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Bobadilla





THANK YOU, THANK YOU....I HAVE SOME FILM AT THE LDS....MAY BE THAT NUMBER!!!



Mickey

April 15, 2005

Hello:



I was so excited...could not even write!!



Thanks, thanks, thanks......



Mickey

San Jose De Llanetes

Looking for San Jose de Llanetes information.  I know that they were 
owned my the Miranda family.  There was also San Miguel de Los 
Puertos.  These are 2 haciendas owned my the Miranda family that my 
family comes from...  Some of the names in my lineage are Ybarra, 
Barrios, Martinez, Magallanes, Rivera, Hernandez, Pinzon.  Any help 
would be appreciated...




Raigosa/Raygoza

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Glad you found Joseph Dionicio's parents.  I thought it would be one 
> of these two:
> 
> JOSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOSA MOJARRO
> Gender: Male Christening: 06 DEC 1731 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
> Zacatecas, Mexico
> 
> JOSEPH DIONICIO RAIGOSA MARTINES
> Gender: Male Christening: 05 MAR 1741 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
> Zacatecas, Mexico
> 
> I wonder if the Rosalia could be this one instead:
> 
> MA. DE LA LUZ ROSALIA CASTANEDA LOPES
> Gender: Female Christening: 11 APR 1745 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
> Zacatecas, Mexico 
> 
> The other one seems too young to be married in 1764, though I do 
> realize sometimes people did get married that young...
> 
> I'll send you a list of the descendants that I have tomorrow.
> 
> - Angie

Thanks.

Wow!  How could I overlook the age factor?  Even considering Rosalia's fertile period of 19 years (from 1765 to 1784), marrying at eleven seems too farfetched!  :)

MA. DE

Raigosa/Raygoza

Glad you found Joseph Dionicio's parents.  I thought it would be one 
of these two:

JOSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOSA MOJARRO
Gender: Male Christening: 06 DEC 1731 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
Zacatecas, Mexico

JOSEPH DIONICIO RAIGOSA MARTINES
Gender: Male Christening: 05 MAR 1741 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
Zacatecas, Mexico

I wonder if the Rosalia could be this one instead:

MA. DE LA LUZ ROSALIA CASTANEDA LOPES
Gender: Female Christening: 11 APR 1745 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
Zacatecas, Mexico 

The other one seems too young to be married in 1764, though I do 
realize sometimes people did get married that young...

I'll send you a list of the descendants that I have tomorrow.

- Angie




New files uploaded to ranchos

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> Where is El Salto?
> Please let me know.
> 
> Alberto.
>>>

Hello Alberto,

My great grandmother, Margarita Pinedo, was from El Salto.  
I've always assumed this "El Salto" is a place located a few miles 
northeast of Colotán, Jalisco, but on the state of Zacatecas, near 
Villanueva.

The reason why I think my "El Salto" is located in Zacatecas and not 
to be confused with "El Salto, Jalisco", which is Southeast of 
Guadalajara, is because my great Grandfather was from Colotlán, which 
is relatively close.  Makes sense, doesn't it?

Hope this answers your question.
Regards!

Victor






Raigosa/Raygoza

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Victor,
> 
> I think I might have some information for you.
> 
> I found this marriage record:
> JOSSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOZA
>   Male
> Marriages: 
>   Spouse:  ROZALIA CASTANEDA
>   Marriage:  05 MAR 1764   Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, 
>>>

Angie,

I reviewed the Raygoza records you posted.  All seems to indicate 
that they are indeed siblings, as the parents names, the location and 
the dates coincide.  I'm adding them for now to my tree and
I'll make 
a note to verify on microfilm.

I went two generations further on the Raygoza line, as I have now 
Francisco Roman De Raygoza, father of Josseph Dionicio and Joseph de 
Raygoza father of Francisco Roman .  Please review the updated 
GabinaMartel file on my folder, from the sixth generation and up.

Regarding Rozalia Castaneda, wife of Josseph Dionicio, I have one 
candidate from the same batch number of baptismal records, which is 
the following:

MARIA

Jerez, Zacatecas



Thanks Alberto,



great account and thanks for the information. Not really related but
just thought I'd toss in a few books on Jerez that I found on WorldCat:



Jerez y su gente :


región de vírgenes, nomadismo y
resistencia cultural /

José de Jesús Montoya Briones

1996
1. ed.

Spanish
Book Book
149 p. : ill., maps ; 21 cm.
México, D.F. : INAH : Plaza y Valdés Editores,
; ISBN: 9688564451


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    Title: Jerez y su gente :

    región de vírgenes, nomadismo y resistencia cultural /
    Author(s): Montoya
    Briones, José de Jesús.
     
    Publication: México, D.F.
    : INAH : Plaza y

    SALUDOS TO EVERYONE

    Please excuse me for the late reply. 
    
    The following article I found in "Jerez, Monografia e
    Historia, by Ricardo Santoyo Reveles."
    
    Here goes:
    
    La Esclavitud
    "El 7 de abril de 1780, llego el reclamon de una de
    estas ventas, realizado por Don Pantaleon de le Torre
    y Salcedo en poder de la senora Rosa Gomez, viudua de
    Eusebio Sanchez Castellanos, quien reclama a su
    apoderado el trato de una mulata esclava de nomber
    Petra, la que obtuvo por su difunto marido, y que
    nacio en su casa durante su matrimonio; julio de 1760,
    se trato a Don Pedro Calderon, asentista de gallos en
    Jerez, este trato tenia ano y medio de haberse
    efectuado; en ese tiempo de la Torre y Salcedo vendio
    en 170 pesos y despues se valuo en 125, y Rose Gomez
    reclama que no se le padgado la totalidad del precio y
    que se resisten a pagar lo expresado y que esto iria
    hasta los tribunales competentes.
        La Audiencia Real de Mexico, expdio en 1716 eln
    drecho de libertad a los escloavos de jerez, pero esto
    no se lleva a cabo

    New files uploaded to ranchos

    Where is El Salto?
    Please let me know.
    
    Alberto.
    --- Victor Villarreal  wrote:
    
    > 
    > Hello All,
    > 
    > This is to notify you of a couple of files that I
    > just uploaded to
    > the Files Section.
    > 
    > Surnames: Villagrana, Martel, Pinedo, Colunga, Del
    > Real, Serrano,
    > Arana, Rosales, Marquez, Lopez, Sandoval, Sanches
    > Castellanos,
    > Hurtado, Morillo, Perez, Tovar, Raygoza, Balbuena,
    > Alvarado ...
    > 
    > Places: Monte Escobedo, Villa Guerrero, Totatiche,
    > Tlaltenango,
    > Colotlán, El Terrerito, El Salitre, El Salto...
    > 
    > Your comments (and help) are most welcome!
    > 
    > Victor
    > 
    > 
    > 
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