Villa de Jerez Zacatecas Mexico

Wow!!  What a blessing.  I still haven't found my Salas Canales b Sombrete Zacatecas.  So I would like to see them.  love ya!  bc

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

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Josie, the 3 films are in the file section, Arturo can give you instructions on retrieving them if you have problems.
 
Good luck in your search.. Linda

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Josie T. Trevino wrote:

From: Josie T. Trevino
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villa de Jerez Zacatecas Mexico
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 9:30 PM

Hi Linda!

I am just catching up on my e-mail that I had not read and noticed your message of March 19th.  I would like to take you up on your offer and would appreciate it if you would send me an attachment of that information also........you are so generous!

One of my evasive ancestors was in Zacatecas in the 1600s and that rascal might just be in Jerez!  His name is Juan Antonio Liendo married to Catalina de la Rosa.  They have been hiding from me for several years but I am determined to find them.....someday!  :-)

Thanks again for sharing!

Josie T. Trevino
Houston, TX

On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
> It just occured to me that there may others researching Jerez Zacatecas who have not recorded all the records.  I copied and recorded every record in the baptismal section of files 0439851 and 0439856, the second one is not in the online records for Familysearch.. If anyone would like a copy of these films I would be happy to send an attachment then you could read them at your leisure.  Since we don't post or use every record there may be some that are of value to you.I am in the process of recording all of baptismal film # 0439849 and 0439852 Jerez baptism.Linda in Everett
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Thank you, Linda! I went to the file section and downloaded what you
have. I will certainly look through this.

Again, thanks for being so generous!

Josie

On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

> Josie, the 3 films are in the file section, Arturo can give you
> instructions on retrieving them if you have problems.
>
> Good luck in your search.. Linda
>

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--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Barbara Chedester wrote:

From: Barbara Chedester
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villa de Jerez Zacatecas Mexico
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 9:51 AM

Wow!!  What a blessing.  I still haven't found my Salas Canales b Sombrete Zacatecas.  So I would like to see them.  love ya!  bc

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villa de Jerez Zacatecas Mexico
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:15 PM

It just occured to me that there may others researching Jerez Zacatecas who have not recorded all the records.  I copied and recorded every record in the baptismal section of files 0439851 and 0439856, the second one is not in the online records for Familysearch.. If anyone would like a copy of these films I would be happy to send an attachment then you could read them at your leisure.  Since we don't post or use every record there may be some that are of value to you.I am in the process of recording all of baptismal film # 0439849 and 0439852 Jerez baptism.Linda in Everett

     

Ruy Lopez Villalobos

Hola, a todos, para aquellos que estan mas relacionados con la historia de la ciudad de Lagos de Moreno, y Teocaltiche, que seguro conoceran quienes fueron los primeros pobladores de estos pueblos de

Larios Research Update

Hello,

I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan". for those of you who are researching, Ciudad Guzman, Sayula, Tecolotlan, and Tamazula.

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Hola Jonathan:
Terminé de revisar la información que me enviaste, te lo agradezco mucho, me fue muy útil, pues gracias a eso, completé una rama en la cual tenía algunas dudas y eso es un detalle muy valioso de tu persona, nuevamente, gracias, recibe un cordial saludo.

Blanca Isabel

Comment

Patricia, is this your Ramon Munguia?  I'm researching Munguia from Zapotlan, in my maternal line, also but earlier dates than this so don't have Ramon in my database.
Linda in Everett 
 

RAMON MUNGUIA
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MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN
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Marriage: 

28 NOV 1838  
Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico

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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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--- On Sun, 5/31/09, patty haro wrote:

From: patty haro
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Larios Research Update
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 6:35 AM

hola,
I just saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, but I couln´t
find no match with any of my lines, perhaps you have something about
Catharina Peña that married Gregorio Medina Brambila around 1787 or Felipa
Castillo daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores, Felipa married
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel around 1850 they all are from Tecolotlan.
And from Cd. Guzman Lucia González Guerra, daughter of Salvador Gonzalez
Guerra and Maria de Jesús Munguia  whom got married on 9 de noviembre de
1870, María de Jesús Munguia was daughter of Ramon Munguia and Maria
Barragan.
I hope you can help me with something because I am stock in that last lane.

I know there are Larios in my family but I am not very sure, I´ll have to
ask to my relatives that are still in Cd. Guzman
Thank you,

Patricia Haro.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:56 AM, wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan".  for
> those of you who are researching, Ciudad Guzman, Sayula, Tecolotlan, and
> Tamazula.
>
> I hope that it may help some of you.
>
> Jonathan Walker

Comment

Yes, that´s the one, thank you very much for the info, let me look up for
the marriage record o perhaps the matrimonial information and I´ll let you
know, we might be relatives, I have to do alot of reseach in that branch.

Patty

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Erlinda Castanon-Long <
longsjourney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Patricia, is this your Ramon Munguia? I'm researching Munguia from
> Zapotlan, in my maternal line, also but earlier dates than this so don't
> have Ramon in my database.
> Linda in Everett
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> RAMON MUNGUIA
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> MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN
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> 28 NOV 1838
> Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico
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> Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source
> records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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> Source Information:
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> Dates:
> Source Call No.:
> Type:
> Printout Call No.:
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> M603507
> 1825 - 1839
> 0224988
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> --- On Sun, 5/31/09, patty haro wrote:
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> From: patty haro
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Larios Research Update
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 6:35 AM
>
>
> hola,
> I just saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, but I couln´t
> find no match with any of my lines, perhaps you have something about
> Catharina Peña that married Gregorio Medina Brambila around 1787 or Felipa
> Castillo daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores, Felipa married
> Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel around 1850 they all are from Tecolotlan.
> And from Cd. Guzman Lucia González Guerra, daughter of Salvador Gonzalez
> Guerra and Maria de Jesús Munguia whom got married on 9 de noviembre de
> 1870, María de Jesús Munguia was daughter of Ramon Munguia and Maria
> Barragan.
> I hope you can help me with something because I am stock in that last lane.
>
> I know there are Larios in my family but I am not very sure, I´ll have to
> ask to my relatives that are still in Cd. Guzman
> Thank you,
>
> Patricia Haro.
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:56 AM, wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan". for
> > those of you who are researching, Ciudad Guzman, Sayula, Tecolotlan, and
> > Tamazula.
> >
> > I hope that it may help some of you.
> >
> > Jonathan Walker
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Comment

hola,
I just saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, but I couln´t
find no match with any of my lines, perhaps you have something about
Catharina Peña that married Gregorio Medina Brambila around 1787 or Felipa
Castillo daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores, Felipa married
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel around 1850 they all are from Tecolotlan.
And from Cd. Guzman Lucia González Guerra, daughter of Salvador Gonzalez
Guerra and Maria de Jesús Munguia whom got married on 9 de noviembre de
1870, María de Jesús Munguia was daughter of Ramon Munguia and Maria
Barragan.
I hope you can help me with something because I am stock in that last lane.

