I'm researching the connection of ancestor, Gaspar Gómez, with the Gómez de Portugal Family through Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz. If you don't want to wade through the entire post, just read the text in bold (family tree for the Gaspar Gómez Family is at the end of this post):
The first recorded mention of Gaspar Gómez is in the 1669 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos, where he is noted with his wife, Magdalena Gutiérrez AKA de Ayala, living in the household of Antonio de Aguirre and his wife, Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz.
Transcription of the household of Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz, with identifying comments in brackets, from image 12 of the 1669 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:
estancia o casa de Antonio deaguirre
Ysavel Gomez Sumuger - ++ [Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz, daughter of Pedro Gómez de Portugal and Isabel Ortiz de Anda]
Juana gomez Soltera - ++ [Juana Gómez n. c1635, also daughter of Pedro Gómez de Portugal and Isabel Ortiz de Anda?]
Pedro martin casada con - ++
Ynes gomez - ++
Joachin gomez - ++
gaspar gomez - ++
Magdalena Gutierres sumuger - ++
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KTXV
Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez, AKA Ortiz de Anda, married in 1666, so who are the above adult Gómez family members (Juana, Ynés, Joachin and Gaspar) living with them in 1669?
Juana Gómez may possibly be identified as Isabel's sister. As far as I am aware, Juana remained unmarried and is not listed in her parents' household in the same padron, if still living: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KRKD
Researching the de Aguirre/Gómez Family more closely I built the following tree:
1st Generation of the Pedro Gómez de Portugal Family
1. Pedro Gómez de Portugal
cc Isabel Ortiz de Anda
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KW84-V
2nd Generation of the Pedro Gómez de Portugal Family
1.1 Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz
1st cc?
1.1.1 Aldonsa Ortiz (mestiza) cc 1672 José Sánchez (mestizo)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5Y1-W
2nd cc 1666 Antonio de Aguirre (Español)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5YL-F
1.1.2 Antonio de Aguirre (Español)
n. c1666?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYM7
1.1.3 Nicolas de Aguirre (mestizo)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG2J-748
Aldonsa Ortiz, noted as daughter of both Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz in her marriage record, married José Sánchez on 24 Jul 1672 making her too old to be a legitimate daughter from Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz's 1666 marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5Y1-W
Is she Isabel's daughter from a previous relationship? Or did Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz share a prior ongoing relationship and children, such as Aldonsa, before their 1666 marriage?
Transcription of the household of Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz, with identifying comments in brackets, from image 49 of the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:
Rancho de Ant.o deaguirre
Ant.o deAguirre Esp C++
Ysabel Ortiz ++
Joseph de aguirre S++
Ant.o Ortiz s++
Ju.o de aguirre Esp de 11años
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYM7
The child of 11 years above, Juan de Aguirre, would just be old enough to be legitimate son of Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz resulting from their 1666 marriage.
Are Joseph de Aguirre and Antonio de Ortiz (in the same household) adult children from previous relationships?
The evidence indicates the Antonio de Aguirre rancho in both padrons may have served a blended household (or perhaps Antonio and Isabel made an ongoing relationship official with their 1666 marriage).
Antonio de Aguirre's siblings were born in the 1620s-1630s. He probably was born during the same period (c1620-1639), making him old enough to easily have children from a previous marriage or relationship.
Wikitree guesses Isabel's date of birth as c1640 (some online pedigrees fix it as late as 1655), but if she had adult children in 1669, then her date of birth should be revised to reflect an earlier window for reproductivity - perhaps closing shortly after her marriage to Antonio de Aguirre (this would make her age more aligned with husband's age as well as her parent's ages and date of marriage: 1613).
THIS BEGS THE QUESTION, are Juana, Ynés, Joachin and Gaspar (the unidentified adult Gómez relatives listed in the household of Antonio de Aguirre in the 1669 Padron) also Isabel's children from a previous relationship (or Antonio's children with Isabel born prior to their marriage)?
Does anyone have any thoughts or information on this?
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1st Generation of the Gaspar Gómez Family
1. Gaspar Gómez
d. bef30 Jun 1688
cc Magdalena Gutiérrez AKA de Ayala
2nd Generation of the Gaspar Gómez Family
1.1 Joseph Gomez (Español)
cc 1688 Ana de Avalos (mestiza), daughter of Francisco de Abalos & Francisca de Retamossa
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VY9N-L7
1.2 Agueda Gomez (Española)
cc 1693 Gabriel Ortiz (Español), son of Gabriel Ortiz de Anda (Español, mestizo) & Josepha de Ortega (mestiza)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VY9F-8Y
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RJ-H
1.3 Antonio Gomez
n. 1683
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K9F7-9
Three more transcriptions I found since my last post on the topic.
