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I found the following additional information on Maria Gabay:

"Gaspar Melchor y Maria Gabay se casaron el 24 de Julio de 1657" This looks like a second marriage for Maria Gabay.

John Gonzalez

Additional information on Maria Gabay.

Joseph de La Cruz and Maria Gabay appear on the list for Confirmations on June 27, 1648 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Their children confirmed were: Maria, Ana, Teresa and Juan. No other information is given.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16790

Could anyone in the group tell me what the word is right before "Zacatecana"? It looks like "F---ica". Is this a town where the bride was "originaria y vecina de"?

John,
I understand that children's surnames often do not match the patrilineal usage we employ today. However, often (but not always) those 'inconsistencies' have a 'logical' explanation. In the example of Gertrudis, Nava was her mother's surname. Other siblings took the Munoz from the mother side, while others the Gonzalez from the Paternal Grandfather in all sorts of combinations (with or without de Hermosillo). However, I wonder whether anyone knows of an Extracted Record that lists Ramirez de Hermosillo for members of that family. All the ones I've seen listed are Submitted Records. I wonder if all started with a transcription error (Ramirez instead of Gonzalez) with that error becoming perpetuated over time. By contrast, I do find Gonzalez Hermosillo as a surname asociated to Diego Alonso de Hermosillo's children. Just wondering.

Thanks John
Last night I found the following on Alonso marriage to Luisa:

Dio. Alonso de Hermosillo y Luysa de Nava
23 Feb 1645 Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
M60286 (marriages 1637-1669) 0639754.

Jaime,

Segun los datos que tengo yo, Juana Alderete era hija de Francisco Alderete
y Elvira de Padilla.

Francisco Alderete era natural de Torrelobaton, Valladolid, Espana y murio
el 25 Nov 1683 en Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Estos datos los encontre en el

Hola Primos,what is the relationship of Joseph Macias Valdez to Nicolas Macias Valadez and Leonor Retamosa
Ronnie
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Hola Bill ,I was wondering if this was Diego's second marriage ? I have Diego married to Luisa Munoz de Nava around 1644/45.
Primo Ronnie
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Yes, it is good to hear your position on this, Joseph. I have been in other
forums for other groups and, one of my own postings I had no idea was
controversial, drew a very harsh attack from someone else in the group,

Hello Everyone,

My investigation has lead me to Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza and her father Lope Ruiz de Esparza with an anknown mother. Searching here in Nuestros Ranchos I found that her mother was Francisca Gabai Navarro de Moctezuma and Francisca's mother's name was Petronila Navarro and her father was Martin Navarro. Supposibly there is a Cortez/ Moctezuma connection threw Petronila.

Hello all, I would like to know if anyone has any tips about how to continue
when you're stuck. My specific situation is that I was able to find records
back to 1856 for one of my family lines, others lines have ended sooner. On

Hola A Todos,

I doen't know if anyone else has found this site but just in case I wanted to share it since
I have found little pieces of information :

http://pages.prodigy.net/bluemountain1/newitems.htm

I was up late last night searching the Family Search Labs pilot website,
too! It's great! Not only in the 1930 census have I found ancestors, but
in typing in names to do a search on, I found information I have been

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_OtherDiscussion/

for any that might have missed it I have started a new Yahoo group
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_OtherDiscussion/) for discussion that
is wide open on any topic you can think of. Absolutely no restrictions.

This may be a question I should have asked at the beginning of my research, but someone told me there was a way to make a copy of records found on film at the FHC. I know how to get the film and look at it, but I wasn't sure if I could actually make a copy of the original document, especially when it's one of many on a page.

Hi John! To the rescue like always. :-) gracias!

The problem is that I have that info already... I'd like to see if anyone has the record itself to see which of the 2 Juan's in the family he is. Also, I'd like more info on his parents Francisco and Ana Quiteria if possible.

THANKS TO LETICIA LEON I FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MY GRANDPA, IN THE 1930 CENSUS I FIND THAT MY GRANPA WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND HAD 3 MORE BROTHERS, PEDRO 25 YEARS OLD, RUPERTO 20 YEARS OLD, MONICO 22

Hello to all!

I am sooo excited. I've been able to link my current Gomez line from Juchipila, Zac back 5 generations to a couple from Jalos. It was Juan Gomez and Ma de Jesus Carrillo, married on 1/27/1809 in Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. The problem is that Juan's parent's Francisco and Ana Quiteria Agredano had 2 sons named Juan, one Juan Januario and one Juan Eugenio. Which one of these married Ma de Jesus Carrillo in Jalos? Help!

What a satisfaction in helping!, I sent an answer to Ramiro Puentes about his quest for Felipe Puentes, found it in rancho Las Animas of Nochistlán, Zacatecas. Greetings to all!

Leticia Leon Mora

CAN SOMEONE OF THIS FORUM HAVE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE WITH THE LAST NAME PUENTES, MY GRANPA NAME WAS FELIPE PUENTES RODRIGUEZ BORN AND RAISED IN RANCHO LAS ANIMAS MUNICIPIO DE NOCHISTLAN, ZACATECAS I WAS BORN AUGUST 23,1912 OR 1917

En posicion de uno de los mediadors es mi intencion a guardar la paz. Quitaré cualquier persona del grupo que causa problemas. Horita no hay problema y quicera que eso no cambia. He creado un grupo especial para que todos interesados pueden continuar en esta discusión fuera del grupo. Cualquier persona interesada en ser parte de este grupo envía su dirección

Hi, Joseph:
I double-checked my album in the Member's Photos and the new ones I placed
there are there. It is in Corrine's Martin del Campo Collection.

Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

I just wanted to let everyone know, that George & Peggy Ryskamp, just published a new book titled "Finding Your Mexican Ancestors, A Beginner's Guide". It is available through Ancestry at the moment. From what I have been able to read, it is a very good book, especially for beginners and for those of us, who have been researching for a while.

Sophia Celeste and others,

One of the ancestry lines of Ana Camacho goes to Alonso de Hermosillo and
Catalina Gonzalez (Ana Camacho's GGGGrandparents) who, together with their
son Juan Gonzalez