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These forum posts are from the old “Ranchos Archives” which was part of a Yahoo Groups system that operated between 2003-2006. This was a hybrid of electronic mailing lists and internet message boards. The files are “Read Only” and many of the users of the Yahoo Groups are not part of the new NuestrosRanchos membership, so keep this in mind when viewing these message posts and replies.

Huerfanos (sp)


Are there any Huerfanos in the group. . .are there any orphans that
don't have others members researching the same general area as you are
researching in Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes? Well if you want to
invite researchers to Ranchos that are researching your specific area
let me know and I'll give you ideas.


I just went to rootsweb and did a geneal search of all the message
boards for those that are researching the Valparaiso, Zacatecas area. I
searched the first 26 pages and found 15 individuals. I then typed their
names into an email and send them an invitation to consider joining the
group. naturally if they are not serious researchers I won't let them
into the group. Of those 15 email addresses 4 were invalid, but lets see
if maybe 1 or 2 of the others might not find a serious researcher.


I said all that only to say that if you are the only one looking in your
area that is a way to find others to join you in your search. . .spend
some time on rootsweb

Some interesting History

I don't know for sure, but the geneal idea was that the men were
favored. Strange how that works. you'd think that my grandmother would
have been the oposite and favored her daughters, but no she pretty much
worshipped her 6 sons and treated her two daughters as a step below. .
.which doesn't mean she didn't love them but she loved them in that
hard kind of Mexican strict kind of different measuring stick kind of
different rules for them kind of way. My aunts definitely got more
demonacos than their brothers got. . .though having said that my uncles
got really good ones too. I remember I did a whole 45 minute tape of
recording oral history from my aunt before she died that had only
stories of the reasons why differnt ones were given cuerazos.



in fact just talking about this brings back vivid memories of "el
cinto" y "la mangera."     )     or maybe     (    is more appropriate



joseph



Irma GomezLucero wrote:

Have you discovered why this was
done?  I recall my mother

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Self introduction to Ranchos group

I have family connections named Sandoval from
Tepechitlan and family ancestors named Ortiz from Jerez.  Marge
V.:)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:11
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Self introduction to
Ranchos group


My name is Lorenzo Cuesta. 

I was born and
raised in Southern Texas (Laredo), but for the past 30
years I have lived
in Sacramento, California.  I have done most of my
research through
the Family History Center films and their website
databases. 


Though the Cuesta side of my family came from Real del Catorce, SLP

and Monterrrey N.L., most of my ancestors come from the Zacatecas and

Jalisco area. 

I am researching the following surnames from
Nochistlan, Zacatecas:
Ortiz, Cajero, Donlucas, Borroel, and Luis. 
To a lesser degree, I
also have ancestors from Nochistlan with the
following surnames:
Valencia, Santillan, Sanchez, Quirarte, Sandoval,

Self introduction to Ranchos group

My name is Lorenzo Cuesta.  

I was born and raised in Southern Texas (Laredo), but for the past 30 
years I have lived in Sacramento, California.  I have done most of my 
research through the Family History Center films and their website 
databases.  

Though the Cuesta side of my family came from Real del Catorce, SLP 
and Monterrrey N.L., most of my ancestors come from the Zacatecas and 
Jalisco area.  

I am researching the following surnames from Nochistlan, Zacatecas: 
Ortiz, Cajero, Donlucas, Borroel, and Luis.  To a lesser degree, I 
also have ancestors from Nochistlan with the following surnames: 
Valencia, Santillan, Sanchez, Quirarte, Sandoval, Pedroza, and 
Martinez.  

Some of these ancestores come from the surrounding areas: 
Tepechitlan, Zac; Duranes, Zac; Ayo El Chico, Jal; and Yahualica, Jal.

Most of the family group information that I have compiled, can be 
accessed from my rootsweb pages: 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cuesta/cuestach2.html

I look

Some interesting History

Have you discovered why this was done?  I recall my
mother being shocked that her Concuna (she & my aunt are married to
brothers) bathed her only daughter in cold water, so that she would learn the
"hard" life of a woman.  I'm glad that my mother didn't agree with this
treatment or child abuse.  I wonder if this is the reason your ancestors
did this?  By the way, my tia is descended from the Martin del
Campos.
Irma



From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]

Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:10 PM
To:
LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] Some interesting
History

this was sent to me by Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg. I introduce it to
the group to see if anyone had things they heard of through oral history that
might have been practiced in our target area of study. Let's open it even
further to say have you heard any good stories of some of our customs?

In
the story I send to the group awhile back called "Muchacha" about my Great
Grandmother Antonia Santa Maria and my grandmother

Ameca problem

Evie, Ameca in Jalisco and Amecameca in Estado de
Mexico are 2 very different locations. Most likely,
you should be looking for Ameca, Jalisco. The names,
though similar, represent to different places in 2
different states.

Guillermo Valdez


--- evievillegas  wrote:

> 
> Became stuck looking for birth record of Juan
> Florencio Villegas who, 
> according to his 1759 marriage record, was born in
> Ameca.  It was always my 
> assumption that meant Ameca, Jalisco since he was
> married in Colotlan 
> Jalisco.  However, I now notice records of Ameca,
> Edo and there is always 
> Amecameca.  How can I find out where immigrants to
> Colotlan usually came 
> from in the early 1700's? Possibly the State of
> Mexico? Thanks. Evie
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Some interesting History

this was sent to me by Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg. I introduce it to the
group to see if anyone had things they heard of through oral history
that might have been practiced in our target area of study. Let's open
it even further to say have you heard any good stories of some of our
customs?



In the story I send to the group awhile back called "Muchacha" about my
Great Grandmother Antonia Santa Maria and my grandmother Virginia Diaz
I can't help but remember that when my grandmother was born the story
went that my GG Grandmother Andrea Torres ordered that two tinas of
water be prepared when my grandmother was born. One was to have nice
toasty warm water in case the child was a boy and the other was to be
cold water in case it was a girl. Grandma Virginia got the Cold water.



what stories or customs have you heard from your relatives coming out
of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and or Aguascalientes???



bring on the oral history.



thanks Maria,



joseph



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Universities

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Joseph,

    Please drop me from the research group, because I
just don't have time. Thanks. Dr. Manuel R. Roman,
Jr.

Universities


I've added some links to Universities in Jalisco (mostly), Zacatecas
(need some help here), and Aguascalientes (need help here also)


have a look in the links under "Universities."

joseph