An Unsolved Mystery.
a Estados Unidos para que aprendiera bien el inglés, el hijo se fue a una de las mejores escuelas de allá, al poco tiempo el padre le habla
The translations below - because of the way they are written and the way they sound, seem to
come from a web translator. My translator translates that way. of course I do better but what's below gets the meaning across. I had no problem understanding it. I rather admire the principal fact that JRGL is brave enough and puts out the effort to communicate with us any way he can.Elvira
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The Salt Lake City Hispanic Conference will be on Saturday,
Oct 14, 2006. So far I have 11 people who have expressed an interest in going. Mickey Garcia and I are planning to arrive in SLC on Sunday, Oct 8th and stay until the following Sunday, Oct 15th.....anyone who wants to go can stay as long or as little as they want.....the room rate remains the same for however number of days you stay. I wish
I could attend your next meeting in March 2006 but I have to be in Switzerland for the arrival of my newest grandchild in April. Mickey and I have discussed going to one of your gatherings.......one thing about us....we are always ready to go when it concerns genealogy! :-) I will
keep everyone posted on any information I receive on the SLC trip. Josie
in San Antonio From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:59 PM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ranchos] SLC2006?/Re |
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The translations below - because of the way they are
written and the way they sound, seem to come from a web translator. My translator translates that way. of course I do better but what's below gets the meaning across. I had no problem understanding it. I rather admire the principal fact that JRGL is brave enough and puts out the effort to communicate with us any way he can. Elvira
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Estimado Jose:
Con todo respeto y admiracion lo felicíto y
admiro su gran esfuerzo al tratar de comunicarse con el grupo Ranchos en Inglés, pero lamentable y aparentemente, comete varios errores. Permitame que le traduzca al Español lo que usted escribió en Inglés en su mensaje dirigido a Emilie. Estoy seguro que al leer las correcciones, va a estar de acuerdo en que "eso no era lo que yo quería decir" . Dentro del grupo hay varios miembros que saben
leer en Español con diferente grados de experiencia, pero tambien hay muchos que no saben ni leer ni escribirlo, se comunican unicamente en Inglés. Por favor no valla a tomar éste comentario a mal,
es solo un comentario. No deje de seguir practicando el Inglés, es muy importante, lo que si le recomiendo es que haga un pequeño esfuerzo para aprenderlo un poquito mejor. Sinceramente, su amigo y compañero en la
Genealogia: John Gonzalez (El Metiche)
Wildomar, California.
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absolutely great. . .I only wish I could be close by so I could attend. |
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Thank you Emilie for talking about this subject. I find it heartwarming that so many group members are willing to share their 'extra' help in finding the records for our ancestors. People who don't do genealogy find our passion for finding ancestors strange. My sister said I am a genealogy addict, I told her I was just passionate about finding all those who got me here in this day and time. There are times when I don't get much sleep because of dreams that ultimately open doors to more lines or names. In doing records I find it's much easier to find the Spanish ancestors than the Indio or Mulato lines due to a lack of last names sometimes. I found that my Espanol ancestor Guadalupe Mendez married a Mulato woman, Francisca Valencia in 1833. Francisca haunted my dreams until I decided to pursue her lines. I took her Rolon ancestor back to about 1660 and found them in and out of slavery. I was proud when they were free in 1680 and inslaved again in 1715 with my "love
This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:"For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan
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okay have a look now. I only left the last two links and deleted the
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This is
an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:"For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are
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This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife
Federation Newsletter: "For reasons not fully understood, millions of
North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are approximately five generations removed from those that left Mexico the previous spring.....how monarchs are able to locate the same forest ecosystem year after year without having been there before remains an unsolved biological mystery". When I read this, I had also just read about the same phenomenon in a book
called "Psychic Roots", except that they said it took about eight generations for the butterflies to make the round trip. Talk about serendipity! Are we like those butterflies? What is it that calls us to locate the
records of our ancestors from eight generations past when we have not been where they lived? |
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes
> here is a picture of the Sacramento Ranchos Meet up. Not everyone in the
> picture is a Ranchos Member but there were 8 members present:
> if any others of those attending want to do a write up of the event
> would be great.