I know there are Larios in my family but I am not very sure, I´ll have to
ask to my relatives that are still in Cd. Guzman
Thank you,

Patricia Haro.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:56 AM, wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just updated my Jalisco lines, in my folder "Walker, Jonathan". for
> those of you who are researching, Ciudad Guzman, Sayula, Tecolotlan, and
> Tamazula.
>
> I hope that it may help some of you.
>
> Jonathan Walker

Comment

Hello Jonathan:

I saw your folder, we are researching in the same towns, I don't speak english, but I hope that you understand me:
- Mariana de la Peña del Castillo died 10 september 1775 and she married whit Antonio Santa Ana Gomez (may 24, 1713, my surnames'research es Santa Ana, I have a lot information about him.
- Manuela de la Peña del Castillo (october 6, 1737) was married whit Agustin Gusman.
Thank you, your information helped me a lot.
Blanca Isabel

In reply to by biguerreros

Comment

Blanca,

I looked at your file, and I can say that you and my wife are definitely related. Depending on your relation to Ramon Santana you are 7th cousins.

I am including a updated Ancestry chart for you. I hope that it will help you.

Jonathan

Ahnentafel Chart for Ramon Santana Villalpando

First Generation

1. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911 in Juchitla, Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

Ramon married Elpidia Delgado Cobian.

Second Generation

2. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Manuel married Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba.

3. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children.

+ 1 M i. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911.

Third Generation

4. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso was christened on 27 Apr 1840 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married Paula Sanchez.

5. Paula Sanchez.

They had the following children.

F i. Maria Ambrocia Santana Sanchez was christened on 17 Apr 1869 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

M ii. Juan Santana Sanchez was christened on 10 Feb 1871 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 2 M iii. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873.

F iv. Elena Santana Sanchez was christened on 16 Aug 1875 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

M v. Enrrique Santana Sanchez was christened on 14 Jul 1877 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

F vi. Tomasa Santana Sanchez was christened on 5 Jan 1881 in Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

6. Lorenzo Villalpando Castillo. Lorenzo married Nepomucena Garcia de Alba.

7. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba.

They had the following children.

M i. Manuel VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 29 Jan 1881 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 3 F ii. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882.

F iii. Maria Del Carmen Villalpando Garcia was christened on 16 Jul 1885 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iv. Yrene Villalpando Garcia was christened on 22 Oct 1887 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

M v. Agustin VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 16 Nov 1889 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

M vi. Pedro VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 1 Feb 1892 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

M vii. Vicente VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 11 Aug 1894 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F viii. Maria VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 11 Sep 1896 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F ix. Esther VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 2 Jan 1899 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.

Fourth Generation

8. Jose Maria Santana. Jose married Maria Fregoso.

9. Maria Fregoso.

They had the following children.

+ 4 M i. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso was christened on 27 Apr 1840.

14. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824 in Rancho Viejo, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 6 Apr 1824 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS FLORES on 2 May 1844 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

15. MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS FLORES.

They had the following children.

+ 7 F i. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba.

F ii. M. BARBARA GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 1 Dec 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iii. MARIA GERTRUDIS GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 16 Nov 1850 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iv. MARGARITA GARCIA COVARRUBIAS was christened on 22 Feb 1845 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

Fifth Generation

28. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA was born on 1 May 1785. He was christened on 1 May 1785 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA on 21 Jan 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

29. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA was born in Rancho Viejo, Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children.

F i. MA. RAFAELA YLARIA GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 28 Oct 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F ii. JUANA MARIA PETRA GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 20 Jan 1815 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iii. Josefa Garcia De Alba Preciado was born on 2 Jul 1815 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died in 1900.

F iv. ANNA MARIA DE JESUS GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 28 Jul 1822 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 14 M v. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824.

M vi. JOSE DE LA CONCEPCION GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 11 Dec 1828 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M vii. JOSE RAFAEL GUADALUPE GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was christened on 22 Oct 1832 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M viii. Jose Maria GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO.

Sixth Generation

56. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS was born in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 3 Mar 1755 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO on 26 Dec 1783.

57. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO.

They had the following children.

+ 28 M i. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA was born on 1 May 1785.

F ii. MARIA GUADALUPE GARZIA STAANNA. was christened on 22 Jun 1787 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iii. MARIA PETRONA TRINIDAD GARCIA STAANA. was christened on 25 Oct 1789 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iv. MARIA PAULA FRANCISCA GARCIA DE ALVA SANTANA was christened on 24 Jun 1792 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M v. JOSE ROSALIO SOTERO GARCIA was christened on 23 Apr 1796 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F vi. MARIA JOSEFA GARCIA SANTANA was christened on 11 Jun 1799 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F vii. MA. MARCELINA GARCIA RAMIREZ was christened on 2 May 1802 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

58. ALEJANDRO PRECIADO was born in 1749 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico. ALEJANDRO married PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA in 1769 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico.

59. PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA was born in 1750 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children.

+ 29 F i. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA.

M ii. JPH. MARIA VIZENTE PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 1 Nov 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iii. MARIA JOSEFA VITALA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 7 May 1783 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iv. JOSE GUADALUPE PIOQTO. PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 14 May 1795 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F v. MA. VICENTA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 25 Apr 1788 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M vi. JOSE MARIA VISENTE PRESEADO.

