Hi Ed,

Thank you for responding and for your insights. It has spurred me on
to more research.

After much searching I finally know my haplogroup. I went back to
FamilyTree/Ancestry.com and looked up my results again. They did not
list my haplogroup but referred me to a Haplogroup motifs website
http://www.stats.gla.ac.uk/~vincent/founder2000/motif.html

My haplogroup is U5a1a. From my mtDNA. You are correct in assuming
my dad is dead. His sister is also dead and left no biological
children. My brother will give me his YDNA sample to research with.

Thanks for the information

but my research is for the towns of jalostotitlan and san miguel el alto

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> sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
> Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to ranchos 
> Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
> Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales
>


Lilli,

I have run across a number of Oñate family members coming over from Spain on my review 
of Archivos en Red. Unfortunately I can not tell you which year it was since I had no need to 
make copies. I have reviewed every record in the Pasajeros list from 1635 to 1790 which is 
the time frame you will find the Oñates; quite a number came over. If you use the Archivos en 
Red, be very patient.

Ed

Lili:

Have you explored the possible descendancy from Juan de Onate and 
clan?  The name seems rare enough that it is likely most Onates in 
Mexico are descendants of the same family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Onate


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lili pinzon"  wrote:
>
> sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
> Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to 
ranchos 
> Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
> Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales
>

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wrote:
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> Victor.......is this the complete
message? It appears that you left off in
> the middle of a
sentence......Thanks! Josie
>
> _____
>

Josie, it
looks like the message got truncated.  Below is a copy of that same
message.

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That's a keen observation and
a good question about the number of differences in our mtDNA in relation to the
CRS reference.

Let's start by saying that the CRS (Cambridge Reference
Sequence) is just an arbitrary reference selected by some team of geneticist
that were among the first to study the genetic sequences of mitochondrial
DNA. 

sorry, forgot to say that part of the family stablished in Jesus 
Maria, Jalisco, the ranch is called Mesa de Oñate, neighbor to ranchos 
Puertecito and Paso Bajo owned by familia Leon, decendants of De Cos Y
Leon. So Long Leticia Leon Morales

hello everybody  I uploaded a portion of my genealogy on the maternal 
side of my father, this Oñate resided in San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Gto. 
(nowadays is City Manuel Doblado), legend in the family said that four 
brothers came from Spain, two stayed and two went back. When was it 
and who and who where they? my father doesn`t know. Maybe happened in 
1820`s or maybe far long. Anybody related? Go to ranchos 2 and look in 
the folder of genealogies  Thankyou all.  Leticia Leon Morales aka 
lili pinzon

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