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Hola a todos, queria preguntar a los miembros de este grupo si no tienen o si saben donde hay informacion acerca de los genearcas del linage de los Jimenez de Mendoza en Los Altos de Jalisco.
Yo tengo a Nicolas Jimenez y a Juana Regina de Mendoza (hija de Juan Jimenez e Isabel de Olivares), casados aprox. en 1646 en Jalostotitlan, pero no estoy seguro si aqui comience esta descendencia en Los Altos o no.
Alguien sabe si Nicolas Jimenez era espanol o mestizo?

Hello everyone, I would like to ask the members of this group if they have or know where to obtain information on the Jimenez de Mendoza lineage in Los Altos de Jalisco.
I have Nicolas Jimenez and Juana Reegina de Mendoza (daughter of Juan Jimenez and Isabel de Olivares), married in aprox. 1646 in Jalostotitlan, but I'm not sure if this is where this lineage begins in Los Altos.
Also, does anyone know if Nicolas Jimenez was spanish or mestizo?

Gracias,

Ricardo Rodriguez

Hello Steve,

I jumped three feet in the air when I read that you wrote :

" I want to step in and present what I
> have collected on certain Alteño branches and additional lines NOT in
> Retoños such as Aldana, Barajas, Gutiérrez de Híjar, Hernández Gamiño,
> Marentes de Otadui y Avendaño, Nuño Rasura de Laín Calvo, Ornelas,
> Sánchez de Mendoza, Vital-Ibarra de Anguiano, and few others. "

I have worked on some of these families myself. I was disappointed when I did not find these lines in Mariano Gonzalez leal's books. My mother in laws great grandmother is Aldana, and she has Vital-Ibarra and Hernandez gamino also from arandas and Ayo el Chico. I also have done some work on the Marentes lines in Jalos and Tepa.
Have you done any work on Suazo and Carmona lines?

Good luck on your research.
Rick A Ricci

Do you include any information on the Lozano family in the book that you are
developing for Nueva Galicia? I too would be interested in a purchase.
Thanks for the hard work that you are doing in this research effort.

Bob Lozano

news: for some odd reason they split up some dispensations into parts, essentially renumbering some part of the original. this will affect the page number many of these marriages can be found on.

what do you guys want me to do in regard to my guadalajara dispensation indexes? renumber the indexs i already made or just leave them be and make future indexes based on the new organization of these collections.
http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/

i also might change the theme/layout of that blog, but that's another story

What's the name of that book again? Some of my family comes from those
Haciendas.

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> Thanks to all who responded to my question about this book. I was able to
> obtain it through Interlibrary Loan and I have this copy (from Occidental
> College Library) until May 12. Based on my cursory glance through the book,
> I do not expect to find anything helpful for my own research. (I had been
> hopeful that Hacienda El Salto would be mentioned.)
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> But I am listing the Table of Contents here in case other members might
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> to order the book for their own research:
> I. Como encontraron la Tierra los Conquistadores
> II. Algunas Mercedes del Siglo XVI
> III. Reestructuraciones del Siglo XVII
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> Toluquilla; Cabezon; Portillo; Mazatepec; Ahuacapan Miraflores; Ledezma; La
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> Sauceda; Buenavista.
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> Unfortunately there is no index, so it is very difficult to find
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Benigno Galaviz who were his parents ? he lived in jalpa area in the 1900s not sure when he was born. He married Teresa Lopez had a daughter in June 13 ,1934 named Antonia Galaviz she died in October 10,1999 in jalpa zac. its really important to find Benigno to solve the mystery Why Benigno Galaviz claimed to be Aniceto Duran Lozano half brother(my grandfather)with different surnames. In 1896 Jose Guadalupe Duran marries Maria Galaviz and has a daughter in 1897 Maria Guadalupe Duran. Then by 1910 Jose Guadalupe Duran is married to Gregoria Lozano and have a son Trinidad Duran born in jalpa area then three more kids with her one is my grandfather Aniceto Duran born in april 1915 my question is where does Benigno come in hope to find some truth in all this thanks to anyone who take time to read this and maybe help me find an answer.

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I didn't see any previous topics that discussed this guide so I hope I'm not bringing something forward that's already known to members. If it's already out there, it never hurts to remind everyone.

At over 1000 pages, The new Guide to the Archives of the Church in Spain, the first volume in the collection of «Computer Tools for Consulting Church Archives in Spain», contains a detailed and updated description of the one hundred and sixty largest ecclesiastical archives in Spain (cathedral, diocesan, monastic and convent)and also of the 23,000 parish archives belonging to the sixty seven dioceses of the Church in Spain.

Hopefully this aids those of you that may be able to trace your ancestors to Spain.

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I would like to thank a fellow nuestrorancho member who found this defunto record of my 5th Generation GGF Blas Madera who passed away in 1776 in Huejuquilla El Alto married to a second wife:

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2qai93a.jpg

Blas Madera was originally from Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico who got married in 1728 with Maria Theresa Avila, is the son of Joseph Madera/Josepha Josepha Basquez. In that matrimonio he was classified as a "Mestizo"

http://oi61.tinypic.com/fuynah.jpg

He had two sons: Francisco Madera (1723 - 1790) and Lazaro Madera (? - 1783) who show up at Rancho De Los Maderas of Huejuquilla. I am descended from Francisco Madera.