F vii. MARIA VISENTA JUANA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 18 Jun 1793 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

Seventh Generation

112. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 17 May 1721 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA on 3 Oct 1750 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico.

113. MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA.

They had the following children.

+ 56 M i. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS was christened on 3 Mar 1755.

M ii. JPH. RAFAEL NARCISO GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 11 Nov 1767 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico.

114. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29 Apr 1731 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. ANTONIO married MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS on 3 May 1758 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

115. MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS was christened on 21 Jul 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children.

F i. VICTORIA MARIA SANTANA RAMIRES was christened on 29 Dec 1762 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M ii. JPH. RAMON STAANA. RAMIRES was christened on 15 Aug 1773 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iii. JPH. PANTALEON SANTANA RAMIRES was christened on 31 Jul 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iv. Jose Victor Santana was born in 1775 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 57 F v. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO.

M vi. PEDROI JOSE SANTA ANA.

F vii. JUANA MARIA PRUDENCIA DE STAANA..

M viii. GREGORIO SANTANA.

F ix. MA. BICTORIA SANTANA.

F x. MA. ANTA. SANTANA.

M xi. BERNARDINO SANTA ANA.

M xii. PABLO SANTANA.

Eighth Generation

224. HERNÁNDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 25 Apr 1671 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. HERNÁNDO married CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y VELASCO on 4 Oct 1695 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

225. CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y VELASCO.

They had the following children.

M i. MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 16 Jan 1702 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F ii. CLARA GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 12 Oct 1712 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iii. JUAN MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 23 Apr 1714 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iv. PHELIPE SANTIAGO GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 3 May 1719 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 112 M v. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 17 May 1721.

M vi. ESTEBAN YCASIO GARZIA GUSMAN was christened on 21 Sep 1721 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F vii. MARIA RITA GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 2 Feb 1725 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M viii. Nicolas GARCIA DE ALVA.

F ix. EFIGEA. GARZIA DE ALBA.

M x. ANTONIO GARCIA DE ALVA.

228. Antonio SANTA ANA. Antonio married MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA on 11 Feb 1730 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

229. MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA.

They had the following children.

+ 114 M i. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29 Apr 1731.

M ii. JOSEPH ECHITERIO SANTA PENA was christened on 14 Jun 1733 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iii. MARIA RITA SANTA PENA was christened on 27 May 1736 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F iv. CASILDA SANTA PENA was christened on 20 Apr 1738 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F v. YNES SANTA PENA was christened on 7 Apr 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F vi. AGUSTINA SANTA PENA was christened on 6 Sep 1744 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M vii. JOSEPH DOMINGO SANTA PENA was christened on 15 Aug 1750 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

F viii. MARIA PETRONA SANTANA PENA was christened on 4 Jun 1752 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

230. ASSENCIO RAMIRES DE PRADO. ASSENCIO married MARIA DE LOS SANTOS on 17 Feb 1738 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

231. MARIA DE LOS SANTOS.

They had the following children.

F i. Francisca RAMIRES SANTOS was christened on 15 Mar 1740 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

+ 115 F ii. MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS was christened on 21 Jul 1742.

F iii. Juana Dorotea RAMIRES SANTOS was christened on 3 Apr 1745 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iv. JUAN CIPRIAN RAMIREZ SANTOS was christened on 12 May 1751 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

Ninth Generation

448. Francisco GARCÍA DE ALBA. Francisco married CASILDA DE ORTEGA Y MALDONADO.

449. CASILDA DE ORTEGA Y MALDONADO.

They had the following children.

+ 224 M i. HERNÁNDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 25 Apr 1671.

M ii. JOSEPH GARZIA HORTEGA was christened on 26 Dec 1676 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

M iii. Luiz Garcia De Alva was born about 1682 in Of, Autlan De Navarro, Jalisco, Mexico. He died before 1792 in , , Mexico.

F iv. ROSA GARSIA MALDONADO.

M v. FELIPE GARCIA DE ALVA.

M vi. MANUEL GARCIA DE

Comment

hola,
I think we are also related, I couldn´t find my ancesters in your record but
I think I might be in two or tree branches from tecolotlan Jalisco.

I have not as much info as you have but here it is:

Juan Nepomuceno de Jesus Medina Castillo born in 1841 son of
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel and Felipa Castillo
FELIPA CASTILLO daughter of Ramon Castillo and Feliciana Flores
Ramon del Refugio Medina Michel son of Abundio Medina Peña and Maria Josefa
Michel married 1806 in Ejutla
Maria Josefa Michel daughter of Juan Michel and Mariana Santana
Abundio Medina Peña son of Jose Gregorio Medina de la Brambila and
Catharina Peña
Jose Gregorio de Medina de la Brambila born 1759 tecolotlan Jalisco son of
Miguel Medina and Theresa Brambila married in 1753
Miguel Medina son of Juan Joseph Medina and Francisco Delgado married in
1721 in Sayula

As you can see my reseach is mainly centered in the Medina Family, but I am
also interested in the other branches.

I have copy of the "dispensa matrimonial" of Abundio Medina Peña and Josepha
Michel, if you would be interested in seen it I can post it later.

Thank you for your help.
Patricia Haro

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:26 AM, wrote:

> Blanca,
> I looked at your file, and I can say that you and my wife are definitely
> related. Depending on your relation to Ramon Santana you are 7th cousins.
>
>
>
> I am including a updated Ancestry chart for you. I hope that it will help
> you.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> Ahnentafel Chart for Ramon Santana Villalpando
>
> First Generation
>
> 1. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911 in Juchitla,
> Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> Ramon married Elpidia Delgado Cobian.
>
> Second Generation
>
> 2. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873 in Sagrado
> Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Manuel married Maria
> Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba.
>
> 3. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec
> 1882 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 1 M i. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on
> 11 Aug 1911.
>
> Third Generation
>
> 4. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso was christened on 27 Apr
> 1840 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married
> Paula Sanchez.
>
> 5. Paula Sanchez.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> F i. Maria Ambrocia Santana Sanchez was
> christened on 17 Apr 1869 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M ii. Juan Santana Sanchez was christened on
> 10 Feb 1871 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> + 2 M iii. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened
> on 15 Jan 1873.
>
> F iv. Elena Santana Sanchez was christened
> on 16 Aug 1875 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M v. Enrrique Santana Sanchez was christened
> on 14 Jul 1877 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F vi. Tomasa Santana Sanchez was christened
> on 5 Jan 1881 in Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 6. Lorenzo Villalpando Castillo. Lorenzo married Nepomucena Garcia de
> Alba.
>
> 7. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> M i. Manuel VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 29 Jan 1881 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> + 3 F ii. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade
> Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882.
>
> F iii. Maria Del Carmen Villalpando Garcia
> was christened on 16 Jul 1885 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iv. Yrene Villalpando Garcia was
> christened on 22 Oct 1887 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M v. Agustin VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 16 Nov 1889 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M vi. Pedro VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 1 Feb 1892 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M vii. Vicente VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 11 Aug 1894 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F viii. Maria VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 11 Sep 1896 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F ix. Esther VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was
> christened on 2 Jan 1899 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> Fourth Generation
>
> 8. Jose Maria Santana. Jose married Maria Fregoso.
>
> 9. Maria Fregoso.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 4 M i. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso
> was christened on 27 Apr 1840.
>
> 14. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824
> in Rancho Viejo, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 6 Apr 1824 in Corazon
> De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS
> FLORES on 2 May 1844 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 15. MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS FLORES.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 7 F i. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba.
>
> F ii. M. BARBARA GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was
> christened on 1 Dec 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iii. MARIA GERTRUDIS GARCIA COBARRUBIAS
> was christened on 16 Nov 1850 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> F iv. MARGARITA GARCIA COVARRUBIAS was
> christened on 22 Feb 1845 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> Fifth Generation
>
> 28. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA was born on 1 May
> 1785. He was christened on 1 May 1785 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan,
> Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA on
> 21 Jan 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 29. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA was born in Rancho Viejo,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> F i. MA. RAFAELA YLARIA GARCIA PRECIADO
> was christened on 28 Oct 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> F ii. JUANA MARIA PETRA GARCIA PRECIADO was
> christened on 20 Jan 1815 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iii. Josefa Garcia De Alba Preciado was
> born on 2 Jul 1815 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died in 1900.
>
> F iv. ANNA MARIA DE JESUS GARCIA PRECIADO
> was christened on 28 Jul 1822 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> + 14 M v. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA
> PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824.
>
> M vi. JOSE DE LA CONCEPCION GARCIA PRECIADO
> was christened on 11 Dec 1828 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M vii. JOSE RAFAEL GUADALUPE GARCÍA DE ALBA
> PRECIADO was christened on 22 Oct 1832 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M viii. Jose Maria GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO.
>
> Sixth Generation
>
> 56. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS was born in San
> Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 3 Mar 1755 in San
> Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA
> RAMÍREZ DE PRADO on 26 Dec 1783.
>
> 57. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 28 M i. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE
> SANTA ANA was born on 1 May 1785.
>
> F ii. MARIA GUADALUPE GARZIA STAANNA. was
> christened on 22 Jun 1787 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iii. MARIA PETRONA TRINIDAD GARCIA STAANA.
> was christened on 25 Oct 1789 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> F iv. MARIA PAULA FRANCISCA GARCIA DE ALVA
> SANTANA was christened on 24 Jun 1792 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan,
> Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M v. JOSE ROSALIO SOTERO GARCIA was
> christened on 23 Apr 1796 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F vi. MARIA JOSEFA GARCIA SANTANA was
> christened on 11 Jun 1799 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F vii. MA. MARCELINA GARCIA RAMIREZ was
> christened on 2 May 1802 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 58. ALEJANDRO PRECIADO was born in 1749 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico.
> ALEJANDRO married PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA in 1769 in Otates, , Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> 59. PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA was born in 1750 in Otates, , Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 29 F i. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE
> ALBA.
>
> M ii. JPH. MARIA VIZENTE PRECIADO GARCIA was
> christened on 1 Nov 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iii. MARIA JOSEFA VITALA PRECIADO GARCIA
> was christened on 7 May 1783 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> M iv. JOSE GUADALUPE PIOQTO. PRECIADO GARCIA
> was christened on 14 May 1795 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> F v. MA. VICENTA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCIA was
> christened on 25 Apr 1788 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M vi. JOSE MARIA VISENTE PRESEADO.
>
> F vii. MARIA VISENTA JUANA PRECIADO GARCIA
> was christened on 18 Jun 1793 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
>
> Seventh Generation
>
> 112. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 17 May 1721 in Corazon De
> Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE
> COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA on 3 Oct 1750 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 113. MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 56 M i. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE
> COVARRUBIAS was christened on 3 Mar 1755.
>
> M ii. JPH. RAFAEL NARCISO GARCIA COBARRUBIAS
> was christened on 11 Nov 1767 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 114. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29 Apr 1731 in Corazon De
> Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. ANTONIO married MARIANA Francisca
> RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS on 3 May 1758 in Corazon De Jesus,
> Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 115. MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS was christened on 21
> Jul 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> F i. VICTORIA MARIA SANTANA RAMIRES was
> christened on 29 Dec 1762 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M ii. JPH. RAMON STAANA. RAMIRES was
> christened on 15 Aug 1773 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M iii. JPH. PANTALEON SANTANA RAMIRES was
> christened on 31 Jul 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M iv. Jose Victor Santana was born in 1775 in
> Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> + 57 F v. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE
> PRADO.
>
> M vi. PEDROI JOSE SANTA ANA.
>
> F vii. JUANA MARIA PRUDENCIA DE STAANA..
>
> M viii. GREGORIO SANTANA.
>
> F ix. MA. BICTORIA SANTANA.
>
> F x. MA. ANTA. SANTANA.
>
> M xi. BERNARDINO SANTA ANA.
>
> M xii. PABLO SANTANA.
>
> Eighth Generation
>
> 224. HERNÁNDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 25 Apr 1671 in Corazon De
> Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. HERNÁNDO married CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y
> VELASCO on 4 Oct 1695 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 225. CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y VELASCO.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> M i. MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on
> 16 Jan 1702 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F ii. CLARA GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on
> 12 Oct 1712 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M iii. JUAN MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was
> christened on 23 Apr 1714 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M iv. PHELIPE SANTIAGO GARCIA GUSMAN was
> christened on 3 May 1719 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> + 112 M v. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened
> on 17 May 1721.
>
> M vi. ESTEBAN YCASIO GARZIA GUSMAN was
> christened on 21 Sep 1721 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F vii. MARIA RITA GARCIA GUSMAN was
> christened on 2 Feb 1725 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M viii. Nicolas GARCIA DE ALVA.
>
> F ix. EFIGEA. GARZIA DE ALBA.
>
> M x. ANTONIO GARCIA DE ALVA.
>
> 228. Antonio SANTA ANA. Antonio married MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA on
> 11 Feb 1730 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> 229. MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA.
>
> They had the following children.
>
> + 114 M i. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29
> Apr 1731.
>
> M ii. JOSEPH ECHITERIO SANTA PENA was
> christened on 14 Jun 1733 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iii. MARIA RITA SANTA PENA was christened
> on 27 May 1736 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F iv. CASILDA SANTA PENA was christened on
> 20 Apr 1738 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F v. YNES SANTA PENA was christened on 7
> Apr 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> F vi. AGUSTINA SANTA PENA was christened on
> 6 Sep 1744 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> M vii. JOSEPH DOMINGO SANTA PENA was christened
> on 15 Aug 1750 in Corazon De Jesus

