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NMSU filming archives of Sombrerete

thanks for this great information. I also have family from there. Maybe
some gaps will be filled once this project is complete. thanks much.
keep us updated and also forward any ILL loan information we might need.
I know Mr. Day in Special Collections via some email communications. He
is a very very helpful person.


thanks,

joseph


gmccrary@... wrote:

In my latest alumni issue from New Mexico State University in Las
Cruces, I found the following article:


NMSU is filming the archives of Sombrerete, Zacatecas. It will
take 2 years and produce about 200 reels of film. "The archive
houses little used, but incredibly rich documentation for the period
of the late 17th century through the end of the 18th century."


Among the materials are the church sacramental records such as
the marriage records from 1738-1764.


I am looking forward to the completion of the filming. Many of my
ancestors came from Sombrerete. Don Diego de Vargas recruited
many of his NM colonizers from

Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

Record 1 of 1 in Dissertation Abstracts 1987-1991



TI: SIX TLAXCALAN COLONIES ON NEW SPAIN'S NORTHERN FRONTIER; A
COMPARISON OF SUCCESS AND FAILURE (MEXICO)

AU: SEGO-EUGENE-B

DN: PHD

DD: 1990

SN: INDIANA-UNIVERSITY (0093)

PG: 320

LA: ENGLISH

AB: In their desire to end the long and costly warfare with the nomadic
Indians on colonial Mexico's northern frontier, Spanish officials
pursued a number of remedies; one of which was pacification of the
region through the introduction of colonies of Indian allies from
central Mexico. By far the most energetic and large-scale effort of
this type took place in 1591, when about one thousand Tlaxcalans were
sent north to found six widely scattered settlements. This study traces
the history of five of them (San Luis Colotlan,
San Andres del Teul, San Miguel Mesquitic, Nuestra Senora de la
Asuncion de Tlaxcalilla, and San Sebastian del Agua del Venado), in an
attempt to ascertain the impact of the expedition in general, and
individual successes

[Fwd: SOMOS PRIMOS August 2005 URL link and Table of Contents lq]

I'm back. . .buried under 500+ emails but back.



joseph



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Subject: SOMOS PRIMOS August 2005 URL link and Table of Contents lq
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:37:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@...
To: MIMILOZANO@...





Click
here: Somos Primos


http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spaug05/spaug05.htm





Hi . .   Hope this summer is filled with fun family reunions and
exciting researching vacations.   You'll find in this issue two new
categories, Anti-Spanish Legends and Dichos. 



Somos Primos
is a reflection of all of us, please feel
welcomed to send articles, tidbits, family information, and cultural
items as well.  If you have sent something which has not appeared in an
issue yet,  please send me a reminder.



Warm regards, Mimi

Notification is sent as a service, if you do not want to be notified,
just let me

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias Part Two

Rosalinda, Fantastic site!!! found what I was looking for, and much more!!! Thank you for sharing. Helyn

lareina2@... wrote:

Hi Helyn--

 

If you click on this link: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm , it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of the ranchos and cities in Mexico, in alphabetical order.  Click on M, and then scroll down to the link for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152, volume 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and 5 under Muertos, with other variations included.  I love this website, as it often helps me identify towns or ranchos  that are unfamiliar to me.  There is a rancho named Muertos near Tepetongo, which is near Jerez.

 

Rosalinda




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Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

There is a ranch just outside of Jerez called Lo de
Luna.  Many of my ancestors came from this ranch. I
believe my  uncles (Garcia de la Cadena branch)
purchased the ranch from the Munoz family in the early
1700's.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- latina1955@... wrote:

> Rosalinda,
> This site is facinating.  I looked up Herrera, and
> there appears to be a rancho en Los Altos de Jalisco
> and Luna in Jerez!  Now while this may be a very
> remote possibility, perhaps the families from the
> areas are related to those from Tlaltenango.  Or, it
> could mean that there were lots of baptisms being
> performed on the indigenous populations, and they
> ran out of surnames.....
>  
> Esperanza (Chicago area)
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lareina2@...
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto -
> Gracias
> 
> 
> Hi Helyn--
>  
> If you click on this link:
> http://biblio2

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

Rosalinda,
This site is facinating.  I looked up Herrera, and there appears to be a rancho en Los Altos de Jalisco and Luna in Jerez!  Now while this may be a very remote possibility, perhaps the families from the areas are related to those from Tlaltenango.  Or, it could mean that there were lots of baptisms being performed on the indigenous populations, and they ran out of surnames.....
 
