENCIONA A MARTIN NAVARRO Y PETRONILA DE MOCTEZUMA
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18377-19894-49?cc=1874591&wc…

este documento es el bautismo de una hija de dicha pareja que data de 1553 , el link es el siguiente:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-9758-14785-61?cc=1615259&wc=…

y en este link es el matrimonio de Cristóbal de Sotelo Valderrama con doña Juana Patiño de Heredia en 1594 este es el link
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17760-104704-6?cc=1615259&wc…

EN ESTE LINK LA TRANSCIPCION DE LA COMFIRMACION DE OFICIO DE DIEGO ARIAS DE SOTELO
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/21997

este es el link donde puedes descargar la confirmación de oficio de diego arias sotelo
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=100

ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO
SALUDOS A TODOS

BUENAS NOCHES

Arquelles Surname of Zacatecas?

Hi! I never realized this. But my woman partner is from the city of Zacatecas. Her family have a friend named "Tomas Arguelles" who resides in the City of Zacatecas but he is from "Monte Escobedo" near Mezquitic, Jalisco

I remember people in nuestros ranchos telling me about the Arquelles Family of Zacatecas after I had posted that I found a defunto record of Don Fernando Arquelles Natural Del Principal de Asturias 1797 who passed away at our village of Huejuquilla.

Now I am curious about my pareja's family friend "Tomas Arquelles" I know him in person when I have been with my woman's family of Zacatecas. He has a facebook page. The Arquelles of Zacatecas...are the upper class families there. My woman's family of the city of Zacatecas are friends with them.

Since he is from Monte Escobedo....seems his long ago ancestors were in the same area as my GGGGGGG Grandfather Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709) and Maria De La Candelaria (1655 - 1735) at Minillas.

"I need help from someone please in that you can you tell me what it means when this person that I found in Defuntos in our village of Huejuquilla, Jalisco Mexico in the year 1797.

Says "Don Fernando Arquelles Natural Del Prinicipal De Asturias"

What does it say or mean about Asturias? I have no relation to him but just curious.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2jdjkev.jpg

Source:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18449-54312-19?cc=1874591&wc…

Has anyone been hit with the geneology bug? I am doing lots of research now I got hit with the geneology bug."

Sanchez Banales y Alcaras and Familia Tagle and Familia Castellanos y Mendoza

My Dearest Nuestro Ranchos Familia,
I am desperate for guidance; does anyone know about these families in
Mexico during the colonial times. They are in our family trees but I cannot
find anything out.

Juan Sanchez Banales married to Catalina De Alcaraz around 1600

Garcia Tagle early 1700's

Joseph Antonio Castellanos married to Mariana Mendoza around 1700.

I have finally reached my witts end. If you know anything please shoot my
way.

Ser Luz,
Elizabeth Acevedo
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i agree interesting information I KNOW esparza is of navarro descent.

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Defunto of My GGGGGGG Grandmother Maria De La Candelaria (1735) wife of Antonio Madera

First of all I want to give so much thankfulness to a good friend Ruben of nuestrosranchos for locating this difunto record of my GGGGGGG Grandmother Maria De La Candelaria (1655 - 1735) who is the wife of my GGGGGGG Grandfather Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709?). They were at Minillas of Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico.

This is a copy of the defunto record found on page 43 of "Defunciones (1712 - 1770)" on the LDS Records of San Juan Bautista Church of Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/6iws2f.jpg

Says she passed away in 1735 at the age of 80 wife of Antonio Madera. Made a testamento before La Justicia De La Jurisdicion at "Monte Escobedo"

Note: Monte Escobedo is a small village way up on the mountain that overlooks the whole valley. When your up there at Monte Escobedo, the panoramic view you have, Mezquitic looks like a tiny cluster of buildings in the open field and the valley.

Says, "tenia la edad de arriba de ochenta anos que fue la mayor accidente y recidia en la lavor de Minillas"

Seems she was older than 80 years since the comment "arriba de ochenta anos" but I don't understand what is meant by "que fue la mayor accident"

Thank you all so much and I have so much gratitude to nuestroranchos members for the invaluable information you have provided me with finding generations farther back.

