April 15, 2005
Joseph:
Does the info that I sent suffice? Do you need more?
Am I a member?
Mickey
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Joseph:
Does the info that I sent suffice? Do you need more?
Am I a member?
Mickey
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In a message dated 1/29/2005 12:18:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, alva_ken@... writes:
I think I have heard of that book. Or then again, I may have not. Sounds rather interesting. I'll look into it.
These names sound like very typical Aguascalientes and northern Los Altos. These names are very prevalent in Aguascalientes, Teocaltiche, Encarnacion, Lagos de Moreno, Nochistlan (somewhat), and Ojuelos and Pinos to a lesser extent. I have Alba, Romo, Moreno, Lomelin, Martin (Martin del Campo), Estrada, and Retamosa (which was originally Macias
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Hi Marge, As you may have noticed in my introduction post, I also have ancestors in Zacatecas, namely in Monte Escobedo and Rancho el Limón. I'll soon have a file ready for uploading. When I do I'll let you know so you can browse thru it. Thanks! Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "marge vallazza"wrote: > Victor, I have Morillo and Tovar ancestors and family connections from Zacatecas. Marge V:) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rosalinda M. Ruiz > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:14 PM > Subject: RE: [ranchos] Allow me to introduce myself... > > > Hi Victor! > > Welcome to the ranchos group. I just wanted to mention that I have families from Totatiche and the surrounding areas. The last names are Sandoval, Urena, Haro, Del Real, Gonzalez, Rojas, Covarrubias/Cobarrubias, Diaz Romero, Rodriguez, and many, many others. Do you have a file with your family trees yet? We may have a connection. I'm
Hi Rosalinda, Thanks for the welcoming message; I really appreciate it. I'm glad to know that you also have families from Totatiche and the surrounding towns. It is very likely that we may have an ancestor in common, even if it isn't in the immediate generations that preceded us. To start with, in my genealogical findings in the IGI from the parish records I already have some of the surnames that you list: for example, Sandoval and Del Real, but I'm sure there may still others that I don't know. I'm currently in the process of transcribing a list of ancestors from my maternal great grandparents, which are the ones from our area of interest. I just came back from out of town as I was busy attending some work, that's why I haven't done it. I'll let you know soon when I upload my files. Kind Regards Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"wrote: > Hi Victor! > > Welcome to the ranchos group. I just wanted to mention that I have families
Gloria, In reference to the information and question below regarding the Felguerez and Colotlan, I make a few comments. One, you can obtain an idea of the land owned by the Felguerez family by reviewing the article that I put in the photo section and labeled Valparaiso. Paragraph three of Cerro de Gallegos.jpg gives you an estimate of the size of the land ownership. In the 1800's ownership of land generally meant ownership of very large tracts of land. Secondly, the names of some of the ranchos owned by Felguerez family in Valparaiso (I think) were: El Astillero, El Tejujan, Las Cruzes. They also owned a silver mine, Santa Elena. In Colotlan, they owned La Trinidad and the silver mine called Bolanos. Thirdly, these properties were all lost in the Mexican Revolution to my knowledge. Fourthly, one of the Felguerez returned to Valparaiso in the 1920's, only to be murdered. Lastly, one of the great artists/painter/sculptors of Mexico today is from Valparaiso and part of the
where are you Ken? Are you anywhere
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1/29/05 Cousin Joseph: Yes, you may share the info on Hacienda
Hipasote. Especially if it will assist us in finding information about our family. We -- the Romans -- still have family living out on the ranches
surrounding Hacienda Hipasote. Also, one of our relatives is married to the neice of the current owner, Fernando Macias -- she says that her great aunt purchased the hacienda and her father & his brother - Fernando Macias inherited the hacienda ---- then her father died. This is how this lady - can't remember her name & forgot to
check my family tree maker program before typing this e-mail -- is related: Julian Roman had a younger brother named Juan "Chico" Roman -- he had a son named Jose Roman & Jose had a daughter named Francisca Roman --- Francisca has a son named Guadalupe Ceballos & Guadalupe is married to the Macias woman. It was by accident that I came across this information. In 1997
- the 1st time that we visited Hacienda Hipasote (also spelled |
thanks very much to Ed Serros for this very nice article that is located
in the "files" area of Ranchos 2..
joseph
ps: quite a few of you are still not signed on to Ranchos2. If you get
this but can seem to get to Ranchos2 when you click on the "Ranchos2"
link in the "links" area of the "original" Ranchos group then maybe you
are one of those unsubscribed members. There is a lot of info there. let
me know if you can't access that site.
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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> Joseph, Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!. I had tried a google search but had no luck. I had no idea this was an option. I'm in Glendora, California. It's about 10 miles east of Pasadena. I'll take your advice. I'll try my local library, but if that's no help, then I'll try my alma mater, Cal Poly University. Appreciatively, Ken |
okay I see I've kind of gotten carried away with this. Its just that I
don't think to often of the cultural influences that affected our
relatives in different parts of Mexico. Its hard to imagine my relatives
in 1700's in some small Ranchos being subject to a higher level of
Music. But then I'm sure that even in the bigger Cities there was the
initial presentations and then that influence would filter outward
eventually making its way to the countryside even if it was only on the
strings of single guitarists trying to duplicate the more cultured
sound of the big city.
joseph ===========================================
CA UNIV OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO CUS
LA LOYOLA UNIV LLM
NM UNIV OF NEW MEXICO IQU
NY NEW YORK PUB LIBR RES LIBR NYP
TX UNIV OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN IXA
Title: Trayectoria de la música en México epoca colonial / Corp Author(s): Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México. Publication: Mexico :; Voz Viva, Year: