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Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

I agree with you Alicia;

My father's cousin, and his wife, had a set of you
can't always tell by looking fraternal twins. The girl
grew up normal, tall, slim, brown eyes with long black
beatiful hair. The boy growth however was cut short,
height under four feet, green eyes, and  bright red
"carrot top" hair. They couldn't figure that one.

I feel some people do not understand what they are
really asking, assuming that it is just a matter of
having similar physical appearance. Sometimes physical
appearance is influenced by environmental factors and
not just genetics.



Jose Munoz


--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:

> I think it would be a mis-conception to make
> assumptions about someone's ancestry based solely or
> mostly on their looks. We all know that our genes go
> very far back and with all the inter-mixing of races
> anything is possible. I have a son who is very dark
> and has a blonde blue eyed son. I have a daughter
> that is not so dark and has beautiful brown

"Ranchos Support Fund"

I see what you're saying.



sure if the interested members want to put their names in to be
considered for membership to the "support committee" that would be
fine. after we get at least 3 persons interested we can take a vote.



joseph



Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Joseph,
 
This is a tough one for us to call being that very few members
have ever met each other and for the most part all we know about each
other is that we are Mexican Ancestry Researchers. We also know that we
like to eat Capirotada, Nopales and Mole. We know that some speak and
read spanish better than others and that some speak no spanish at all
but can read it. We know that some are better at doing their research
and some of us are slower than others.
 
So what do you think we can deduce from this data in terms of
managing money, having good judgement regarding financial needs,
accounting and money distribution.
 
Could we possibly ask the members who might be interested to
submit a brief bio to tell

Los Cuervos?

You're welcome, Alicia...and I don't know about the ancestors of the couple I mentioned.  I simply wondered whether or not you know them.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo 
Sent: Nov 28, 2005 6:47 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Los Cuervos?

David,
 
Thanks for that information regarding the ''Ranchos Los Cuervos.'' That gives me something to go on until this Wednesday when I review the films that have just arrived at my Fremont FHC for the marriage of Prudencio de Olmos and Juana de Jauregui in Nochistlan Zac in the year 1857.
 
Unfortunately I don't know Bernie or Esther Olmos, do you know where their descendants came from?
 
Alicia Carrillo de San Jose Ca

"David P. Delgado"  wrote:
Alicia,

I looked in Garcia Cubas' "Diccionario..." and found three ranchos named los Cuervos.  1. Rancho en la municipalidad de Huejúcar octavo cantón (Colotlán) estado de Jalisco.  2.  Rancho de municipalidad de Tepetongo

Cathedral rededication in Sacramento

 


 

Here is a link to an article that appeared in the Sacramento Bee about the
rededication of the Cathedral in Sacramento, CA that mentions the relics of
Santo Toribio Romo.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---

Toribio Romo & Meeting in Sacramento

I don't see why not as the Cathedral is very close to where the 
meeting will be.  I'm just not sure how long the relics will be 
there.  I guess we can call the Cathedral prior to going.

Maria Uhlenburg

-- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
>
> This coming Saturday is the Ranchos meeting in Sacramento, would 
it be possible to visit the church on Saturday? That would be sooo 
cool!
>  
> Alicia
> 
> "Maria E. Uhlenburg"  wrote:
> Irma,
> The Cathedral in down town Sacramento has just been refurbished 
and 
> from what I understand some of Toribio Romo's ancestor's requested 
> some relics from Guadalajara.
> 
> This is what my sister and aunt told me at Thanksgiving.  I guess 
> there are a lot of Romo's here in Sacramento and they requested 
that 
> one of his bones be sent from Guadalajara to  the Cathedral.  I 
guess 
> they were supposed to have a mass for Santo Toribio Romo this past 
> Sunday at the Cathedral and display some old

Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

I think it would be a mis-conception to make assumptions about someone's ancestry based solely or mostly on their looks. We all know that our genes go very far back and with all the inter-mixing of races anything is possible. I have a son who is very dark and has a blonde blue eyed son. I have a daughter that is not so dark and has beautiful brown eyed, black haired beautiful girls. Looks, eye color and skin color don't always tell the full story.
 