Comment

Dear Jonathan and Blanca,

I think that we may be able to link up some of our work.  Please check your records to see if you find any leads to Magdaleno, Maclovio, or Nicolas Santana. 

My Mother, Francisca Santan Gonzalez, says that Ramon Santana Villalpando was a first cousin of her father Magdaleno Santana Guijarro.

Have you found the connection to the famous singer, Carlos Santana from Autlan, Jalisco?  Before passing my grandfather Magdaleno Santana told me that he was related to him.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Raymond Gonzalez Santana

Magdaleno Santana                                      =                                  Maria Gonzalez

11/22/1896 – 01/19/1986                    11/27/1916                            07/09/1899-08/13/1958

La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco                                    La Candelaria, Juchitlan, Jalisco                    

Children

Maria Guada
lupe Santana       12/01/1918

Florencio Santana                   02/23/1924

Jose Santana                            01/31/1925

Maria de Jesus Santana           01/01/1926

Francisca Santana                03/09/1927

Maria Encarnacion Santana    03/25/1929

Maria Refugio Santana           04/27/1931

Maria Engracia Santana          04/03/1933

Maria Carmen Santana            01/16/1935

Juan Manuel Santana              07/12/1938                 

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Maclovio Santana                                          =                                  Canuta Guijarro

11/22/1868                           0                                                              01/18/1874

Los Corrales, Juchitlan, Jalisco                                                           Juchitlan, Jalisco

 

Children

Magdaleno Santana              07/22/1896

Maria Santana                         06/21/1898

Pitoria Santana                                  1908

Jose Santana   

Francisco Santana                             1903

Isabel Santan                           07/08/1894

Josefa Santana           

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Nicolas Santana     =C
2                                       =                                  Bartola Ramos

 

Children

Maclovio Santana                  11/28/1868

Alta Gracia Santana                10/24/1874

Ramon Santana                       10/13/1883     

Genoveva Santana                  01/02/1882

Adolfo Santana                       10/02/1870

Pedro Santana

Mauricia Santana                    09/22/1872

Rosa Santana                          08/31/1876

Rafael Santana                        10/24/1863

Engracia Santana

Rafaela Santana                      10/16/1866

-----Original Message-----
From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.
com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 1:26 am
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santana Relation

Blanca,  
I looked at your file, and I can say that you and my wife are definitely related. Depending on your relation to Ramon Santana you are 7th cousins. 
 
 
I am including a updated Ancestry chart for you. I hope that it will help you. 
 
 
Jonathan 
 
 
Ahnentafel Chart for Ramon Santana Villalpando 
 
First Generation 
 
1. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911 in Juchitla, Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
Ramon married Elpidia Delgado Cobian. 
 
Second Generation 
 
2. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Manuel married Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba. 
 
3. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 1 M i. Ramon Santana Villalpando was born on 11 Aug 1911. 
 
Third Generation 
 
4. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso was christened on 27 Apr 1840 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married Paula Sanchez. 
 
5. Paula Sanchez. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  F i. Maria Ambrocia Santana Sanchez was christened on 17 Apr 1869=2
0in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M ii. Juan Santana Sanchez was christened on 10 Feb 1871 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 2 M iii. Manuel Santana Sanchez was christened on 15 Jan 1873. 
 
  F iv. Elena Santana Sanchez was christened on 16 Aug 1875 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M v. Enrrique Santana Sanchez was christened on 14 Jul 1877 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Tenamaxtlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F vi. Tomasa Santana Sanchez was christened on 5 Jan 1881 in Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
6. Lorenzo Villalpando Castillo. Lorenzo married Nepomucena Garcia de Alba. 
 
7. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  M i. Manuel VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 29 Jan 1881 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 3 F ii. Maria Guadalupe Villalpando Garciade Alba was christened on 17 Dec 1882. 
 
  F iii. Maria Del Carmen Villalpando Garcia was christened on 16 Jul 1885 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iv. Yrene Villalpando Garcia was christened on 22 Oct 1887 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M v. Agustin VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 16 Nov 1889 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco,20Mexico. 
 
  M vi. Pedro VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 1 Feb 1892 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M vii. Vicente VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 11 Aug 1894 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F viii. Maria VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 11 Sep 1896 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F ix. Esther VILLALPANDO GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 2 Jan 1899 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
Fourth Generation 
 
8. Jose Maria Santana. Jose married Maria Fregoso. 
 
9. Maria Fregoso. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 4 M i. Jose Anastacio De Jesus Santana Fregoso was christened on 27 Apr 1840. 
 
14. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824 in Rancho Viejo, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 6 Apr 1824 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS FLORES on 2 May 1844 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
15. MARÍA RAMONA COVARRUBIAS FLORES. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 7 F i. Nepomucena Garcia de Alba. 
 
