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Hello,
This is my first time here. My name is Del.
I am very glad to be a member of this group.
The names that I am researching are: Paula RAMOS born 1-29-1876 in AGUASCALIENTES, married Guadalupe MARTINEZ born 1873 possibly ZACATECAS, Mexico. They married in 1899 possibly ZAC. ZAC., Mexico. They lived in these areas; JALISCO, AGUASCALIENTED, ZACATECAS, CALIFORNIA.
Other surnames reseaching: MASCORRO maiden name of Paula's mother, REYES, VASQUEZ, RODRIGUEZ all related somehow.
Any information please email me at deljmar99@webtv.net Gracias!

Joseph Puentes,
I noticed that these films are shown in the FILMS section here at NuestrosRanchos and I was wondering if and when they would be available for us to research them here.

Burials 1785-1818 443797 Joseph Puentes
Burials 1832-1849 443793 Joseph Puentes
Death 1718-1801 443791 Joseph Puentes; Arturo Ramos
Death 1801-1832 443792 Joseph Puentes

Here is an inexpensive way to view this book at your local family history center. Fiche cost 15 cents per page and these two volumes are on 15 individual fiche sheets. I haven't read it but it looks like it goes into some detail about Zacatecas history. If you are interested order a copy for your family history center:

Title
Bosquejo histórico de Zacatecas

Stmnt.Resp.
por Elías Amador

Authors
Amador, Elías (Main Author)

Notes
Microfiche del original impreso en Zacatecas : Pedroza, 1892?
La Biblioteca tiene solamente los primeros dos tomos, fotocopiados en un volume.
The Library has only the first two volumes, filmed as one volume.
Contenido: t. 1. Desde los tiempos remotos hasta el año de 1820 -- t. 2. Desde el año de 1820 al de 1857.
History of Zacatecas, Mexico.

Subjects
México, Zacatecas - History

Format
Manuscript (On Fiche)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1992

Physical
15 hojas de microfiche ; 105 mm.

Subject Class
972.43 H2

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Bosquejo Histórico de Zacatecas - FHL INTL Fiche [ 6030603 ]

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Se puede buscar en el libro de la Sagrada Mitra solo con nombres? O se necesitan las fechas? Necesito ayuda con estos matrimonios que seguramente fueron a finales de 1700's o a principios de 1800's:

Help :-)

Gracias!!

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Can you research in the Sagrada Mitra book using names only? Or do you need dates? I need help with the following marriages that surely took place at the end of the 1700's or at the beginning of the 1800's.

Help :-)

Thanks!!

1)
Bruno Gonzalez
Maria Prudencia Castaneda

2)
Jose Serapio Hernandez
Casimira Orozco (or Muñoz)

3)
Juan Maria Benites
Maria Antonia Ortega

4)
Juan Manuel Navarro
Maria Vasquez

5)
15 feb 1722, Nochistlan, Zac
Nicolas de Loza
Maria de Mercado

6)
22 Oct 1747, Nochistlan, Zac
Nicolas de Loza
Maria Gertrudis Rodriguez

7)
Luis Castaneda
Maria Benita Ochoa

8)
Juchipila, Zac
Calisto Samaniego
Lina Salazar

9)
Jose Rito Rodriguez
Manuela Banuelos

10)
Sixto Enriquez
Manuela Reynoso

11)
Manuel Rubalcaba
Francisca Obiedo

I've done no research in this area and was wondering if possibly someone
in the group might recognize some of these names:

Descendants of Estanislado Marquez

Generation No. 1

1. ESTANISLADO1 MARQUEZ died Bet. 1960 - 1964 in Santa Paula, CA. He
married TEODORA JIMENEZ, daughter of SRA. MARQUEZ. She was born in
maybe El Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco, Mexico, and died January 1945 in
Santa Paula, CA.

Child of ESTANISLADO MARQUEZ and TEODORA JIMENEZ is:
i. MATEO2 MARQUEZ, b. 21 September 1898, Ajiji, Jalisco, Mexico;
d. 15 November 1966, Santa Paula, CA; m. JUANA GARCIA; b. 22 October
1905, Jaen, Jaen, Spain; d. 27 December 1997, Santa Paula, CA.

thanks for any ideas about this genealogy,

joseph

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On Friday, I received the DNA results submitted by my brother to National Geographic. I must admit, I'm a bit disappointed.

I have been following the extraordinary PBS/National Geographic documentary on the DNA research of Spencer Wells, his theory is the world has evolved out of Africa.

As per my report:
The results were Haplogroup R1b1c
The genetic markers that define your ancestral history reach back about 60,00 years of non-African men.

Then the trail ends in Western Europe. I suppose I was hoping the end of the trail would be more specific as Western Europe is such a large area. The report also states "Today, roughly 70 percent of the men in southern England belong to haplogroup R1b. In parts of Spain and Ireland, that number exceeds 90 percent.