From image 30 of the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:
Cassa de Joseph Sanches
Joseph Sanches Esp C++ [husband of Aldonza Ortiz of about 4 years at this time]
Aldonza ortiz de Aguirre Esp++ [Aldonza uses both parents' surnames despite being born almost 10 years before their marriage in 1666]
Nicolas de Aguirre niño de 9 años [son of Antonio de Aguirre and Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz, younger brother of Aldonza]
Pasqual Delacruz Y C++ [Servant?]
thereza Ma Y ++ [Servant?]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYNC
From image 31 of the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:
Cassa de Cat.n de Ortega
Cat.n de Ortega Esp V++ [Catalina de Ortega, viuda de Bartolome Martín]
Nicolas martín Esp s++ [son of Catalina de Ortega and Bartolome Martín]
P.o martín C++ Ynes gomes ++ [Pedro Martín, son of Catalina de Ortega and Bartolome Martín. Husband of Ynes Gómez]
Ysabel martin Esp s++ [daughter of Pedro Martín and Ynés Gómez, namesake of Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz?]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KY6R
From the 15 May 1663 marriage record of Pedro Martín and Ynés Hortis:
"... Pedro Martin hijo legítímo de Bartolome Martín Ya difunto. y de catalina de Ortega. con Ynes Hortiz naturales y Vezinos de este Villa [no parents given for Ynes] ..."
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RT-K
Ynés Gómez AKA Hortis uses both of Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz's surnames, and likely named her daughter after Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz.
Given the date of marriage between Pedro Martin and Ynés Gómez AKA Hortis (1663), Ynés Gómez AKA Hortis would have been born at the latest about 1648, placing the date of birth for Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz (possible mother of Ynés) in the early 1630's at the latest - perfectly aligned with the date of birth for her husband, Antonio de Aguirre (1635) and her parents' date of marriage (1613). This leaves Isabel about 35 years of age at the time of her 1666 marriage with enough time left in her reproductive window to bear his sons, Juan de Aguirre and Nicolas de Aguirre.
1. We know it is almost certain Isabel Gómez AKA Ortis was born closer to the 1620's/early 1630's than the Wikitree guessed date of birth 1640.
2. We know Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz had at least once child (Aldonsa Ortiz) about 9 years prior to her marriage to Antonio de Aguirre.
3. Like Isabel, Ynés uses both surnames: Gómez and Ortiz (Hortis).
4. The Isabel Martín living with Pedro Martín and Ynés Gómez AKA Hortis in the 1676 Padron is likely their daughter (named after Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz?)
5. If Ynés Gómez AKA Hortis is the daughter of Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz, then the other Gómez family members listed with her in the 1669 Padron are also likely her children: Juana (daughter or sister), Joachin and Gaspar.
It isn't a smoking gun, but it's compelling circumstantial evidence. I'm hoping someone here may have information to help prove this hypothesis and link our ancestor, Gaspar Gómez, to Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz and the Gómez de Portugal Family.
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***Unproven children in italics***
1st Generation of the Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz Family
1. Pedro Gómez de Portugal
cc Isabel Ortiz de Anda
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KW84-V
2nd Generation of the Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz Family
1.1 Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz
1st cc?
2nd cc 1666 Antonio de Aguirre (Español)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5YL-F
3rd Generation of the Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz Family
Known and suspected children of Isabel Gomez AKA Ortiz born to her prior to her 1666 marriage with Antonio de Aguirre:
1.1.1 Ynes Gómez AKA Hortiz (Española)
cc 1663 Pedro Martin (Español)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RT-K
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KTXV
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KY6R
1.1.2 Gaspar Gómez
d. bef30 Jun 1688
cc (prob c1666-c1668) Magdalena Gutierrez AKA de Ayala
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KTXV
1.1.3 Joachin Gómez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KTXV
1.1.4 Aldonsa Ortiz (mestiza, Española)
cc 1672 José Sánchez (mestizo, Español)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5Y1-W
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYNC
1.1.5 Antonio de Ortiz
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYM7
Known children born to Isabel Gómez AKA Ortiz after her 1666 marriage with Antonio de Aguirre:
1.1.6 Juan de Aguirre (Español)
n. c1666
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYM7
1.1.7 Nicolas de Aguirre (mestizo)
n. c1667
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG2J-748
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KYNC
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UPDATE: Transcriptions from 1676 Padron and Marriage Record