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Here is list of microfilm numbers to order for Hacienda San Mateo of Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/kehs3c.jpg

Here is a list of microfilm numbers that you can order to look at:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/1si4oi.jpg

Does anyone have ancestors from here? Does anyone know the history? I just realized today that the official name is San Jose de los Marquez. Some of my family from there is Marquez. Also Galvan & Villegas.

Thanks,
Laura Gonzalez

A town dance or gathering during colonial times. Meeting people from other villages, towns, haciendas, ranchos at the dance.

With proper manners. Approaching someone and politely ask...."May I invite you to the floor for a dance?"

Then while dancing and chatting, she says she is from nearby Hacienda.

They must have met like that.

I am asking if anyone has connection to the "Angon" surname in the Zacatecas/Jalisco area?

I want to see if any of you can make a connection to "Joan (Juan) Angon" who was in Zacatecas very early in the first half of the 1600's. He supposedly had a son name Esteban Angon.

And I want to see if any of you have connections with them?

My 7th generation great grandmother name "Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655 - 1735) who is the wife of my 7th generation great grandfather "Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709) lived at Minillas, Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico.

I would think that Maria De La Candelaria Angon was the daughter of Esteban Angon and grand-dauther of Joan (Juan) De Angon who were in a rancho nearby in Zacatecas.

I am having trouble locating marriage or birth records for Clara Ruiz de Esparza from Aguascalientes. She married Juan Antonio Chagolla. I know they had one daughter, Maria Bernada Chagolla that died in 1782.

Questions:
I have read that there was a founding family in Aguascalientes that was named Ruiz de Esparza. Is there a list and/or family tree published of their descendants?

Does anyone else have information about Clara Ruiz de Esparza and Juan Chagolla?

Is there a list of Spanish surnames of the families in Aguascalientes in the 1600s?

I would appreciate any help. Thank you.

I am looking for descendants of Descendants of Jose Maria Gonzalez and Maria de Jesus Navarro. They were married on 30/Oct/1815 in Tepatitlan Jalisco

I have as their children :

Jose Sebastian Gonzalez Navarro
Jose Pragedis Gonzalez Navarro
Jose Leocadio Rafael Gonzalez Navarro aka Rafael Gonzalez Navarro
Maria Isidra de la Merced Gonzalez Navarro

Rafael Gonzalez Navarro married Aleja Gutierrez (daughter of Loreto Gutierrez and Prudencia Gomez)

Many of their descendants were born in Pegueros and I would like to connect with those lines.

Jose Maria Gonzalez is the son of Antonio Gonzalez and Maria de Jesus was baptized Maria Agapita de Jesus and is the daughter of Juan Antonio Navarro and Margarita Gutierrez.

Maria Agapita de Jesus Navarro Gutierrez was married twice. I descend from her other marriage.

Thanks
R A Ricci

I found this link that has information on colonial Zacatecas that this person did research on:

http://www.academia.edu/290415/Urban_Indians_in_a_Colonial_Silver_City_…

Hi everyone,

I'm very happy to have found this group and I just wanted to briefly introduce myself. My name is Jean Guerrero, I'm a KPBS reporter in San Diego, previously with the Wall Street Journal in Mexico City. For the past several years I have been working on a reported family memoir about my paternal family's migration from Mexico to the U.S. My great great grandparents, Gregorio Valenzuela and Juana Velasquez, were born in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas. My great grandfather, Antonio Valenzuela, was born to them in 1901 in Rancho de Encinillas in the same pueblo.

I will be posting on the genealogy research forum with specific questions. Nice to e-meet everyone! And thanks for accepting me into the group.

Sincerely,
Jean

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Dear Friends and Family:

As Cinco de Mayo events take place all over the United States, celebrating Mexico's historic victory against a superior French military force, a movement is taking place in Washington, D.C. to remove the early Colonial Spanish contributions of Father Junipero Serra from public view.

A statue of Father Serra is in the U.S. Capitol's National Statuary Hall. A resolution was approved by the Senate Governmental Organization Committee. There is an article in the May issue; the last item under the United States.

Evidence of the early historic Spanish colonial period is seriously lacking in Washington, D.C.. The statue has been in place since 1931.
The suggestion is to replace it with a statue of Los Angeles astronaut Sally Ride. It seems that a better location for a statue of Sally Ride would be in the Space Museum.

I hope we can hold on to any evidence of our Spanish/Indigenous ancestor's historic presence in the United States, particularly in the Washington, D.C. area, and build on it, rather than see it slowly disappear. AS the Latino population increases, our future needs to know our past.

God bless America, Mimi

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Does anyone know how to look up wills in Aguascalientes?

