Family History Centers

I've been recently thinking about ordering certain microfilms from FamilySearch to view them at my local Family History Center. I am new to Family History Centers and therefore I do not know the process of viewing ordered films at a Family History Center. Could anyone explain to me the process of viewing ordered films at a local Family History Center? Do you use computers to view them?

Thanks,
V.Q.C.

Help Reading a 1669 Marriage Record From Lagos de Moreno

I have a marriage record that I'm having a bit of trouble reading. It's the first complete record on the left-hand page on FHL Film 220404, image 466 (the complete link is at the end of this message).

This is the marriage of Juan de Torres Villabana and Fabiana Ximénes de Castro. My interpretation, beginning near the end of the second line of text (slashes indicate line breaks and elipsis in brackets indicates unknown words or phrases):

... el alferes /
Juan de torres [...] de la ciudad de San Luis. con /
lisensia que trato [...] lijitimo [...] hijo lijitimo /
de Juº de torres villabana en [...] /
[...] de San Luis i de dª ysabel [...] con dª fa /
biana Jimenes de Castro donsella ...

and so on; the rest I understand.

I have to say that this particular priest's handwriting is brutal! :-)

Here's the complete link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-22943-14?cc=1874591&wc=12506705

Gracias y salutos,
Lawrence Bouett

Rodriguez De Santana

Hi there every one,

So today I have hit a brick with the ancestor of mine (Fabian Rodriguez Santana) he married 3 time, and in all of three of those marriages Fabians parents are not mentioned at all.I have looked through all the baptism available and found padrinos with the same surname as fabian (Rodriguez Santana)Juan Rodriguez Santana & Gertudis Rodriguez Santana.What can I do next any suggestions?

1)Fabian Rodriguez & Margarita Perez De Gardea
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-50955-59?cc=1410092&wc…

2)Fabian Rodriguez & Bernarda Ramirez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15185-44093-23?cc=1410092&wc…

3)Fabian Rodriguez & Manuela Ximenez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15185-45886-40?cc=1410092&wc…

about the pedro cid caldera(husband of maria carrillo)

i've seen trees state that his parents were hernan gonzales and maria cid caldera. i can't seem to find their marriage record. is there any dispensation connecting him to maria cid caldera. the reason why I ask this is because this pedro cid caldera seem to start having kids in the 1640's. if he was the same pedro cid caldera mention in miguel caldera's will, he would've most likely been in his 60's(or possibly even older) when he got married for the first time with maria carrillo(assuming she was his first wife). normally if someone that old(if they were lucky enough to live that long) was getting married, it was their 2nd, 3rd time etc. getting married.

because of this, i woner if the pedro cid caldera who married maria carrillo might not be the the same pedro who was stated in miguel's will.

sorry for spamming this board with questions related to the cid caldera family. the research i've done on this family has left me with a quite a bit of questions since some parts are quite sketchy(like if miguel and maria are full or half siblings)

i'm a bit confused on this marriage dispensations

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18405-8602-36?cc=1874591&wc=…

i get that pedro cid caldera and his wife had a daughter named josefa who married a jose roman, and their daughter teresa married an luis munoz, and the had a daughter named matiana. the part after is what's confusing. are pedro cid caldera and maria carrillo both francisca's parents, or is only one of them a biological parent of hers. if so, which one is?

General Digest, Vol 85, Issue 3 (Josie T. Trevino)

Hi Josie,

My Cuellar line starts with Antonio de Cuellar and Josepha Macias in the late 17th century in Aguascalientes. Then my it moved to Santa Maria de los Lagos and ended in Encarnacion de Diaz at the end of the 18th century where they stayed until my line came to America (Texas) in 1903. I can send you the whole line if you think it might connect to yours.

Chris

Christopher de Cuellar

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On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:07 PM, general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

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> It really has been. And, I feel I'm a part of something important. And, thanks to Nuestros Ranchos, I feel I'm a part of history. A few months ago, my family tree was just a few people, and now it's growing and growing every day. And, even though I grew up knowing very little about my family, one day, because of this site, I'll be able to pass on to my children their history and heritage and who they are and where they came from. Being a part of this group has filled me with a tremendous amount of pride.
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Christopher,

Where are your ancestors from? I also have the Cuellar line in my genealogy. Thanks!