I was planning on having my own DNA tested by National Geographic, but now I'm not so sure, if the results are going to be the same, out of Africa, then to Western Europe.

Yesterday, on the Semos Primos site, I read a fantastic story written by Larry Garza. I was intrigued by his findings and sent him an e-mail. Below is the response from Mr. Garza. I have checked out the site he used, and it appears to me more of what I'm looking to achieve.

Dear Helyn,
Thank you for your comments. We had comprehensive DNA testing done through DNA Consultants, Dr. Donald Yates. I chose them because they give a comprehensive analysis with wonderful historical explanation, from my research the best available. You can contact Dr. Donald Yates at www.dnaconsultants.com and look at the various testings they do. Tell him I sent you.
Larry Garza

Well, at least now I have another option.

Helyn
San Jose, CA

Our library has the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, antiguo Obispado de la Nueva
Galicia book by Montejano not available until August.

Could someone lookup the following marriage for me, they are my 6th great
grandparents?

Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

Luis Villasenor married Juana de Aguilar Solorzano

7 Sep 1692

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The family eventually moved to Cocula, Jalisco, MX. Their daughter married
into the Rueda family and my line continues from there

Thanks,
Gloria

Hola a todos:
A la persona que tenga axceso a la Sagrada Mitra de guadalajara y tenga la amavilidad de hacerme el valiosisimo favor de ver la partida de matrimonio entre Antonio Felis,(puede que este como Felix , Belis o Celis ),y Brigida Nuñes ,efectuado el 22 de Julio de 1848 en Mezquital del Oro Zac.Nesecito los nombres de los Padres y Abuelos de Antonio.Se lo agradecere eternamente.Ya que mande pedir el microfilm desde hace 2 meses y ahun no hay esperansas de obtenerlo,busque el libro en la biblioteca de la Universidad de esta localidad y no estara disponible hasta el 17 de Julio de este año.Por eso estoy pidiendo la colavoracion de todos.
Gracias.
Jose luis Felix
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Hi

I am new to the group although I have been doing research for many years. I have been successful with my mothers European ancestry search, but I had no idea how to begin research for my family in Mexico. ( I do not speak Spanish as my father believed we should only speak English)

My grandfather was Salvador Bernal born in Zaceteca Mexico in 1905. His mother (Antonia Cano b1881 in Mexico) brought him and his brother and sister to California, shortly after his birth. His father was Cresencio Bernal and there are many stories about him being a train robber. Antonia Cano's parents were Felipe Cano and Tirburcia Martinez. There is also references to the family having some French heritage through this line.
I do not have any other information on the family. I would appreciate any help as I have no idea where to start looking.

Chris

I want to find the escudo de armas that was granted to a Spanish ancestor by the King of Spain around 1580s. Can someone please help me find the appropriate archivo or whatever. Thanks. Marge V:)

...and I contend that their is no discord between science or the
bible...simply gaps we don't understand....as in genealogy...only educated guesses when
one comes to a dead end of recorded history (and I do underscore HIStory).

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Hi Welester,

Unfortunately all of my Lunas are from the Tlaltenango region, you and I could be related, many of the Lunas from Tlaltenango relocated to other regions. if you discover that they are from that region prior to 1800's send another e-mail, I'll try to hekp you.

Anna A. Smith

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:20:44 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] de Luna

Hi there ,

I have de Luna in my line she was Maria Pasquala de Luna married to Juan de Alvarado thier son Jose Antonio Candelario Alvarado de Luna was my Great great great Grandfather , Candelario was born 10th of Feb.1792 in Saltillo , Coahuila and married Maria Quirina Saldivar Gomez in Villa de Sanitago , Nuevo Leon 26 of Oct 1844 . I don't have any info on Juan or Pasquala such as birth dates , baptisms or marriage dates . If you have any info on them I sure would appreciate it .

Thank you ,
Welester G. Alvarado

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Loulou

What were the population estimates for La Barca, Jalisco in the 1800's, or for the state of Jalisco. I am interested to know how the population explosion of the past 30 years has led to such a lot of different people from other parts of the country. If anybody has any information on Adeleida Lopez Camarena born in La Barca, Jalisco in 1856 please let me know.I also am lloking for the line that include Rosa Garcia and Juan Lopes.

Hello all,

A few weeks ago I posted this question but received no response. Anyone have any info on Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandez from Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan?

Thanks!

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Hola a todos!

Hace unas semanas hice esta pregunta y sigo sin recibir respuesta. Alguien tiene alguna informacion sobre Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandes de Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan?

Gracias!