Transcripción completa de la "Confirmación de Oficio: Diego Arias de Sotelo" (1559)

Transcripción completa de la "Confirmación de Oficio: Diego Arias de Sotelo" (1559)

Archivo completo también en http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21996
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Source: http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=3&tx…

CONFIRMACION DE OFICIO: DIEGO ARIAS DE SOTELO
Archivo General de Indias,MEXICO,169,N.34 - 1

Código de Referencia: ES.41091.AGI/22.10.169//MEXICO,169,N.34

> Archivo General de Indias
>> Gobierno
>>> Audiencia de México
>>>> Expedientes de confirmaciones de oficios vendibles
>>>>> CONFIRMACION DE OFICIO: DIEGO ARIAS DE SOTELO
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mill pesos Reales

Francisco de ledesma Secretario de Su magestad dize que en la ciudad de mexico ha Vacado vn regimiento por fin y muerte de bernardino Vazquez de tapia y que en aquella tierra reside diego arias de sotelo su cuñado El qual esta casado en ella con hija de conquistadores suplica a Vuestra alteza haga merced del dicho regimiento al dicho diego arias de Sotelo su cuñado pueda e concurren en su persona las calidades neçesarias para ello . . . Fran.co de ledesma (rúbrica).
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1559 - el Secretario ledesma

Francisco de ledesma

que la Ynformación de la calidad y abilidad y hedad de su persona

Al Señor licenciado Castro

que se le de
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[Imagen Núm: 3 / 14]

En la muy noble Villa de Valladolid a treinta dias del mes de Junio año del nasçimiento de nuestro Saluador Jesucristo de mill e quinientos e çinquenta e nuebe años ante el señor licenciado tapia de las heras teniente De co-Regidor en la dicha Villa e su tierra e jurisdicción por el muy magnífico señor Lope de almendariz corregidor e Juez de Residençia en ella Por su magestad y en presençia de mi Francisco de herrera escriuano de su magestad e del mi mero de la dicha Villa e de los testigos de yu so escritos pareçio Presente Juan lopez de la Rrinçar estante en esta corte en nombre e como Procurador que se dixo ser de Diego Arias de Sotelo Vezino de la çiudad de mexico de la nueba España que es en las Yndias del mar Océano e dixo Que el Dicho En parte tiene neçesidad de hazer ynformaçión por testigos de su hedad e limpieça e abilidad e su efiçiençia para ser probeído de un ofiçio de Regimiento de la dicha çiudad de mexico e porque en esta corte doy testigos de quien se puede aprobechar para lo suso dicho pidió al señor teniente los mande Recibir e dárselo signado y en pública forma para so presentar ante su magestad lo ante quien con derecho deba e a ello ynterponga su autoridad e decreto judiçial e sobre todo pidió justiçia e para la dicha Ynformaçión nombro y presento por testigo al señor francisco de ledesma Secretario de Su magestad e al licenciado Gerónimo Delgadillo a el de los hijodalgo en esta Real audiençia e chançilleria e a hernando delgadillo criado de Su magestad Real e a bernardino belazquez de arellano estantes en esta corte e para perdon de los testigos fuesen preguntados e hesaminados presentó un ynterrogatorio del tenor siguiente:
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Por las preguntas siguientes sean preguntados los testigos que se presentasen por parte de Diego de Arias de Sotelo, Vezino de la çiudad de méxico que es en las Yndias e probincia de la nueba España. ----
I. Primeramente Sean preguntados si conocen al dicho Diego Arias de Sotelo e si conocieron al capitán Antonio de Sotelo e Uzenda nuñez, su mujer, padre y madre del dicho Diego de Sotelo. ----
II. Yten si sauen [ ] Que el dicho capitán Antonio de Sotelo e la dha Vzenda nuñez fueron casados e velados a ley e bendiçion de la Santa Madre Yglesia y estando casados e haciendo vida maridable de consuno Vbieron por su hijo legítimo y natural al dicho Diego de Sotelo e por tal su hijo es abido e tenido e comúnmente reputado. ----
III. Yten se saben [ ] Que el dicho Diego de Arias de Sotelo es hombre hijodalgo de sangre notoria de solar conocsçido de bengar Quinientos sueldos según fueron de España e por tal abido e tenido e comunmente respetado ----
IIII. Yten si saben [ ] que el dicho Diego Arias de Sotelo es de hedad de treinta y tres o treinta y quatro años y es casado y velado e Vezino en la dicha ciudad de México e allí reside con su mujer e hijos. ----
V. Yten si saben [ ] en el dicho Diego Arias de Sotelo tiene muchos bienes e hazienda en la dicha çiudad de México e sus comarcas e es uno… ----
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De los más honbres honrrados y prinçipales que ay en la dicha çiudad e probinçia a Digan lo que saben. ----

Pérez de Alencastre, Origen.

Hola a todos, primeramente que nada les deseo un feliz año.

Ahora en vacaciones tuve la oportunidad de retomar mis investigaciones genealógicas, extender algunas ramas y obtener pistas para algunas otras.