Josie Trevino Trevino

Thanks Christopher: FW: new member (Joseph Puentes)

Joseph,

It really has been. And, I feel I'm a part of something important. And, thanks to Nuestros Ranchos, I feel I'm a part of history. A few months ago, my family tree was just a few people, and now it's growing and growing every day. And, even though I grew up knowing very little about my family, one day, because of this site, I'll be able to pass on to my children their history and heritage and who they are and where they came from. Being a part of this group has filled me with a tremendous amount of pride.

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Looking for birth record for Jose Ynes Rodriguez born @1866 in Zacatecas, Mexico

Hello, I'm needing help to find Jose Ynes Rodriguez's birth and death record. I found his marriage document in Zacatecas, Mexico on 9 November 1888. He was a shoe maker in Zactecas, Zacatecas. His father is Juan Rodriguez and mother is Franscisca Santos who I am also looking for who were both deceased by 1888. This is the link https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22164-19088-79?cc=1916240…. In a Baptism document of his Granddaughter Rosa Rodriguez their name are listed different as Juan Alva and Fran. Ca Alva. I am not sure why ? Here is the link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15529-94487-18?cc=1410092&wc…. I have search record on Family search but may have over looked them since the writing is sometimes hard to read. Thank you so much, Monica Torres-Rice

Any suggestions?

Hello everyone , sorry i haven't been on here much anymore. We lost my grandmother to cancer In October and had lots of things going on and didnt do too much genealogical work. Anyhow, I finally downloaded a family tree program and put in 1129 relatives BUT, I've wanted to make it public for all my relatives to see. This particular website wants to charge me money to publish the tree?? Anyone want to recommend anywhere I can publish a family tree for free or even somewhere I can make a family site? Thank you very much, Lorenzo Carrillo.

CALVILLO, PONCE, MASIAS, VASQUES MERCADO

While catching up with older postings I came across Christopher's query about the above names, which are all in my line. Here's two more children to add to the family of Francisco Xavier CALVILLO and Maria Micaela MASIAS:

1. Joseph Raphael CALBILLO, c. 1761, wife Maria Josepha MERCADO Gamboa.
She might also be VASQUES del MERCADO?

Child: Jose Miguel CALVILLO, bap 11 May 1803 [name taken from old notes, I'm unable to relocate image #, but entry was from Ags Ags Sag. Film is very out of order.]

2. Maria Gertrudis CALBILLO Masias, born c. 1755, spouse Juan VASQUES-MERCADO Lopes-De Nava, aka Juan MERCADO, born c. 1748

Children:
Maria Victoriana Dolores MERCADO (spouse Joseph Lucas RUIZ ESPARZA)
Maria Gabriela MERCADO ( Joseph Vicente RANGEL)
Joseph Manuel Asencio VASQUES-MERCADO Calvillo (Ma. Dorotea CASTAÑEDA)
Maria Josepha MERCADO (bap 8 Feb 1787; Mex CCrec Ags Ags Sag Bau 1785-1788, Image 163)

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An interesting fact about Juan Nepomuceno VASQUES-MERCADO Lopes-De Nava: When he and Ma. Gertrudis CALBILLO were married 15 Feb 1770 (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1765-1767, Image 99), she was 15, he was 22, and he was already twice a widower.

His first wife, Maria Buenaventura RODRIGUES Contreras, and Juan were married 27 Apr 1767 (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1765-1767, Image 99).

About three months after her death, Juan married his second wife, Maria Fabiana ESPARZA Alonso, while she was on her deathbed, 8 Apr 1769; she died two days after their marriage. (Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag Mat 1767-1771, Image 96). About 8 months later he married Ma. Gertrudis CALBILLO.

If anyone learns more about Francisco Xavier CALBILLO I hope they pass it along to our group. I wonder if he might be part of the difficult and elusive MARTINES-CALBILLO family?

Hope someone finds this additional information useful.

Gloria Delgado

Who's Stuck? Who Doesn't Know Where To Start?

Are you stuck? Are you wondering where to start? Well one good place would be to ask your questions on the research@nuestrosranchos.org list. We might not be able to help but we'll try.