  F ii. M. BARBARA GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 1 Dec 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iii. MARIA GERTRUDIS GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 16 Nov 1850 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan,
Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iv. MARGARITA GARCIA COVARRUBIAS was christened on 22 Feb 1845 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
Fifth Generation 
 
28. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA was born on 1 May 1785. He was christened on 1 May 1785 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA on 21 Jan 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
29. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA was born in Rancho Viejo, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  F i. MA. RAFAELA YLARIA GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 28 Oct 1811 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F ii. JUANA MARIA PETRA GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 20 Jan 1815 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iii. Josefa Garcia De Alba Preciado was born on 2 Jul 1815 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died in 1900. 
 
  F iv. ANNA MARIA DE JESUS GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 28 Jul 1822 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 14 M v. JOSE VICENTE DE JESÚS GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was born on 2 Apr 1824. 
 
  M vi. JOSE DE LA CONCEPCION GARCIA PRECIADO was christened on 11 Dec 1828 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M vii. JOSE RAFAEL GUADALUPE GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO was christened on 22 Oct 1832 in
Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M viii. Jose Maria GARCÍA DE ALBA PRECIADO. 
 
Sixth Generation 
 
56. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS was born in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 3 Mar 1755 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO on 26 Dec 1783. 
 
57. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 28 M i. JOSE RAFAEL ANASTACIO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA was born on 1 May 1785. 
 
  F ii. MARIA GUADALUPE GARZIA STAANNA. was christened on 22 Jun 1787 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iii. MARIA PETRONA TRINIDAD GARCIA STAANA. was christened on 25 Oct 1789 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iv. MARIA PAULA FRANCISCA GARCIA DE ALVA SANTANA was christened on 24 Jun 1792 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M v. JOSE ROSALIO SOTERO GARCIA was christened on 23 Apr 1796 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F vi. MARIA JOSEFA GARCIA SANTANA was christened on 11 Jun 1799 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F vii. MA. MARCELINA GARCIA RAMIREZ was christened on 2 May 1802 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
58. ALEJANDRO PRECIADO was born in 1749 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico. ALEJ
ANDRO married PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA in 1769 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
59. PETRONILA GARCÍA DEL ALVA was born in 1750 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 29 F i. JUANA MARIA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALBA. 
 
  M ii. JPH. MARIA VIZENTE PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 1 Nov 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iii. MARIA JOSEFA VITALA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 7 May 1783 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M iv. JOSE GUADALUPE PIOQTO. PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 14 May 1795 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F v. MA. VICENTA JOSEFA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 25 Apr 1788 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M vi. JOSE MARIA VISENTE PRESEADO. 
 
  F vii. MARIA VISENTA JUANA PRECIADO GARCIA was christened on 18 Jun 1793 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
Seventh Generation 
 
112. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 17 May 1721 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA on 3 Oct 1750 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
113. MARIA MANUELA BEATRÍZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
+ 56 M i. Jose Manuel FAUSTINO GARCÍA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS was christened on 3 Mar 1755.=C
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  M ii. JPH. RAFAEL NARCISO GARCIA COBARRUBIAS was christened on 11 Nov 1767 in San Miguel, Ejutla, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
114. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29 Apr 1731 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. ANTONIO married MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS on 3 May 1758 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
115. MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS was christened on 21 Jul 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  F i. VICTORIA MARIA SANTANA RAMIRES was christened on 29 Dec 1762 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M ii. JPH. RAMON STAANA. RAMIRES was christened on 15 Aug 1773 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M iii. JPH. PANTALEON SANTANA RAMIRES was christened on 31 Jul 1774 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M iv. Jose Victor Santana was born in 1775 in Otates, , Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 57 F v. MARÍA Sebastiana SANTA ANA RAMÍREZ DE PRADO. 
 
  M vi. PEDROI JOSE SANTA ANA. 
 
  F vii. JUANA MARIA PRUDENCIA DE STAANA.. 
 
  M viii. GREGORIO SANTANA. 
 
  F ix. MA. BICTORIA SANTANA. 
 
  F x. MA. ANTA. SANTANA. 
 
  M xi. BERNARDINO SANTA ANA. 
 
  M xii. PABLO SANTANA. 
 
Eighth Generation 
 
224. HERNÁNDO GARC8
DA DE ALBA was christened on 25 Apr 1671 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. HERNÁNDO married CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y VELASCO on 4 Oct 1695 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
225. CLARA DE GUSMÁN Y VELASCO. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  M i. MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 16 Jan 1702 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F ii. CLARA GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 12 Oct 1712 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M iii. JUAN MANUEL GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 23 Apr 1714 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M iv. PHELIPE SANTIAGO GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 3 May 1719 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 112 M v. JOSE MARÍA GARCÍA DE ALBA was christened on 17 May 1721. 
 
  M vi. ESTEBAN YCASIO GARZIA GUSMAN was christened on 21 Sep 1721 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F vii. MARIA RITA GARCIA GUSMAN was christened on 2 Feb 1725 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M viii. Nicolas GARCIA DE ALVA. 
 
  F ix. EFIGEA. GARZIA DE ALBA. 
 
  M x. ANTONIO GARCIA DE ALVA. 
 
228. Antonio SANTA ANA. Antonio married MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA on 11 Feb 1730 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
229. MARIA ANA FRANCISCA DE LA PENA. 
 
They had t
he following children. 
 
+ 114 M i. ANTONIO SANTANA PENA was christened on 29 Apr 1731. 
 
  M ii. JOSEPH ECHITERIO SANTA PENA was christened on 14 Jun 1733 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iii. MARIA RITA SANTA PENA was christened on 27 May 1736 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F iv. CASILDA SANTA PENA was christened on 20 Apr 1738 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F v. YNES SANTA PENA was christened on 7 Apr 1742 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F vi. AGUSTINA SANTA PENA was christened on 6 Sep 1744 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  M vii. JOSEPH DOMINGO SANTA PENA was christened on 15 Aug 1750 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
  F viii. MARIA PETRONA SANTANA PENA was christened on 4 Jun 1752 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
230. ASSENCIO RAMIRES DE PRADO. ASSENCIO married MARIA DE LOS SANTOS on 17 Feb 1738 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
231. MARIA DE LOS SANTOS. 
 