Esperanza (Chicago area)

 
-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

Hi Helyn--
 
If you click on this link: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm , it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of the ranchos and cities in Mexico, in alphabetical order.  Click on M, and then scroll down to the link for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152, volume 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and 5 under Muertos, with other variations included.  I

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

Hi Helyn--
 
If you click on this link: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm , it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of the ranchos and cities in Mexico, in alphabetical order.  Click on M, and then scroll down to the link for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152, volume 4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and 5 under Muertos, with other variations included.  I love this website, as it often helps me identify towns or ranchos  that are unfamiliar to me.  There is a rancho named Muertos near Tepetongo, which is near Jerez.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Santos Luna
Sent: Aug 11, 2005 9:49 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

Arturo & Emilie:
Thank you both for your  most useful information. I am now in the midst of pursuing all of the avenues I was given. My sincere "mil gracias" for your time in coming to my rescue.
Helyn

Arturo Ramos wrote:

From what I have been able to

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

Arturo & Emilie:
Thank you both for your  most useful information. I am now in the midst of pursuing all of the avenues I was given. My sincere "mil gracias" for your time in coming to my rescue.
Helyn

Arturo Ramos wrote:

From what I have been able to gather there are two places called
Ranch del Muerto in Mexico.

One is in Chihuahua.  The other is in Aguascalientes.  There is a
place on modern maps in the municipality of Rincon de Romos called
Puerta del Muerto, which may be it and the other is a place just near
Aguascalientes (the city) called Cerro del Muerto.

Given the proximity of Tlaltenango to Aguascalientes, that is
probably where you should search.  There is someone who refers to el
Rancho del Muerto in their geneaology as well:

www.somosprimos.com/spsep02.htm

And a map:

http://www.maps-of-mexico.com/ags/3-cosio-aguascalientes-mexico-
map.shtml


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Santos Luna

wrote:
>
>
> In a marriage record for a Magallanas

Research Groups for other states

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Yolanda Medina-Perez"
 wrote:
> Does anyone know of a group similar to "ranchos" for the state of 
> Chihuahua? I have many ancestors from Santa Rosalia,Camargo and need 
> some guidance and contacts.   
> 
> Yoli Medina Perez
> El Paso, Tx.

May I make the suggestion of the Mexican FHR group
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mexicanfhr/).  It is a group that I
started about a year ago, to cover all of Mexico.  There are only 9
members at the moment.  And any one is welcome, to join.  Recently, I
took on a client, who has ancestry, from Santa Rosalia & Carmargo.  So
if there are questions, ask them.  And I will see if I can find an answer.

Thanks,
Jonathan




Research Groups for other states

size=2>Yolanda/Alicia,

Post
your findings if you find out?  I'm also looking in Chihuahua and in the
state of Coahuila.

size=2> 

size=2>Peggy


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:34 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Research Groups for
other states


Yolanda,

 

It's funny that you asked that today. I was also wondering if anyone
knows of a group for Michoacan. A friend at the local FHC was asking me about
a group for her state of Michoacan, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alicia Carrillo

San Jose, Ca

Yolanda Medina-Perez
wrote:

style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Does
anyone know of a group similar to "ranchos" for the state of
Chihuahua?
I have many ancestors from Santa Rosalia,Camargo and need
some guidance
and contacts.  

Yoli Medina Perez
El Paso,
Tx.