If you are just starting out in genealogy then you need to familiarize yourself with your local Family History Center. Your local FHC is part of the LDS church and is an absolute goldmine of information for Mexican Genealogy and other locations around the world. Go to www.familysearch.org to find your closest location with the best hours to fit your schedule: go to the site and click on "Library" and "Family History Centers" to find your location. Give them a call and pay them a visit. Ask questions about how the center works.

If you know your specific location then go to the familysearch.org site and do a "place search." go to the site and click on "Library" and then on "Family History LIbrary Catalog" and then click on "Place Search" [Note if your location doesn't come up in the results maybe it was too small to support a church in earlier times. In cases like that then go to one of the online maps - Expedia.com is one I use - and see if you can find your location. Then slowly start entering in the towns closest to your location in the "Place Search." Keep doing that until you find a location that gives you some results from the "Place Search."

Once you've found a location you should see something like this:

Place
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete

Topics
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Census
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Civil registration

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

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then you would click on the live links for each to familarize yourself with which films are available.

Under "Church records" you'll see something like this with the film numbers you can then order from your local family history center [note: you can only view the films at the FHC as they cannot be removed from the building]:

Topic
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records

Titles
Registros parroquiales, 1678-1940 / Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Sombrerete, Zacatecas)

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

and if you click on this you'll see the following [note: to see it like this you'll need to click on "See Film Notes" at the top. If you see a film that might be when your relatives lived in that area then that would be the one you would order at the Family History Center:

Title
Registros parroquiales, 1678-1940

Authors
Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Sombrerete, Zacatecas) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo parroquial.
Muchos de los registros incluyen índice.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages, marriage petitions, deaths, and other church records from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Many of the registers include an index.

Subjects
México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1966, 1994

Physical
42 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

research Digest, Vol 12, Issue 23, Miguel Caldera

Linda,

How does one get in touch with Susana Leniski for information on Miguel
Caldera and Maria Cid? Also, do you know what books Phillip
Wayne Powell has published Miguel Caldera besides The Taming of
America's First Frontier (1548-1597).

I have an ancestress by the name of Maria-Anacleta "Cleta" Caldera from
Tepetongo, Zacatecas.

I have not been able to find information about her parents or where
they came from to San Jose de Arroyo Seco de Abajo in Tepetongo.

Elvira

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Help needed- How do I find a will?

Hi everybody,

I have fond out that Juan de Araisa y Medina wrote a will before he died in 1665 in Aguascalientes. Any idea as to how to find it?

Here is the image of the death record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145636-74?cc=1410092…

Thanks!

Hola a todos:

Acabo de averiguar que Juan de Araisa y Media dejó testamento antes de morir en 1665 en Aguascalientes. Su hijo Hernando de Araisa fue uno de sus albaceas. Alguien sabe si hay forma de encontrar el testamento?

Aqui está la imágen de su defunción:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145636-74?cc=1410092…

Muchas gracias!

Sergio

Diaz DeLeon

Researching Diaz De Leon family of Zacatecas (Tlaltenango,Jerez) for my wife,
Maria Hildelissa Olga Diaz De Leon de Wiser of Palo Alto, Ca. Specifically,
Ysidro Diaz De Leon and wife Apolonia Casas of Tlaltenango. Have some
descendents!
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15141

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Does anyone know the place of birth of Diego Gonzalez Hermosillo?

I have two dates of birth 1) 1486 and the other 1525? It may possibly be a father and son situation. I have accessed Google, Red de Antepasados, GeneaNet, etc. and have not found any info on them. Would someone let me know if they have anything on them---I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Ann Marie

Urzúa, López, Díaz, Martínez

Buenas Noches:

Primero que nada les agradezco que me hayan permitido pertenecer a este interesante grupo de investigación genealogía de las áreas mas bonitas de nuestro país. Dice mi padre;
      "Zacatécas es la capital de México y la marcha de Zacatécas es el Himno Nacional" 

En fin, mi área de investigación son los apellidos Urzúa,López, Díaz y Martínez, en los pueblos y ranchos de Ciénega de Mata, Jalisco, Ojuelos,Jalisco, Pinos Zacatecas, La Estrella, Pinos Zacatecas, El Puesto, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Las Papas de Arriba, Jalisco, San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Zacatecas.  