Una familia que me inquieta por lo que recientemente descubrí es la de los Pérez de Alencastre de Jalisco, concretamente de Tecolotlán de la cual posiblemente alguno de ustedes desciende.

El primero de este apellido por una rama fue Don Diego Pérez de Alencastre, casado con Doña María Ruiz de Contreras, allá por los últimos años del siglo XVII. Este Diego pienso yo que es hijo de Manuel Antonio Enríquez o Pérez de Alencastre, esposo de Juana Beltrán Dorantes, de quien de todos modos desciendo por su hija Angela, esposa de Don Juan Fregoso.

Ahora bien, lo más curioso del asunto es que los portadores del apellido Alencastre, todos descienden de un hijo natural pero reconocido del Rey Juan II de Portugal, que se llamó Jorge de Lencastre, en honor al apellido de su bisabuela Doña Felipa de Lancaster, nieta del Rey Eduardo III de Inglaterra. De este Jorge de Lencastre descienden todos los Lencastre y Alencastre, que es la versión hispanizada. Un ejemplo es el virrey de la Nueva España, Fernando de Alencastre Noroña y Silva.

Para Manuel Antonio Enríquez o Pérez de Alencastre, quien debió nacer por 1600's significa que lo separan unos 120 años del fundador de su apellido ya que Jorge de Lencastre nació en 1471 y falleció en 1550. Al principio me pareció un poco ilógico que siendo perteneciente de dicha familia, seguramente sería hijo o por lo menos nieto de algún duque y las razones por las cuales se encontraba en Jalisco se me harían extrañas, pero debido a que esto ha sucedido también con otros antepasados de origen muy noble, creo que este puede ser otro caso. El linaje de mi antepasado seguramente debe de estar registrado, incluso encontré un Manuel de Alencastre hijo de Don Alvaro de Alencastre y Enríquez y de la IV duquesa de Avero Doña Juliana de Alencastre y Téllez Girón del cual no se tienen más datos sólo figura su nombre entre sus vástagos, pero hasta el momento no he hallado más datos que me sugieran como está conectado a Jorge de Lencastre, lo que sí es que definitivamente lo está.

Espero alguien me pueda dar alguna pista o dato al respecto.

Enrique Agraz

López de Velarde

Hello,

Is there anyone in the forum that has information on Margarita López de
Velarde that's married to Antonio Alonso de Los Ynojos. I have Antonio
Alonso de Los Ynojos ancestry for several generations but, I can't locate a
marriage or any information on Margarita López de Velarde. I'd like to know
her parents if anyone has that information.

Paige

Re Lopez de Valverde

Hello Paige, I know the feeling. Where from exactly? I could keep an eye
for you.

Elizabeth
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Questions Pares and Inquisition Records for Ruiz de Esparza

I have two questions. First, does anybody know if the Pasajeros a Indias information that appears in the Pares search engine is complete? I saw a reference to a person as appearing in the Pasajeros books, but when I looked him up on Pares, he wasn't there.

Second, a friend gave me a list of surnames of people investigated by the Inquisition, and the surname Ruiz de Esparza is there. It occurred to me that the surname is there because of the "prueba" that was done on Lope Ruiz de Esparza in Aguascalientes (the one that mentions Petronila de Moctezuma as his wife's ancestor). Whoever put together that list must have a source for the Ruiz de Esparza surname occurring on it. I think it was prepared by John Schmal and was being circulated in the Genealogia de Mexico group (Google groups). Maybe this can help us track down the Limpieza de Sangre for Lope Ruiz de Esparza.

Alice

codices of Mexico

One of La Senora Research Institute Academic Fellow is an expert on these
Codices. Dr. John Pohl is his name. When Mexico was celebrating its 150th
year John got the Museo to mount a major exhibition at the Getty. It was
phenomenal and John walked around our Patron Members Small Group Tour and
explained everything that was in the exhibit. But it was LACMA's exhibit
on Quatzequatel a few months later that most pertained to the Codices.
There are very, very few copies in existence....John was able to get the
Bodleian Library at Oxford to loan their copy because they said his
exhibit was the very first time the Codices had ever been displayed in the
context of what they meant.
If there's a serious interest in the Codices on the part of enough of you,
I could arrange for Dr. Pohl to come to LA and give a talk on this. Our
theater/auditorium seats 55 people. It would not be until Spring as La
Senora remains 'dark' during the winter months so that we have time to do
additional research. Right now we are hard at work on Jose Mojica re: both
his time in Santa Monica California and after he built his mother Villa
Santa Monica in San Miguel de Allende and founded the orphanage there.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:09 PM,
wrote:

Research Question for Aguascalientes Family

Is anyone familiar with the names Antonio de la Paz Tinoco and Ana de Luera from Aguascalientes. Circa 1680 to 1740

I am trying to find out who their parents were.

Their children were:

Maria Gertrudis de la Paz 1727 (married Jose Sipriano Limon)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZVQ-7BP

Francisco de la Paz Tinoco 1729
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N8P1-SDM

Ana de la Paz Tinoco 1732
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N8PB-Y3P

Eugenio de la Paz 1737 (married Ma Ciriaca Flores)
Ysabel Benedicta de la Paz 1737

Feliciano de la Paz abt 1745 (married Ma Rosalia Navarrete and Ma Gertrudis Catano)

I noticed on two of their children they also have surname "Tinoco" I found a another person in Aguascalientes Joseph Manuel Paz Tinoco and wondered if this is his brother. They mentioned parents Carlos Martin Paz Tinoco and Mathiana Gonzales Cortes. The image on right hand side, second item to this link.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13029-90008-34?cc=1502404&…

Do any of you know if there is any relation between Antonio Paz Tinoco and Carlos Paz Tinoco??

Thank You
Ruben

Possible Presentation on Codices of Mexico

There was a posting that asked whether there would be interest in hearing a presentation by Dr. John Pohl about the codices. My answer is an emphatic yes! I've always found the codices fascinating and would love to hear an expert explain what they mean. Are there around 50 members in the L.A. area who would be interested, as well? Please speak up, people!

Many years back I was in a bookstore and found a book about an Aztec codex. The first page of the actual codex was dedicated to a Viceroy Hurtado de Mendoza. I was later told by another researcher that the viceroy had a half-sister named Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza, who appears in the genealogy of many people from the Los Altos area. Although I have never been able to substantiate this claim, it left me very intrigued. The researcher who shared that information with me could not remember who had shared that information with him.

Alice

Fulgencio Hermosillo Cornejo

To Marco Xavier Hermosillo

I just read your genealogy report on Fulgencio Hermosillo Cornejo. In my records he has two more siblings, Anacleta and Jose de Jesus.

Anacleta Hermosillo Cornejo was married to Pedro Rodriguez. They had a son named Roque Rodriguez who worked in Real Estate and was a partner in the Roque and Mark Real Estate Company in Santa Monica, California. roque married his third cousin through the Perez and Franco lines. Roque passed away before I was in junior high school. My main memories of him are when he showed houses to my family when I was 6 and 7 years old It was exciting to see him because it meant we were going to check out a possible future home. He helped us buy the home when I was 7. I did see him after that but not often. his wife, my aunt, is still alive. my contact with the family increased in high school and I have always been close to my aunt.

Fulgencio and his siblings are twice second cousins to my maternal grandmother through the Perez and Franco lines.

I have a lot of information to add to Fulgencio's ancestors:
On your Hermosillo line, I have the parents of the spouse as you go back each generation.
On your Vallejo, Cornejo, and Perez lines I have way too much information to post here. These are my family lines and I have over 35 years of research to provide.

Trijio Hermosillo Vallejo's parents, Antonio Hermosillo Garcia and Maria Ysabel Vallejo Perez married 25/oct/1854 in Jalostotitlan, Jal.

Antonio's mother is Maria Dolores Garcia Lomelin baptized 19/April/1787 in zapotlan del Rey Jalisco,
Dolores's parents are Juan Joseph Antonio Garcia and Maria josefa Lomelin

Jose Leocadio Hermosillo's mother Maria Antonia de anda Ortiz is the daughter of Jose de Anda and Juliana Ortiz

the rest of the info on your other lines I will provide through mail or even better in person where we can discuss your second cousins, Roque's children, who live in Santa Monica and Texas. your second cousin that lives in Texas is an executive with IBM and has a daughter that is on the Mexican national woman's soccer team. Two of your second cousins, like their father, work in real estate. One of them owns Tierra realty co. One of your second cousins was born weeks after his father passed away and never knew him. One member of the family is an actor and worked as a mascot for a professional team, I forget which team.
They will be happy to hear that I found a family member from their father's side.
R.A. Ricci

Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Southern California Chapter 1st Meeting Reminder

If you are planning to attend our first meeting of the NGGS So Cal chapter, please email us at nggssocal@nuevagalicia.org so we can arrange appropriate seating for everyone.

If you would like a copy of the informational flyer and agenda, just send us a request at the previously mentioned email address.

The first meeting will be held on October 18th from 11 am until 2 pm at the History Room of the Santa Ana Public Library.

Rosalinda