Aguien sabe el nombre del Notario o escribano publico que pudo llevar los testamentos del area de Tlaltenango por el año de 1649? Y si alguien ya tuvo esa experiencia de la busqueda de testamentos me gustaria saber por donde buscar.

I have relocated to the Baja ( México). My computer is in transit & also I do not have Internet service yet. When I get up & running, you will get my doc's. Thanx

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alguna novedad o noticias sobre las documentaciones donde
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es descendiente del emperador moctezua?

agradezco la atención prestada

saludos

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Hello, could someone tell me where "La Joya" is located? I believe I found a document from a relative that states he is from La Joya, Mexico. I found a census showing a person with the same name and age circa in Jalisco. Is there a 'La Joya" in Jalisco, and if so, what town would I search for his birth records? Thank you

Now I need some help with Información matrimonial. I found a record in FamilySearch for Placido Xavier and Maria Antonia Bernardina De Los Reyes with a marriage date of 4 May 1757 in El Sagragrio. I have looked at all of the records for the month of May 1757 and I cannot see anything.

I will admit that I am a little confused by the different types of documents that I am seeing, so I am asking for help. I have looked at pages 178 - 239. I had the same problem with baptismal certificates until someone explained them, so now I need help with marriages.

Very helpful thanks!!
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I refer to these from time to time when I don't quite get the words. Hope it
helps you and anyone else.
https://script.byu.edu/Pages/Spanish/es/givennameabbr.aspx
https://script.byu.edu/Pages/Spanish/es/abbrAtoE.aspx
https://script.byu.edu/Pages/Spanish/es/surnameabbr.aspx They have proved
very valuable to me.

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My 7th Generation Great Grandparents are:

Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709) and Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655 - 1735)
First pic is the defunto of Maria De La Candelaria Angon (year 1735):

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2zqwnlx.jpg

Second pic is defunto of Anna Delgado (year 1736)who I am wondering if she was another women of his???:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/jfg3s9.jpg

Both say they are the mujer of "Antonio Madera" and of Minillas.

But my line is from Antonio Madera/Maria De La Candelaria Angon

Third Pic Is the marriage record of Manuela Madera the daughter of Antonio Madera/Maria De La Candelaria Angon. Which is dated 3/2/1709. And it clearly gives reference that "Antonio Madera defunto" he was already deceased when his daughter Manuela Madera got married.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/16i6pfn.jpg

But the brother of Manuela Madera, Joseph Madera (1686 - 1734) is my 6th Generation Great Grandfather:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mg9jtl.jpg

first I what to say Iam new to the group and I want to say thank you for inviting me to be part of something special. My question is are there any records from 1913- 1917 from jalpa zacatecas, mexico I have seen 1912 and 1918 but not in between thank you.

And, as usual, I forgot to include the link to my folder.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/dgmiv

I uploaded 4 files today for the Surez paternal great grandparents.

In the process of finalizing these charts, I discovered an interesting problem. All of the baptismal certificates of the children of Jose Luis Suarez list their paternal grandparents as Marcelo Suarez and Marcela Sanches. I could only find 1 record for a child of these parents - Jose Santiago Suarez born 25 julio 1814 and baptized 18 julio at El Sagrario. But I did find records for 4 other children, including Jose Norato, that list the mother as Marcela Sanches but give the name of the father as Marcelo Placido. Of course there are no records further back for either Marcelo Suares or Marcelo Placido. Some of the Placido baptimal certificates list his father as unknown, 1 as Jose Placido difunto and several as Xavier Placido. All of them list the paternal grandmother as Maria Antonia Reyes. The record for the grandson Jose Santiago Suarez, lists his paternal grandfather's name as Jose Maria Garcia - but I am convinced that this is the same family, because it gives the same name for his maternal grandparents.

Anyway, any suggestions are appreciated. I am guessing it is too much to hope that anyone is familiar with this family.

Oh, a padrino at the baptism of Jose Santiago is Tomas Placido. When I look at records for his children, they all show paternal grandparents as Xavier Placido and Maria Antonia Reyes. Apparently Tomas and Marcelo were brothers.

While we've made good progress in other lines, we continue to get stuck with the line through Purisima del Rincon. Unfortunately, they didn't include paternal/maternal abuleos in the baptism records. There are lots of abbreviations in Atanasio's baptism record that we're curious about, particularly if the "YeO" is referencing a location or perhaps an indicator that he's "Indio". It seems to be used on some other records in the same volume. We have found 2 siblings, and one has the same abbreviation on his record. Any insight is appreciated.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20545-11939-84?cc=1860831…

(left, 3rd from bottom - Atanasio)

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