I drafted an agenda for our next meeting in March 2006. I can e-mail you that and if you think others would be interested you can post it to the group. Overall, I think it turned out very well. We had a good turnout and the group may grow. I've had others express an interest in attending the next meeting.
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> joseph
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> ps: maybe next time you get together you can try to plan it around when
> Debra Ortiz is in Sacramento.
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I did neglect inviting Deborah to this meeting, but have since e-mailed her and invited her to the next meeting. She lives here in town, so she wouldn't have to travel. However, she is a busy lady.
Maria
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Joseph, the last two entries on my list of links are the correct ones, the ones titled "Garcia-Cervantes" and "Olague-Tinajero [Felix]". The other entries above them are duplicates and can be deleted since those are the links you entered some time ago and are for the same trees. Thanks, Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA --
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Thank you, Joseph,
I will keep updating both my husband's Garcia-Cervantes lines and my
Olague-Tinajero [Felix] lines in World Connect. I added some information yesterday to my husband's tree, and today I found another generation back and I will be updating his tree again to include that new info later. One thing I am finding when searching the Garcia-Cervantes lines is that
there are duplicate records for some ancestors in the IGI. Some entries are from the officially transcribed original records and the duplicates say "Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number". The information on these submitted by the LDS member are off from the original transcription by a year or by a month, etc. What happened here? The LDS member seems to have ignored the info in the original |
Marge: That history of Monte Escobedo is what got me on Leonardo de la Torre's trail. It is very interesting because many of the heirs took on the name Covarrubias, who were prolific among the few Spanish families that were in the Totatiche area in the 17th Century and it looks like a lot of the land that was owned by Francisco Escobedo was around Totatiche. I think there are references to el Rio Guajuquilla, which I have found out from other sources is today called the Rio Cartagenas which runs through Totatiche. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazzawrote: > > http://www.monteescobedo.com/historia/fundacion/fundacion01.htm - tells > the history of the Escobedo family and of the town founded by the first > immigrant. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cafara/MemProfile.html - tells about a > Dominguez family emigrating to El Paso...pretty interesting stuff. > > Just cut and paste the website address or copy it. Enjoy! Marge:) >
http://www.monteescobedo.com/historia/fundacion/fundacion01.htm -tells
the history of the Escobedo family and of the town founded by the first
immigrant.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cafara/MemProfile.html - tells about a
Dominguez family emigrating to El Paso...pretty interesting stuff.
Just cut and paste the website address or copy it. Enjoy! Marge:)
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"wrote: > > > What follows is Don Leonardo's webpage: > http://club.telepolis.com/jerz/index_archivos/marabr/index.htm I had seen the above website earlier when it was still undergoing construction. A recent contribution to the site, http://club.telepolis.com/jerz/index_archivos/marabr/algo.htm, reviews the history of the researcher's family, del Hoyo y Landa. Señor del Hoyo is an associate of the much previously discussed genealogy researcher Leonardo de la Torre. I think he does a good job with the history. For my purposes, the article is interesting because the Valparaiso haciendas discussed by del Hoyo were later owned by my Felguerez family after 1850. Of course, after the Mexican revolution, the great majority of these haciendas were lost and presently are only empty shells of what they once were. When I went to Zacatecas in April I took pictures of the Hacienda de San Mateo de Valparaiso that is
What an attractive group of people! Marge:)
On Dec 8, 2005, at 6:05 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/RANCHOS/Pictures/SactoMeetUp_Vallejo_Res…
here is a picture of the Sacramento Ranchos Meet up. Not everyone in the
picture is a Ranchos Member but there were 8 members present:
Standing left to right Robert Hernandez - member
Anthony & Yvonne Beltran
Rich and Kitty Cortez - members
Anna Arellano Smith (wife of Jose Muñoz - member)
Marvin & Jennie Hernandez Gin
Seated left to right
Helyn Castaneda Sparkman - member
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo - member
Irma Gomez-Lucero - member
Maria E. Uhlenburg-Gutierrez - member
Maria E. Cortez - member
if any others of those attending want to do a write up of the event
would be great.
joseph
ps: maybe next time you get together you can try to plan it around when
Debra Ortiz is in Sacramento.
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