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Hello Rosa,

My mtdna test results placed me in the H1 Haplogroup also. My known mtdna direct line ancestors dating back to 1620 were from Madeira, Portugal.

Here's my test results: H1 Haplogroup
HVR1 (1st Segment) 16172C, 16519C
HVR2 (2nd Segment) 74G, 263G, 315.1C

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

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From: "gonzalez rosa"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:20:09 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Updated Enriquez-Romo & Gutierrez-Gutierrez ancestry

Hello primos y primas,

A special thanks to so many of you who have guided me over the past year! It's because of you that I have been able to see my family tree bloom! I recently obtained my mtDNA results and have discovered my maternal ancestors are Haplogroup H1. I've updated my paternal and maternal ancestry with a focus on my maternal line. This is all so very exciting! Now, I'm looking for my gggggggreat grandmother's parents. My maternal line is at a roadblock with Isabel (Ysabel)de Calderon Orozco who married Diego Delgadillo. Do you have the key to unlock the mystery? Thank you very much!

Hola primos y Primas,

Gracias a todos ustedes que me han guiado en el último año!
Un agradecimiento especial a ustedes que me han guiado durante todo el año pasado! Recientemente he obtenido los resultados de mi mtDNA y descubrí que mis antepasados maternos son haplogrupo H1. He actualizado mi ascendencia paterna y materna con un enfoque en mi línea materna. Todo esto es tan emocionante! Ahora, estoy buscando a los padres de mi abuelita. Mi línea materna es en una barricada con Isabel (Ysabel) de Calderón Orozco, quien se casó con Diego Delgadillo. ¿Tiene la llave para abrir el misterio? Muchas gracias!

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18997

besitos
Rosa

Alguien podría decirme donde puedo conseguir unas copias de la sagrada mitra o bien decirme si es un libro del que pueda conseguir un ejemplar y donde lo podria conseguir?

Raul Hurtado Pérez

Patricia:

Por fin estoy en casa en Washington y pude buscar la información que me pediste sobre Abundio Medina Peña. No aparece ninguna dispensa bajo ese nombre ni el de su mujer María Josefa Michel. Las dispensas bajo el apellido Michel son las próximas:

Antonia Michel
Diego Michel
Juana Michel
Marcos Michel
María Andrea Michel
Nicolasa Michel

Las dispensas en el libro de Luz Montejano llegan solamente a mediados del Siglo XVIII así que un matrimonio de 1820 no queda dentro de la gama de su obra.

Patricia:

Yo tengo una copia de ese libro.

Si puedes esperar hasta el fin de semana te pueda buscar la informacion.

Pero creo que las fechas de las tres personas al fin de tu mensaje, si todos son de los anos 1840-1870, seran muy recientes para que exista informacion en el libro de Luz Montejano.

No se si leiste mi mensaje anterior sobre poner una biblioteca virtual en el sitio, pero con tu pedido de informacion, ya me diste una razon mas por la cual implementar esa biblioteca virtual.

I have Oviedo in my files and by the way, there is a rancho de Robles in the
district of Jerez Zacatecas Mexico too.  My records are posted on Rootsweb.com. 
My file name is named Mexico then go to index or put the name Oviedo to see if
you recognize anyone.. I do not have the names you mentions in my files though.
I'm afraid my Oviedo records only go back to abt 1825 or so.

Linda in Marietta

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From: "hrhmichaeldc@yahoo.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 1:24:47 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Oviedo surname in Teúl de González Ortega, Zac. (And
links to Campos, Robles, Munos, Vasquez, Correa, Arellano, etc.)

Hello! Over the last year I have been searching for ancestors from my many lines
that go into the 1700's... I recently found an ancestor with the surname
'Oviedo' (written "Obiedo" in the IGI many times over; However, I will write it
with a 'v')... I've been looking around, but there doesn't seem to be many
'Oviedo' lines in other researchers surname lists... Has anyone heard of this
surname, or possibly stumbled upon it in your family research? It's odd to me
that it has been in the area for a long time, as many others have, yet it isn't
absolutely everywhere!