They had the following children. 
 
  F i. Francisca RAMIRES SANTOS was christened on 15 Mar 1740 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
 
+ 115 F ii. MARIANA Francisca RAMÍREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS was christened on 21 Jul 1742. 
 
  F iii. Juana Dorotea RAMIRES SANTOS was christened on 3 Apr

Comment

Raymond,

this is what I could find, for you:

Ahnentafel Chart for Raymond Gonzalez Santana

Third Generation
4. Isaac Gonzalez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Isaac married Raquel Gomez Gutierrez.
5. Raquel Gomez Gutierrez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
+ 2 M i. Gonzalez.
6. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 23 Jul 1896 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 19 Jan 1986. Magdaleno married Maria Gonzalez on 27 Nov 1916.
7. Maria Gonzalez was born on 9 Jul 1899 in La Candelaria, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 13 Aug 1958.
They had the following children.
F i. Maria Guadalupe Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Dec 1918.
M ii. Florencio Santana Gonzalez was born on 23 Dec 1924.
M iii. Jose Santana Gonzalez was born on 31 Jan 1925.
F iv. Maria de Jesus Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Jan 1926.
+ 3 F v. Francisca Santana Gonzalez was born on 9 Mar 1927.
F vi. Maria Encarnacion Santana Gonzalez was born on 25 Mar 1929.
F vii. Maria Refugio Santana Gonzalez was born on 27 Apr 1931.
F viii. Maria Engracia Santana Gonzalez was born on 3 Apr 1933.
F ix. Maria Carmen Santana Gonzalez was born on 16 Jan 1935.
M x. Juan Manuel Santana Gonzalez was born on 12 Jul 1938.
Fourth Generation
12. Maclovio Santana was born on 22 Nov 1868 in Los Corrales, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 1 Dec 1878 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Maclovio married Canuta Guijarro Ramos.
13. Canuta Guijarro Ramos was born on 18 Jan 1874 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 24 Jan 1874 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
F i. Jose Isabel Santana was born on 8 Jun 1894 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 11 Jul 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 6 M ii. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896. He died on 19 Jan 1986.
F iii. Maria Santana was born on 21 Jun 1898.
M iv. Francisco Santana was born in 1903.
F v. Pitoria Santana was born in 1908.
M vi. Jose Santana.
F vii. Josefa Santana.
F viii. Maria Josefa Santana was christened on 30 Nov 1891 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F ix. Jesus Santana was born on 21 Jun 1898 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
Fifth Generation
24. NICOLAS SANTANA LOPEZ. NICOLAS married BARTOLA RAMOS RUELAS.
25. BARTOLA RAMOS RUELAS.
They had the following children.
M i. Rafael Santana was born on 24 Oct 1863 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F ii. Rafaela Santana was born on 16 Oct 1866 in Corrales, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 12 M iii. Maclovio Santana was born on 22 Nov 1868.
M iv. ADOLFO SANTANA RAMOS was born on 2 Oct 1870. He was christened on 2 Oct 1870 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F v. MAURICIA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 22 Sep 1872. She was christened on 22 Sep 1872 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F vi. ALTA GRACIA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 24 Oct 1874. She was christened on 24 Oct 1874 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F vii. ROSA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 31 Aug 1876. She was christened on 31 Aug 1876 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F viii. MARIA DE LOS REYES SANTANA RAMOS was christened on 6 Jan 1879 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F ix. Genoveva Santana was born on 4 Jan 1882 in Corrales, , Jalisco, Mexico.
M x. Ramon Santana was born on 13 Oct 1883.
M xi. Pedro Santana.
F xii. Engracia Santana.
26. Jose Eulalio Guijarro was christened on 12 Feb 1846 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married Doroteo Cevilla.
27. Doroteo Cevilla.
They had the following children.
+ 13 F i. Canuta Guijarro Ramos was born on 18 Jan 1874.
F ii. Pascuala Guijarro was christened on 21 May 1879 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iii. Jesus Guijarro was christened on 18 Jan 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iv. Ramona Guijarro was christened on 7 Sep 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F v. Jacinta Guijarro was christened on 14 Sep 1879 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F vi. Cecilia Guijarro was christened on 24 Nov 1876 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F vii. M'a Clara Guijarro was christened on 18 Aug 1890 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico.
Sixth Generation
53. Maria Gabina Guijarro.
She had the following children.
+ 26 M i. Jose Eulalio Guijarro was christened on 12 Feb 1846.

Jonathan

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Jonathan,

Are you able help me with Isaac Gonzalez and Raquel Gomez Gutierrez.  I know that Raquel was adopted and Gomez Gutierrez are her adoptive surnames. How deep are you able to go with this information and the resources you have at your finger tips?

Ray Gonzalez

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Raymond, 
 
this is what I could find, for you: 
 