Maria Theresa Avila passes away and Blas Madera remarries with Maria Lorensa Magallanes in 1768 in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco Mexico:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/i52eix.jpg

Then he passes away in 1776 and labeles as a "mulatto libre?" That is odd! His parents in his 1728 marriage record in Mezquitic are labeled as "espanoles"

But I don't have the baptism record of Blas Madera. In his defunto record it says he left a "testamento" also says he had 3 missas resadas and that something about "no la escucho por la distancia de su rancho donde murio."

He passed away at Rancho De Los Maderas (today San Jose De Maderas) of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-42719-12370-50?cc=1937239…

Hi Cynthia,
Julián Romo de Vivar's father Baltasar Romo de Vivar is my 9th Great Grandfather. I descend from Baltasar's second wife, Francisca de Lomelín. Julián Romo de Vivar is the child of Baltasar Romo de Vivar and his first wife, Catarina Muñoz de la Barba. The record you're looking for is in the same roll of film you're in, but, image 290.
Mexico, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records, 1620-1962, Aguascalientes, Asunción de María, Bautismos, 1701-1719, Image 290 of 511
First one on the left:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13033-26066-6?cc=1502404&w…
Christopher de Cuellar

Mr. Ricci there is a Hurtado de Mendoza on wikipedia married to a De Luna
and his father Diego Hurtado de Medoza was also married to a De Luna.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8D%C3%B1igo_L%C3%B3pez_de_Mendoza_y_L…

Danny C. Alonso

Hello, has anyone researched through the records in El Sagrario? I'm searching for this entry, but I just can't seem to locate this exact record in Asuncion de Maria - the film number seems slightly off, yet in sequence with the others. I found the year and month on page 68, but there is no listing for July 23. I may just be looking in the wrong place.

Romo Munos
Mexico Baptisms
Name Julian Romo Munos
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Jul 1703
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Baltasar Romo De Vibar
Mother's Name Chatarina Munos De La Barua

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTMZ-WVC : accessed 12 August 2015), Julian Romo Munos, 23 Jul 1703; citing EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,424

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13033-24070-82?cc=1502404&…

Todavia busco a mi tio Eusevio Cortez Alvarado. Proviene de Matansas Jalisco. Hermano...Refugio Cortez. Padres Antonio Cortez y Manuela Alvarado.

Vivia por Tanpico....Gonzales Tamaulipas o Villa Manuel Tamaulipas creo. Si alguen save de el por favor si me pueden ayudar.

Gracias

A current good read is "Jaguar's Children" by John Vaillant, a Canadian living in Mexico.I also know that there were English tin miners who went to live in Mexico in the 1800's. Mexico is a real melting pot of different tribes and cultures. (I joined to research my children's Mexican heritage.)
Katrina Link (in Canada)

Hi Erika,
I'm so glad you Email.
Since you're making a revision, please add the surname Cabrera to mine as
well.
That's my maternal grandmother's -- I forgot to include it.
Many Thanks!!
See you in October!
Gloria

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Danny,

You'll have lots of support along the way with Nuestros Ranchos. Join your
local Latino Genealogical Society wherever you live, it helps to have face
to face contact with other people with similar areas of research. It's a
great opportunity to bounce ideas off of people and to have others assist
you along the way.......where do you live?

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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> for the books to check out. I will go to the library and start looking
> for all of them. I already learned more since joining the Nuestros
> Ranchos Forum than I have in high school.
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Are your children learning that a Spanish/Latino/creole army and navy ran the British out of most of what became the southern U.S. during the Revolutionary War? Check their U.S. history books! If the index doesn't list ”Galvez” and the “Siege of Pensacola” write your school board!

Any book that lists Lafayette but not Galvez is distorting history. IMO.

In case anyone needs this data, here is the Marriage dispensation from Jose Joaquin de Santo Tomas Estevez y Guzman de la Mora and Maria Ygnacia de la Mora, October 22, 1800.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-3826-9?cc=1874591&wc=3…

His daughter, Josefa Rosalia Estevez de la Mora married with my fourth grandfather Francisco Garibay Gutierrez

I noticed many members requesting or looking for the book "Genealogía de Nochistlán antiguo reino de la Nueva Galicia en el siglo XVII según sus archivos parroquiales"

I recently received copies of a couple of chapters and posted them on this site under Files and "Reference Materials" under "Genealogia Nochistlan Capitulos"

It is not many, but it's a start to help some of us.

I want to thank Alicia for taking time and providing the information to me.

Ruben

To the keepers of this website, if it is illegal to post pages from Copyright Books, let me know and I will delete the pages.

I teach American history in a college in Central Texas. The vast majority of text books that I have used here and in Laredo,Texas do not mention Galvez.
Texas education is held hostage by a certain political party that has made a concerted effort to "white wash" both national and state history in our state's textbooks at all age levels. They have encouraged our text books to minimize the contributions of minority figures.

This is why it is important to have minorities such as myself teaching. I include both women and significant minority history makers in my lectures and class assignments. I also make the students see them again on the tests and exams so that they know they have to learn about these people.

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Are your children learning that a Spanish/Latino/creole army and navy ran the British out of most of what became the southern U.S. during the Revolutionary War?  Check their U.S. history books!  If the index doesn't list  ?Galvez? and the ?Siege of Pensacola? write your school board!

Any book that lists Lafayette but not Galvez is distorting history. IMO.

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