My last known ancestor (as of yet!) with this surname was Francisco Xavier De
Oviedo, who was married to Maria Rosalia De Campos (most likely in the 1760s) in
Teúl de González Ortega, Zacatecas. Their daughter, Maria Eusebia De Oviedo
married Joaquin De Robles (parents: Juan Maria De Robles & Maria Josefa
Gutierres) and had, among other children, Jose Ciriaco Robles Oviedo (b. 17 Jun
1809 in Teúl de González Ortega).

Jose Ciriaco in turn married Desideria Munos and had Maria de la Cruz Robles
(and other children mostly circa 1830s)... which brings me down to a more
"touchable" generation (Still about 150 years away, haha!): This all comes
through my paternal grandmother's paternal grandmother, Nicolaza Vasquez y
Robles (Maria de la Cruz's daughter) who married Ramon Correa y Arellano. All of
their children (including my grandmother's father, Leopoldo Correa y Vasquez,
b.1898) were born at Rancho Los Robles, which I believe is in the outskirts of
the town of Huitzila in Teúl de González Ortega (where my grandmother María de
Jesús Correa Uribe was born circa 1925 - But I still cannot find her birth
record!).

I apologize for the information overload and many run-on sentences! I know my
main question is about my Oviedo ancestors, but I thought I'd kill a couple
birds with one stone. Maybe someone will see something that catches their eye...
Thank You!

Michael D. Castro

VIVA MEXICO! Best wishes on the Bicentennial of Mexico's Independence.
I had the pleasure of attending the celebration held at the Kennedy Center for
the Performing Arts in Washington, DC. Super big crowd, lots of music.
El Grito was given by the Ambassador of Mexico to the USA. And spectacular fireworks.
And - I had a chance meeting with NR's Arturo Ramos as we were leaving.
We had a great time. VIVA MEXICO!

Hi Amy,

If you look at the Nuestros Ranchos web site, under the "GEDCOM" tab, Laureana is in a tree by Leticia Salazar. It states her parents' names are Felipe Llanos y Valdez and Antonia Minjares. According to the same tree, Justo's parents are Fernando Carlos and Manuela Delgado.

There are no sources listed, but maybe you could email Leticia for more information. Just so you know, I too descend from the Llanos y Valdes family, so no doubt we're related!

Rosalinda

crees que éste sea tu pariente?
tal vez te sirva de referencia el número de film y batch
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordResults&p…

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Name
Juan Joseph Carlos Llanos

Gender
Male

Baptism/Christening Date
01 Mar 1764

Baptism/Christening Place
JEREZ, JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS, ZACATECAS, MEXICO

Birth Date

Birthplace

Death Date

Name Note

Race

Father's Name
Justo Carlos

Father's Birthplace

Father's Age

Mother's Name
Rita Lauriana De Llanos Y Baldes

Mother's Birthplace

Mother's Age

Paternal Grandfather's Name

Paternal Grandmother's Name

Maternal Grandfather's Name

Maternal Grandmother's name

Indexing Project (Batch) Number
C60080-3

System Origin
Mexico-ODM

Source Film Number
439846

Reference Number

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Name
Joseph Grego. Nacianceno Carlos Baldes

Gender
Male

Baptism/Christening Date
15 May 1758

Baptism/Christening Place
JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICO

Birth Date

Birthplace

Death Date

Name Note

Race

Father's Name
Justo Carlos

Father's Birthplace

Father's Age

Mother's Name
Rita Lauriana Baldes

Mother's Birthplace

Mother's Age

Paternal Grandfather's Name

Paternal Grandmother's Name

Maternal Grandfather's Name

Maternal Grandmother's name

Indexing Project (Batch) Number
C60080-2

System Origin
Mexico-ODM

Source Film Number
unknown

Reference Number

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Name
Juan De Llanos Y Valdez

Gender
Male

Baptism/Christening Date
27 Feb 1687

Baptism/Christening Place
Inmaculada, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico

Birth Date

Birthplace
Jeres

Death Date

Name Note

Race

Father's Name
Juan Joseph De Llanos Y Valdez

Father's Birthplace

Father's Age

Mother's Name
Marcela Ramos

Mother's Birthplace

Mother's Age

Paternal Grandfather's Name

Paternal Grandmother's Name

Maternal Grandfather's Name

Maternal Grandmother's name

Indexing Project (Batch) Number
C02606-4

System Origin
Mexico-EASy

Source Film Number
439844

Reference Number
yr 1648-1654

Amy, all I could find is this:

Their son's baptism IGI. Have you tried ordering the film # 439846 to see if the grandparents' names are there?

Name Juan Joseph Carlos Llanos
Gender Male
Baptism/Christening Date 01 Mar 1764
Baptism/Christening Place Jerez, Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Justo Carlos
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Rita Lauriana De Llanos Y Baldes
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Paternal Grandfather's Name
Paternal Grandmother's Name
Maternal Grandfather's Name
Maternal Grandmother's name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60080-3
System Origin Mexico-EASy
Source Film Number 439846
Reference Number 2:1X361HC

Jose Carlos de Leon

I have found some films that are all mixed up. You may have to look at the
entire film to find your record.
Esther

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:40 PM, wrote:

> I can't find this person's baptism in the images available online. Is there
> someone that can help or already have info on him?
> No encuentro la imagen del bautismo de esta persona. ¿Hay alquien que la
> puede localizar o proporcionar datos de el y sus ancestros?
>
> Name: Luiz Antonio Lozano Romo
> Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Sep 1758
> Baptism/Christening Place: EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Joseph Luziano Lozano
> Mother's Name: Michaela Romo
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60484-3
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 299532
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
> Su mamá es Antonia Michaela Romo de Vivar hija de Miguel Romo de Vivar y
> Ana Macias Valadez del Sauz de Macias.
>
> Se casó el 25 de noviembre 1789 en Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, México con
> Margarita Reyes Luévano (Padres : Miguel de los Reyes y Josefa Luévano)
>
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
> Armando

Armando,

I, too, did a search; but to no avail. I searched several pages beyond the
baptismal date, but no luck. Also, I searched other parishes in Ags.

Paul Gomez

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis Antonio Lozano Romo de Vivar Macias Valadez

I can't find this person's baptism in the images available online. Is there
someone that can help or already have info on him?
No encuentro la imagen del bautismo de esta persona. ¿Hay alquien que la
puede localizar o proporcionar datos de el y sus ancestros?

Name: Luiz Antonio Lozano Romo
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Sep 1758
Baptism/Christening Place: EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name: Joseph Luziano Lozano
Mother's Name: Michaela Romo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60484-3
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 299532
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

Su mamá es Antonia Michaela Romo de Vivar hija de Miguel Romo de Vivar y Ana
Macias Valadez del Sauz de Macias.

Se casó el 25 de noviembre 1789 en Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, México con
Margarita Reyes Luévano (Padres : Miguel de los Reyes y Josefa Luévano)
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
3012&r=r_740844194&pn=p4

Armando

Connie,
Here's something that may help you get started:

*Juan *is listed with the following names: *Juan Belasqs., Juan de Dios
Belasqs., Juan Belasques, Juan Velasques.
Marcela Cervantes, Serbantes, Marselina Cervantes, Ma. Marsela*

They had the following children:
1. *Jose Gregorio Belasqs*. *Cervantes*, ch. 14 May 1827, Santa Maria de
Los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco* [film #0221430, Batch #C604151, Serial
#03590 (1824-1828)]*

2. *Maria Carlos Belasqs. Cervantes*, ch. 9 November 1828, Santa Maria de
Los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco* [film #0221431, Batch #C604152, Serial
#00464 (1828-1832)]*

3. *Juan Nepomo. Belasques Cervantes*, ch. 23 May 1830, Santa Maria de Los
Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco* [film #0221431, Batch #C604152, Serial
#02203 (1828-1832)]*

4. *Ma. Teodora Belasqs. Cervantes*, ch. 11 Apr. 1833, Santa Maria de Los
Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco* [film #0221432, Batch #C604153, Serial
#00601 (1832-1835)]*

5. Jose Serapio Belasques Serbantes, ch. 12 Sep. 1841, Santa Maria de Los
Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco* [film #0221434, Batch #C604155, Serial
#03024 (1828-1832)]*

You can go to any LDS Family History Center in your area and I'm sure they
will be happy to help you with any question you may have. I will check on
Wednesday in some of our records for Lagos and if I find a film I will copy
the record and send it to you. If I find any other information I'll send
that also.