En este momento me encuentro trabajando en lineas anteriores a 1860 padres de Vidal Urzúa cuyo ultimo registro es el casamiento de su Hijo Jesús Urzúa de la Cruz con Petra López Ranguel el Ojuelos, Jalisco  14 de noviembre de 1883.

Agradeceré mucho su consejo...

Estoy a sus ordenes.

Jose Munoz de Nava-Attention-Armando

Hola Armando and Members ,Back in the 15 of march ,2012 I was inquiring about Jose Munoz de Nava married to Micaela Gomez de Mendoza. I don't remember if I answered you about Jose Munoz de Nava being the son of Francisco Munoz de Nava and Leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo. I found a dispensa film# 168374 -year 1743-1754 page # 88 for Antonio Munoz (son of Jose Munoz de Nava and Micaela Gomez de Mendoza) and Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo. Its states that Leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo gave birth/procreated Joseph Munoz de Nava. So far this is the only proof I found.
Ronnie

Sort of Stuck??

Finally i found my grandfathers great grandparents, but like i said i am quite stuck here.So Sebastian Munoz Parents are Cipriano Munoz & Maria Munoz and i can no longer go further than that.What was is stopping me on going further is a marriage doc of a Cipriano Munoz and a Maria Asencion Munoz, it mentions that they are from el monte de los duranes but i thought they were from la jabonera?And is that Cipriano Munoz and that Maria Asencionn Munoz the same parents of my Sebastian Munoz.Can anyone give me some tips on what I can do please.How can i prove that my Cipriano Munoz and Maria Munoz the same ones on that marriage doc?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15697-50488-54?cc=1410092&wc…

Help in Teocaltiche

Hi everyone,

I was wondering whether anyone could help me in locating information on Juan de Medina and Maria Gaitan from Teocaltiche around 1675. I found a baptism record for a child of theirs in 1678 and 1691, both in Teocaltiche, but, I can't seem to find any marriage info or any other information on them. Any information that anyone might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much everyone.

Sincerely,
Christopher de Cuellar

Padilla/Campos

Hello,

My name is Jesús Pedroza, and I am working on my maternal side of our family tree.

My Grandparents were Jesús María Padilla born in San Juan de los Lagos on September 12, 1913 and Josefina Campos born in Miami, Arizona on March 26, 1917.

My grandfather's parents were Eleuterio Padilla and Jovita Padilla

My grandmother's parents were Miguel Campos and Antonia Campos

And they were all born in or around San Juan de los Lagos. That is all I know.

I hope someone can help me. I'd greatly appreciate it!

Hola,

Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, y estoy trabajando en mi lado materno de nuestro árbol genealógico.

Mis abuelos eran María Jesús Padilla nació en San Juan de los Lagos el 12 de septiembre 1913 y Josefina Campos nació en Miami, Arizona el 26 de marzo 1917.

Los padres de mi abuelo eran Eleuterio Padilla y Jovita Padilla

Los padres de mi abuela eran Miguel Campos y Antonia Campos
Y todos ellos nacieron en o cerca de San Juan de los Lagos. Eso es todo lo que sé.

Espero que alguien me puede ayudar. Yo te lo agradecería mucho!

de Pedroza

Hello,

My name is Jesús Pedroza, with assistance of a genealogist we have been unable to find our further ancestors past Santiago de Pedroza who died before July 1656, married to Juana Bautista de Alva and were the parents of Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan de Pedroza and Leonor de Pedroza.

If anyone has any information or can direct me to any important information, I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you!

Hola,

Mi nombre es Jesús Pedroza, con la asistencia de un genealogista no hemos sido capaces de encontrar a nuestros antepasados ​​más pasados ​​de Santiago de Pedroza que murió antes de julio de 1656, casado con Juana Bautista de Alva y fueron los padres de Marcos de Pedroza, Nicolás de Pedroza, Juan Pedroza y de Leonor de Pedroza.

Si alguien tiene alguna información o me puede dirigir a cualquier información importante, se lo agradeceria mucho! ¡Gracias!