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Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native Indians from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied family, the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually the adopted a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January 6, the Catholic Church celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast of the Magi, when the three wise king visited the Baby Jesus in Bethlehem.  In Mexico and Spain the day is called Epifanía or “Día de los Reyes Magos.”  The “Reyes” were called Melchor, Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a result of this holy day, many children born on or near the holy-day were named one or a combination of the following:  José Epifánio, María Epifánia, José de los Reyes, María de los Reyes, Melchor, Melchora, Gaspar, or Baltazar.

 

This is essentially what happened to children born on other

Rey, Reyes, etc

   

I went to this page:



http://genealogy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/geneal/index%5Fgc.html



and plugged Rey in and found that according to this Heraldry Dictionary
the names were different. Of coure that doesn't mean that one name
didn't evolve into the other or a lot of other possibilities:


Index to the Enciclopedia Heráldica Hispano-Americana of
Alberto and Arturo García Carraffa

The 88 volumes of this work, [Library of Congress Call Number:
CR2142.G3] supplemented by a continuing work, offer an immense tribute
to the work of indefatigable genealogists. The work treats Spanish
heraldry in the first two volumes, and with volume three begins the Diccionario
Heráldico y Genealógico de Apellidos Españoles y Americanos
, or
a listing of over 15,000 names with their respective genealogical
histories (with color illustrations of representative crests) of
Spanish and Spanish-American families. Please note that on the spine
one finds two

Rey/Reyes Name

I have on more than one occasion heard that people with the Rey or 
Reyes last name belong to one and the same family. How can this be 
possible??  Has anyone heard similar comments or can anyone 
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where does it 
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have 
RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo 
Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso, Tx.

Are they related or what? 




FYI

Title Descripción y censo general de la Intendencia de Guadalajara,
1789-1793
Stmnt.Resp. José Menéndez Valdés; estudio preliminar y versión de texto
de Ramón Ma. Serrera

Authors	Menendez Valdes, Jose (Main Author)
Serrera, Ramón María (Added Author)

Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Census - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Land and property - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Description and travel

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972.35 X4m 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	Guadalajara, Jal. : Gobierno de Jalisco, c1980
Physical 	161 p. : il., cartas, 1 mapa (col.)

Subject Class 	972.35 X4
Series 	Colección historia. Serie estadísticas básicas : 1

For a printable version of this record click here then click your
browser's Print button.


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Has Anyone Ever Ordered Any of These Films?


Title	Capellanías, 1606-1899
Authors	Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
Guadalajara.Ecclesiastical documents regarding donations to the parishes
of the Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico for charitable purposes
or for the support of the clergy.


Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Church records
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records

Format 	Manuscript (On Film)
Language 	Spanish

Publication Salt Lake City [Utah] : Filmados por la Sociedad
Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical 	157 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
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if you have what kind of information is on them? It appears that it
might have the names of those that gave significant donations? thanks,


joseph



FYI: Interesting Film/Tecolotlan, Jalisco


 Film # 1410916

Film

Item 1 Recopilación histórica, genealógica y heráldica de la familia de
Unda Unda y Murillo : llevada acabo especialmente para el Sr. licenciado
Jusús Victor Unda y Murillo Aparicio y Aparicio, Edgar Juan


Item 2 Estudio histórico y genealógico sobre la familia Guerra de las
montañas de Asturias y de Santander : rama de la Nueva Galicia con un
apéndice sobre la familia Romo de Vivar González-Leal, Mariano


Item 3 Los Altamirano en la conquista de América  Morales, Manuel de

Item 4 Libro de oro de los apellidos españoles, su etimología,
genealogía, y heráldica. Vilches y Marín, Ernesto de


Item 5 Los Morales de los Ríos  Nieto y Cortadellas, Rafael

Item 6 Un linaje de San Agustín de Tecolotlán, los Agraz Agraz García
de Alba, Gabriel


6 titles matching the film number.

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Bolaños Y Mezquital del Oro/FYI


FYI:

Title	Las minas de Nueva España en 1753
Stmnt.Resp.	Alvaro López Miramontes
Authors	López Miramontes, Alvaro (Main Author)

México. Instituto Nacional de Antropología. Departamento de
Investigaciones Históricas. Seminario de Historia Urbana (Added Author)


Notes Incluye índice.Información compilada referente a los reales de
Bolaños, Taxco, Tetela del Río, Tetela de Xonatla, Escandela
(Cadereita), Mezquital del Oro, Santa Eulalia y San Felipe del Real
(Chihuahua) en 1753.The mines of Mexico in 1753.


Subjects 	Mexico - History - 1548-1817
Mexico - Land and property
Mexico - Business records and commerce

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972 H2L 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	México : Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, 1975
Physical 	108 p. : il.

Subject Class 	972 H2
Series 	Colección científica. Fuentes. Historia económica : 29



Necesito una Traduccion

well of course yes thanks for the offer.



thanks,



joseph



Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Joseph,
 
I don't know if you've had a reply yet  regarding the request
for a translator. I can give the translation a try and if I can't get
it just right I can find someone to assist me.
 
We just returned from Tlachichila and Nochistlan Zacatecas.I
have lots of information to share with the group.
 
Please let me know either way.
 
Best Regards, Alicia A Carrillo



Joseph Puentes wrote:



Hey,



is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the
below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to
have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. .
.well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd
grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an
example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions
for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to

Necesito una Traduccion

Joseph,
 
I don't know if you've had a reply yet  regarding the request for a translator. I can give the translation a try and if I can't get it just right I can find someone to assist me.
 
We just returned from Tlachichila and Nochistlan Zacatecas.I have lots of information to share with the group.
 
Please let me know either way.
 
Best Regards, Alicia A Carrillo

Joseph Puentes wrote:


Hey,

is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. . .well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to me, but at the minimum keep the 2 requirements to be part of the group part of your version. . .I won't budge on this