Good luck to you.

-Esther Jordan Lopez

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:28 AM, wrote:

> Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Connie and I am starting my
> work on my family in Lagos de Moreno Jalisco, not sure how to go about this
> and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GGGG grandfather Juan De
> Dios Velasques b. abt 1806 Married Marcela Cervantes b. abt 1806 in Santa
> Maria De Los Lagos on 30 Aug 1826. Thank You for any information on where
> and how to start my search in Mexico.

Hi Gilbert, Did you ever get your answer? I recently got back on Nuestros Ranchos and started going thru the Forum. I noticed there was no response to you. I know its been a while since you question. FYI, I had both my y-DNA and mtDNA done with Genetree. -Jaime

Should be "La Labor", a very common name for ranches-

Debe ser "La Labor", un nombre muy comun para los ranchos.

Miguel Beltran

Armando. En los archivos de Nuestros Rachos, tengo los padres y los hijos de Juan De Villalobos y Petra Galvan. Hay dos hermanos de apellidos Moreno casados con los hijos de Juan y Petra, muy seguro tengan relación con Petra Moreno. Bajo el apellido Villalobos Celestino. Tal vez te ayude.

--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Armando wrote:

> From: Armando
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villalobos, González de Rubalcava, Moreno, Gallardo, Martín del Campo etc de Lagos de Moreno
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:48 PM
> Hello everyone, I just received a
> copy of the second marriage of José Maria
> Villalobos and with the names of his parents I think I have
> found a large
> number of his ancestors on pilot search and Geneanet and I
> am hoping for
> verification and help with further research especially
> since they hopefully
> tie into some trees of others on here.
>
> Hola a todos, acabo de recibir una copia del segundo
> matrimonio de José
> María Villalobos con los nombres de sus padres y con esos
> nombres he
> encontrado mas información usando pilot y Geneanet y pido
> la ayuda de Uds.
> en verificación de datos y aportes para poder seguir la
> investigación.
>
> En el registro del bautismo dice lo siguiente  -
> José María Villalobos Español de la Mesa Redonda h.l. de
> D. Juan José
> Villalobos y de Da. Ygnacia Gonzales.
>
> I found the marriage of the parents on pilot with the
> following info -
> Encontré el matrimonio de los padres y sigue -
>
> Groom's Name: Juan Jose Villalobos
> Bride's Name: Maria Ygnacia Gonzales
> Marriage Date: 19 May 1779
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De
> Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Groom's Father's Name: Juan De Villalobos
> Groom's Mother's Name: Petra Galban
> Bride's Father's Name: Pedro Gonzales
> Bride's Mother's Name: Petra Moreno
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-6
> Source Film Number: 221517
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
>
> I then looked up the parents of Ygnacia and found the
> following -
> Name: Maria Ygnacia Lucrecia De San Joseph Gonsales Moreno
> Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Nov 1764
> Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS
> DE
> MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Pedro Gonsales
> Mother's Name: Petra Moreno
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60413-2
> Source Film Number: 221413
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
> I looked up their parents and I found the following -
> Groom's Name: Pedro Gonzales De Rubalcava
> Bride's Name: Anna Petra Moreno Gamino
> Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1745
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De
> Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Groom's Father's Name: Nicolas Gonzales De Rubalcava
> Groom's Mother's Name: Maria Gallegos
> Bride's Father's Name: Nicolas Moreno Gallardo
> Bride's Mother's Name: Maria Getrudis Moreno Gamino
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-3
> Source Film Number: 221514
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
>
> When I looked up Gonzalez and Gallegos in pilot I found the
> following -
> Groom's Name: Nicolas Gonsales