Maria Luisa Gonzales Hernandes
Christened/Bautizada: 22 Jun 1851 Corazon de Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco

To all those interested in a book of marriage dispensations from
Guadalajara, there is another book called "Index to the Marriage
Investigations of the Diocese of Guadalajara, 1653 - 1750" by Raul Guerra,
Nadine Vazquez and Baldomera Vela Jr., Edinburg, Texas 1989, Library of
Congress catalog card number: 90-93092.

This book is also out of print. I believe it is written in English, but I
don't have a copy. Does anyone out there have one?

Maria

Due to the slow turn around time at Salt Lake for ordering microfilm. I have started to order the documents I need. It takes about 2 weeks to get the copies. I ordered 3 microfilmed rolls and now it's been over 2 months. They are running very far behind....I had heard about 6 months behind.
I first check familysearch.org and obtain the necessary information on the person I want the document on and use form: "Request for Photocopies-Census Records, Books, Microfilm, or Microfiche"

The form can be downloaded from: http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?cat…

The item # is: 31768000

Hope this information is helpful for those who are new or those like me who are inpatient. I still would like to see the film....but I get antsy.

Happy New Month

Rose

Why is this taking so long? I also am awaiting a Roll of Microfilm, and
it is so far 2 months... Thank you Rose for informing us of this option.
I also like looking at the WHOLE film.
Irma Gomez-Lucero
Northern Calif.
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Due to the slow turn around time at Salt Lake for ordering microfilm. I
have started to order the documents I need. It takes about 2 weeks to
get the copies. I ordered 3 microfilmed rolls and now it's been over 2
months. They are running very far behind....I had heard about 6 months
behind.
I first check familysearch.org and obtain the necessary information on
the person I want the document on and use form: "Request for
Photocopies-Census Records, Books, Microfilm, or Microfiche"

The form can be downloaded from:
http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?cata
logId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=13691&langId=-1&cg1=13679&cg2=13689
&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=

The item # is: 31768000

Hope this information is helpful for those who are new or those like me
who are inpatient. I still would like to see the film....but I get
antsy.

Happy New Month

Rose

Yes, people at my family history center have been waiting very long, months
at a time, for films to arrive. But, I hesitate ordering more, because the
last time I did so, they all arrived the same week! In April, I got one I
had ordered back in October, one from December, one from February, and one
just a week before that. Very unpredictable. Yet, I get impatient, too,
and did it again. I have five films I am waiting on now, two on back order
for the past month and a half.
I was told that Salt Lake is not making copies of the films like they were
before, so we are waiting on those copies that are in circulation to be
returned first before the next person can get it, like a public library
system. Still, I can't complain. I am very grateful for the family history
center being available to the public and I just love all the people there.
Someday, it will all be digitized, I have heard. So, in the mean time, I
use my waiting time getting caught up on other things like internet
research, compiling photographs, writing biographies, etc., things that I
don't have time for once the films arrive.
I thank-you, Rose, for letting us know about the other way of obtaining
copies of documents.

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

Hola a Todos compañeros del Foro:

Navegando por internet me encontre una pagina que
me parecio muy interesante sobre la historia del linaje
de los Mendoza, que creo llego a esta la "Nueva España"
y se diseminaron ramas por todo Mexico.

El enlace es el siguiente:

http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/ciencias/depaz/mendoza/sigloxv.htm

--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

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For Felipe and anyone else researching the very tangled web of the much intermarried MICHEL family, here are two more children of Don Pio MICHEL Avila and his wife doña Gabriela:

Rafael MICHEL born about 1855, I haven't found his baptism.
From #655614, Marriage Information, Autlan:
Rafael MICHEL, hijo legitimo de Don Pio MICHEL y Da. Gabriela BECERRA,
con Da. Josefa GONZALEZ, hl de Don Vicente GONZALEZ y Da. Juana MICHEL, ella difunta. In the IGI marriage for Rafael her name is written CONZALEZ.

Also - Maria MICHEL, born about 1861.
From #211994, Civil Marriages, Autlan, 14 May 1876
Zacarias SANTOS, no indigena, 18, soltero, labrador de Ahuacapan; hl de Jose SANTOS y Mauricia VIDRIO, ya finados. Con Da. María MICHEL, no indígena, 15, soltera, hl de Don Pio MICHEL y Gabriela BECERRA que viven.
TESTIGOS: Leocadio RAMIREZ, 39, talabartero [saddler or harness maker]
Ascención RUELAS, 25, zapatero
Porfirio MICHEL, 28, propietario
Felix LISOLA, 35, Jornalero

In 1873 Don Pio MICHEL's occupation was labrador. He was a witness to the second marriage of his cousin Ramon Mariano MICHEL Corona, 70, to Da. Leandra LOPEZ Gutierres, 71. Ramon Mariano's first wife was Da. Jesus ARIAS.

Hope this helps.

Gloria Delgado

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