Alicia

Emilie Garcia wrote:
Irma--
 
No, I don't have the surname Romo in my lines.  It is my husband's ancestors, the Garcias, who are light skinned, tall, light haired, and hazel-eyed or blue eyed Tapatios from Jalisco.  The photo of the saint in the article for which I sent a link bears a striking resemblance to my husband, his father, and his great-grandmother, Marciana Cervantes.  I have traced some of the Garcias who married into the Calzada family that were from Rincon de Romos.  My husband's gggg-grandfather

Toribio Romo & Meeting in Sacramento

This coming Saturday is the Ranchos meeting in Sacramento, would it be possible to visit the church on Saturday? That would be sooo cool!

 

Alicia

"Maria E. Uhlenburg" wrote:

Irma,
The Cathedral in down town Sacramento has just been refurbished and
from what I understand some of Toribio Romo's ancestor's requested
some relics from Guadalajara.

This is what my sister and aunt told me at Thanksgiving.  I guess
there are a lot of Romo's here in Sacramento and they requested that
one of his bones be sent from Guadalajara to  the Cathedral.  I guess
they were supposed to have a mass for Santo Toribio Romo this past
Sunday at the Cathedral and display some old relics.

Nena



Toribio Romo

Irma,
The Cathedral in down town Sacramento has just been refurbished and 
from what I understand some of Toribio Romo's ancestor's requested 
some relics from Guadalajara.

This is what my sister and aunt told me at Thanksgiving.  I guess 
there are a lot of Romo's here in Sacramento and they requested that 
one of his bones be sent from Guadalajara to  the Cathedral.  I guess 
they were supposed to have a mass for Santo Toribio Romo this past 
Sunday at the Cathedral and display some old relics.

Nena




Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

Irma--
 
No, I don't have the surname Romo in my lines.  It is my husband's
ancestors, the Garcias, who are light skinned, tall, light haired, and
hazel-eyed or blue eyed Tapatios from Jalisco.  The photo of the saint in
the article for which I sent a link bears a striking resemblance to my husband,
his father, and his great-grandmother, Marciana Cervantes.  I have traced
some of the Garcias who married into the Calzada family that were from Rincon de
Romos.  My husband's gggg-grandfather Cayetano Garcia married Anna Cleta
Calzada.  Marciana Cervantes was descended from Patricio Martines [Martin]
who married Maria Maxima Duron; they were also from Rincon de Romos.  In
between there were Aguirres, Albas, Gonzaleses, Moroneses, Ornelases.  The
closest surname to Romo in my husband's lines is one Roman. 
 
I was just amazed that someone surnamed Romo from Jalostitlan could look so
much like my husband's Garcia-Cervantes family from Encarnacion de Diaz in
Jalisco.  People

Los Cuervos?

David,
 
Thanks for that information regarding the ''Ranchos Los Cuervos.'' That gives me something to go on until this Wednesday when I review the films that have just arrived at my Fremont FHC for the marriage of Prudencio de Olmos and Juana de Jauregui in Nochistlan Zac in the year 1857.
 
Unfortunately I don't know Bernie or Esther Olmos, do you know where their descendants came from?
 
Alicia Carrillo de San Jose Ca

"David P. Delgado" wrote:

Alicia,

I looked in Garcia Cubas' "Diccionario..." and found three ranchos named los Cuervos.  1. Rancho en la municipalidad de Huejúcar octavo cantón (Colotlán) estado de Jalisco.  2.  Rancho de municipalidad de Tepetongo, partido Jerez, estado de Jalisco.  3.  Rancho de municipalidad de Mátape, Distrito de Ures, Sonora.  Hope this helps.

PS: Do you by any chance know a Bernie Olmos or his wife, Esther?  She still works in public schools in ESUHSD and he went out of SJ to continue as an administrator?  Just curious.

David in