> Bride's Name: Maria De La Encarnacion Gallegos
> Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1723
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De
> Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Groom's Father's Name: Melchor Gonsales
> Groom's Mother's Name: Maria De Ysasi Y Campo
> Bride's Father's Name: Gabriel Gallegos
> Bride's Mother's Name: Getrudis Macias
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-2
> Source Film Number: 221513
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
>
> When I looked up Melchor I found the following -
> Groom's Name: Melchor Gonsales De Robalcaba
> Bride's Name: Maria De Yssassi
> Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1690
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De
> Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Gonsales De Robalcaba
> Groom's Mother's Name: Ana Gonsales Florida
> Bride's Father's Name: Nicolas Martin Del Campo
> Bride's Mother's Name: Sebastiana De Yssassi
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-1
> Source Film Number: 221512
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
>
> When I looked up Nicolas Martin del Campo I found the
> following -
> Groom's Name: Nicolas Martin Del Campo
> Bride's Name: Sebastiana Munos De Ysassi
> Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1663
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De
> Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60412-1
> Source Film Number: 221404
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
>
> In Geneanet.org I have found the ancestors of* *Nicolás
> Martín del Campo
> López de la Cruz** thanks to both Javier Sanchiz Ruiz and
> Francisco Martín
> Lara.
> En Geneanet.org encontré los antepasados de Nicolás
> Martín del Campo López
> de la Cruz gracias a Javier Sanchiz Ruiz y Francisco
> Martín Lara.
>
> When I looked up Moreno and Gallardo I found the following
> -
> Name: Joseph Manuel Moreno Salazar
> Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1699
> Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS
> DE
> MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Miguel Moreno De Ortega
> Mother's Name: Catharina De Salazar Gallardo
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-3
> Source Film Number: 221405
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
> I am looking for the ancestors of -
> Busco la ascendencia de los siguientes -
> Juan José Villalobos Galvan b. 1740 en Lagos de Moreno
> Ana Petra Moreno de Ortega y Gamiño
> María Gallegos Macias
> Jospeh González de Rubalcava and his wife Ana González
> Florida
>
>
> Un saludo cordial,
>
> Armando

Hola Armando, e puedo ayudar. Tengo un base de datos bastante grande.
Necesito estudiar mas de esto Moreno y Gaminos y villalobos Galvan pero
sobre los Gallegos Macias te puedo ayudar.

Gabriel Gallegos caso Maria Getrudis Dominguez el 21 Feb 1700 en
Aguascalientes. Eran hijos de Gabriel Gallegos y Juliana Gutierrez Guerrero
Sebastian Macias Valadez y Josepha Dominguez. En varios regstros Gertruds
parece como Dominguez o Macias Valadez, es la misma. Ella se bautzo 6 jan 1681
en Aguascalientes. Sebastian era hijo de Joseph Macias Valadez y Catalina Oran
de la Vega y caso a Josepha Dominguez el 5 Feb 1680 en Aguas con josepha Dominguez
hija de Juan Hernandez Gamino y Ana Maria Dominguez.

El Capt. Joseph Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba era hijo del Capt. Fulgencio Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba.
Joseph se bautizo 15 apr 1620 en LAgos murio 21 nov 1679 en Lagos. Ana Gonzalez Florida era
hija de Francisco Munoz de la Barba y Catarina Gutierrez Rubio

Daniel

Armando -

I can't help with any specifics on the names you give but I can tell you
that I came across a book on Borderlandsbooks.com that has been helpful to
me with my research.
The title is "Bautismos, Matrimonios y Defunciones, en el Primer Siglo de
Santa Maria de los Lagos". As the title infers it is a transcription of the
baptismal, marriage, and death records that exist for the first century of
its existence. The book is in Spanish and it predates the individuals that
you are looking for but the surnames you mentioned appear repeatedly so it
may behoove you to get a copy of the book.

-Angelina-