Hello Alice, Joseph and others,

Thank you for your encouraging words. After rereading what I posted
Saturday, I must have been extra stressed out that day. No, civil
marriage certificates from San Francisco do not list parents - that
would have been too easy!

My father, now deceased, had passed down a rather fantastic family
story about his father's side, about two elder brothers getting
together to disinherit a much younger brother and then seeing to it
that important records were destroyed...and then in turn the youngest
brother disinherited his own son (my grandfather).

Very reluctantly, I'm now beginning to believe that this 'fantastic
family story' might be based on fact. Why reluctantly? Because to
most genealogists family stories are just that, stories, and inherently
suspect until proven to be factual. To his dying day my father didn't
believe me when I told him that the tiny, dainty little old lady (on
his maternal side) in the family photograph, the

I need some help in clarifying what appears to be variations in the 
given names Gil and Gila.  Is Gil a contraction of Mergil and/or 
Hermeregildo?  Is Gila a contraction of Hermeregilda?  I have a 
number of people found in different records whom I need to determine 
if they are the same person but recorded with a variation of name.   
Has anyone a difinitive answer?   



 

Hello Steve,

I am so impressed with how you're going about your research.  I am 
basically following the same standard of confirming everything off 
the actual microfilm.  If I find someone on the IGI, I do add them 
to my database and reference the IGI, but will eventually go to the 
microfilm and get a print.  I didn't find a link between us, but it 
could be we will find one later as we get further back.  I only wish 
I had started my research when I was your age or that I had more 
free time to visit my local FHC. By the way, I live in Elk Grove, CA 
(a suburb of Sacramento).

Maria Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "sgapodaca"  wrote:
> Hello, possible primo.
> 
> I will have this is the Cervantes family that I have on my file.
> Marcelo Cervantes, married Maria Salazar before 1821. So far, I 
have 
> verified four relatives. I have found others on the IGI, but I 
don't 
> put them on my file until I see with my own eyes the actual 
> microfilm or document

surprising amount of detail on this map. . .its a bit crude and probably
out of scale but it could be helpful. . .maybe.

joseph

http://www.loc.gov/rr/geogmap/luso/mexico.html#mexico

see #540

ps: you need to select the amount of magnification and then click on the
section of the map you want to see.

new additions have been made. . . .don't everybody be shy go ahead and
add your favorite place in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dsjmx.html

partial listing, i think:

Jerez, Zacatecas

    Batch No.:      Dates:                Source Call No.:

C600802 1746 - 1758 0439845

C600803 1761 - 1771 0439846
J600804 1771 - 1780 0439847
K600804 1771 - 1780 0439847
J600805 1780 - 1800 0439848
K600805 1780 - 1800 0439848

C600807 1820 - 1828 0439850

C600808 1836 - 1840 0439851

J600806 1806 - 1874 0439849
K600806 1806 - 1874 0439849

Matrimonios:

   Batch No.:       Dates:                Source Call No.:

M600801 1710 - 1784 0439844

All right, here's another problem, actually several questions, I'm
putting in the hands of this knowledgeable group:

Over the years we've tried to find my paternal grandfather's baptismal
record, going through many films of Bautismos in El Sagrario. I know
now where and when he was born, as eventually his civil birth record
was found under just his mother's name. His name was Leon CALVILLO
Ponce, natural son of Jose Guillermo CALVILLO Ursua and Maria Placida
PONCE Medina. (His parents, my great-grandparents, were eventually
married through the Church, in 1875.)

But here's my question: He should have been baptized sometime in April
1869. Although we couldn't find him in any of the relevant books, we
did come across a mystifying reference to a 'libro secreto #2' wherein
(I assume) were written the entries of natural or illegitimate
children [Film #299489, Bautismos del Sagrario 1868-1870]. If I were
to find this libro secreto #2, maybe it would list my

Thanks to members of this group who sent me notes about Autlan de la
grana. Finally we know what happened to it - nothing! The name was
changed, that's all. It's been there all along, in fact, since the 7th
century.

My gr-grandparents' notebook is from about 1870 to 1884. I vaguely
remember my abuelita mentioning the Cristero wars.

For sgapodaca: The only APODACA surnames I have in my database are

1) Don Andres APODACA, c. 1780.

He was padrino, with Maria Antonia GARSIA, to her granddaughter, Maria
Marsela, hija legitima de Juan Jose SERRANO y Maria Simona RADILLO
Garsia in Feb. 1822, in Autlan. Maria Antonia GARSIA was the first
wife of Joseph RADILLO-GUSMAN. (Joseph RADILLO-GUSMAN I believe was my
gr3 grandfather, with his second wife, but I can't prove it yet.)

Don Andres APODACA was also padrino, with the same Maria Simona
RADILLO, above, to Jose Valerio, hijo legitimo de Jose Maria GARSIA y
Felipa QUIÑONES in Feb 1823.

2) Julia APODACA, c. 1840, with