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Instructions for making .rtf or .doc Genealogy Reports


I've made a new folder in Ranchos2:





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to Create .rtf or .doc Files



Instructions for PAF and FTM



Here you will find instructions by Angie Godina on PAF and from me on
FTM.



Can you all have a look and help me "Flesh" out the FTM instructions. I
know I'm missing something basic that needs to be included. Send me
your suggestions and I'll make the changes accordingly



I'll be away for a few days.



joseph



"Ranchos Support Fund"

For now we are over a hundred members strong.  I would like to run
something past you that is open for discussion. Would anyone object to
having a completely optional "Ranchos Support Fund"?



I was thinking if a few of us sent in a few buck we might be able to
have $100 stipends available to send off to members that are in need or
for projects that are supportive of the Ranchos Group. This effort
would need a volunteer "use" committee which would have at least 3
members (no ties) and one of those would be a treasurer to hold the
funds. Before the "use" committee would decide on a "use" they would
bring up the use for group discussion. but after the discussion the
decision for the use would be made by the committee.



If this is something that you all would consider going forward on then
I would like to nominate Kitty Cortez to be one of the committee
members and possibly the Treasurer. Also I would like to pledge $25 to
start the contributions.



But all that is premature if you all

Un Palo. . .forgot to ask

Joseph,

For some reason I can't open the attachment. Can you save it in the 
files section?

Maria
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> In that death cert for my GGG grandfather, Tadeo Diaz. What do you 
think 
> the letters mean on the left:
> 
> M. E. ad ? is it ad or something else. I would guess the E is for 
> Espanol but what about the M and ad?
> 
> joseph
>





Un Palo. . .forgot to ask

In that death cert for my GGG grandfather, Tadeo Diaz. What do you
think the letters mean on the left:



M. E. ad ? is it ad or something else. I would guess the E is for
Espanol but what about the M and ad?



joseph



Un Palo: Definition of "Participation" was The "Ax"



Edward Serros wrote:

Joseph,

Just trying to dull your "ax". I don't want you swing too hard and hurt yourself.

I'm an old woodsman from way back. I used to and still do heat a
majority of the time with a wood insert and split wood. One way to keep
from hurting yourself is to keep your Ax razor honed to make sure it
"bites" and doesn't glance off like a dull Ax is likely to do and catch
a leg. My Ax is currently ready to go, but I'm really expecting that
most on the Ax list will communicate and not stay on the list.


thanks for your concern, just trying to be fair to all.

joseph

ps: in an effort to keep this on topic, what kind of trees do they have
in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes.


pps: well here is a better effort. Check out this death cert for my GGG
grandfather. It seems he was a woodman too, but unfortunately he got in
the way of a Palo. That almost happened to me once. And it was one big palo!


Ed



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Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation

Please do.
 
    If you check their webpagess
where the preliminaries are shown, you'll see that not many of us latinos are
shown.  That;s because we do not participate  much.  My cousins,
my immediate family and other shave participated.  IN fact, it seems that
my family is heavily represented (I know,  I saw the last names and the
entries).  I know that the Sorensen Lab is very interested in
Latinamericans because the project is for tracing the human migrations the world
over and there are very few participants from Latinamerica.
 
I will be going to Mexico to pick more samples from
my family to participate even further because we have several Indian mixes and
the lab is especially interested in documented Indian lines (they are the path).
 
Elvira
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:12
AM
Subject: [ranchos] Sorenson Molecular
Genealogy Foundation

I am thinking of

Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation

Arturo,

I participated in the study years ago.  However, they have not started 
publishing mtDNA results yet.  They plan on publishing them to their 
website sometime next year.

I would encourage everyone to participate. You could potentially have 
your pedigree chart extended many generations by participating.  Here 
is an excerpt from their website:
"The corresponding pedigree chart is also extended by staff 
genealogists as far as genealogical databases allow; extended pedigrees 
currently include over one million ancestral records."

My brother and I both submitted our samples along with our full gedcom 
file (not just the 4 generation pedigree chart they require).  They 
hide all information on living individuals, so you don't have to worry 
about privacy.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
wrote:
>
> I am thinking of joining the study being conducted by the Sorenson 
> Genealogy Foundation.  They are basically linking documented 
>

Definition of "Participation" was The "Ax"

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
I don't unsubscribe members becasue they 
> simply didn't submit their genealogy report. The way I figure some folks 
> are in "extreme" non participant mode and I do these "Ax" sessions on 
> average of once a year to 18 months. I think this is my 3rd go around. 
> I guarantee you that I have not unsubscribed anyone in the past that 
> didn't even email me and say something like the above. and I view them 
> as reasons not excuses. Afterall "life does happen."
> 
> I guess I am subjectively defining "participation" in this and in past 
> emails of this sort as: "Participation in the ranchos group is emailing 
> me either directly or indirectly once every year to 18 months saying you 
> have some reason why you can't send in your genealogy report."
 

Joseph,

Just trying to dull your "ax". I don't want you swing too hard and hurt yourself.


Ed





Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation

I am thinking of joining the study being conducted by the Sorenson 
Genealogy Foundation.  They are basically linking documented 
genealogies with yDNA and mtDNA markers so that people can use their 
database to get clues as to origins and to break throughbrick walls.

Has anyone looked into this or participated in this?  It is interesting 
to use their database.  I have been able to find matches for 18 of 19 
yDNA markers and the corresponding genealogies are mostly in Brazil!

http://www.smgf.com/about_smgf.html




Definition of "Participation" was The "Ax"





Edward Serros wrote:

I do not think you should "ax" any member simply

that key word is "Simply". . .after you go through a few rounds of
"unsubscribing" members like I have and a good few of the other members
have, one thing will be clear. I don't unsubscribe members becasue they
simply didn't submit their genealogy report. The way I figure some
folks are in "extreme" non participant mode and I do these "Ax"
sessions on average of once a year to 18 months. I think this is my 3rd
go around. If a person doesn't have enough "gumption" to at the very
least email me and say they are interested in staying in the group then
they are gone. The key is "lack of participation" I can't say to people
they need to participate that is so subjective, but I can say that
everyone needs to "show" a small sign of life and that sign to me is at
the very least to email me in response to my "Ax" email and say



"hey it's my 'jobs, lack of time, lack of resources, lack of family
sources, etc' or any