Ahnentafel Chart for Raymond Gonzalez Santana 
 
Third Generation 
4. Isaac Gonzalez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Isaac married Raquel Gomez Gutierrez. 
5. Raquel Gomez Gutierrez was born in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
They had the following children. 
+ 2 M i. Gonzalez. 
6. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 23 Jul 1896 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 19 Jan 1986. Magdaleno married Maria Gonzalez on 27 Nov 1916. 
7. Maria Gonzalez was born on 9 Jul 1899 in La Candelaria, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 13 Aug 1958. 
They had the following children. 
  F i. Maria Guadalupe Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Dec 1918. 
  M ii. Florencio Santana Gonzalez was born on 23 Dec 1924. 
  M iii. Jose Santana Gonzalez was born on 31 Jan 1925. 
  F iv. Maria de Jesus Santana Gonzalez was born on 1 Jan201926. 
+ 3 F v. Francisca Santana Gonzalez was born on 9 Mar 1927. 
  F vi. Maria Encarnacion Santana Gonzalez was born on 25 Mar 1929. 
  F vii. Maria Refugio Santana Gonzalez was born on 27 Apr 1931. 
  F viii. Maria Engracia Santana Gonzalez was born on 3 Apr 1933. 
  F ix. Maria Carmen Santana Gonzalez was born on 16 Jan 1935. 
  M x. Juan Manuel Santana Gonzalez was born on 12 Jul 1938. 
Fourth Generation 
12. Maclovio Santana was born on 22 Nov 1868 in Los Corrales, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 1 Dec 1878 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Maclovio married Canuta Guijarro Ramos. 
13. Canuta Guijarro Ramos was born on 18 Jan 1874 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 24 Jan 1874 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
They had the following children. 
  F i. Jose Isabel Santana was born on 8 Jun 1894 in La Cofradia, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 11 Jul 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
+ 6 M ii. Magdaleno Santana was born on 2 Jun 1896. He died on 19 Jan 1986. 
  F iii. Maria Santana was born on 21 Jun 1898. 
  M iv. Francisco Santana was born in 1903. 
  F v. Pitoria Santana was born in 1908. 
  M vi. Jose Santana. 
  F vii. Josefa Santana. 
  F viii. Maria Josefa Santana was christened on 30 Nov 18
91 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F ix. Jesus Santana was born on 21 Jun 1898 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
Fifth Generation 
24. NICOLAS SANTANA LOPEZ. NICOLAS married BARTOLA RAMOS RUELAS. 
25. BARTOLA RAMOS RUELAS. 
They had the following children. 
  M i. Rafael Santana was born on 24 Oct 1863 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F ii. Rafaela Santana was born on 16 Oct 1866 in Corrales, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
+ 12 M iii. Maclovio Santana was born on 22 Nov 1868. 
  M iv. ADOLFO SANTANA RAMOS was born on 2 Oct 1870. He was christened on 2 Oct 1870 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F v. MAURICIA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 22 Sep 1872. She was christened on 22 Sep 1872 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F vi. ALTA GRACIA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 24 Oct 1874. She was christened on 24 Oct 1874 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F vii. ROSA SANTANA RAMOS was born on 31 Aug 1876. She was christened on 31 Aug 1876 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F viii. MARIA DE LOS REYES SANTANA RAMOS was christened on 6 Jan 1879 in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F ix. Genoveva Santana was born on 4 Jan 1882 in Corrales, , Jalisco, Mexico. 
  M x. Ramon Santana was born on 13 Oct 1883. 
  M xi. Pedro Santana. 
  F xii. Engracia Santana. 
26. Jose Eulalio Guijarro was christened on 12 Feb 1846 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, JuchitlA
1n, Jalisco, Mexico. Jose married Doroteo Cevilla. 
27. Doroteo Cevilla. 
They had the following children. 
+ 13 F i. Canuta Guijarro Ramos was born on 18 Jan 1874. 
  F ii. Pascuala Guijarro was christened on 21 May 1879 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  M iii. Jesus Guijarro was christened on 18 Jan 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F iv. Ramona Guijarro was christened on 7 Sep 1894 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F v. Jacinta Guijarro was christened on 14 Sep 1879 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F vi. Cecilia Guijarro was christened on 24 Nov 1876 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
  F vii. M'a Clara Guijarro was christened on 18 Aug 1890 in Sagrado Corazón de Jesús, Juchitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. 
Sixth Generation 
53. Maria Gabina Guijarro. 
She had the following children. 
+ 26 M i. Jose Eulalio Guijarro was christened on 12 Feb 1846. 
 
Jonathan 
 

Comment

Jonathan:

hola, Ramón Santana Villalpando was my grandfather.

Revisé la información que me enviaste, coincido en muchos datos, a continuación te menciono algunos que no se encuentran en el archivo que enviaste:

-JOSE ROSALIO SOTERO GARCÍA married ISIDRA PRECIADO DE SANTA ANA (Parents: José María Preciado y Maria de las Nieves Santa Ana)

- MARIA JOSEFA GARCIA SANTANA married JOSE MARIA ROSENTO DE SANTA ANA ARAIZA (parents: Juan María de Santa Ana and Josefa Araiza)

- MA. MARCELINA GARCIA RAMIREZ married with MANUEL MAGAÑA GARCÍA 8oarentes: Miguel Magaña y Leonor García)

- I have other brother, that you dont': JOSE GUADALUPE MACEDONIO GARCIA DE ALBA DE SANTA ANA (1795)

- PETRONILA GARCÍA DE ALVA and ALEJANDRO PRECIADO had:

- JOSE MARIA VISENTE PRESEADO (01-NOV-1774)

- JOSE CLEMENTE PRECIADO GARCÍA DE ALVA, married with MARIA GUADALUPE LUNA SANTA ANA (parents: Rafael de Luna Villegas y María Santa Ana Mora, Grandparents: Tomas Santa Ana Gomez and Josefa Micaea Mora, Tomas' parents: Feliciana Gomez García de Contreras and Antonio de Santa Ana Lopez y Buezo).

- MARIA MANUELA BEATRIZ DE COVARRUBIAS DE ALBA had also:

- JOSEPH GREGORIO GARCIA DE ALBA DE COVARRUBIAS, married with ANTONIA JOSEFA DEL CASTILLO, they had a child: José Manuel García de Alba del Castillo (10/junio/1784)

- ANTONIO SANTANA PEÑA and MARIANA FRANCISCA RAMIREZ DE PRADO DE LOS SANTOS, had also:

- ANSELMO MARIA SANTA ANA RAMIREZ (1767) married with RITA GARCIA.

- MARIA MARTINA SANTA ANA RAMIREZ ( 1777)

- MIGUEL MARIA SANTA ANA RAMIREZ (1770) married MARIA R. COBIAN (1775)

- VICTORIA MARIA SANTANA RAMIRES married with JUAN ANTONIO VASQUEZ GARCIA DE ALBA (19 junio 1780)

- JOSE VICTOR SANTANA MARRIED with MARIA JOSEFA COBIAN PRECIADO

- PEDROI JOSE SANTA ANA (1768) married with MARIA ANTONIA LUISA GARCIA DE ALBA

- JUANA MARIA PRUDENCIA DE STAANA married with JOSE MANUEL PELAYO

- JOSE GREGORIO DE JESUS SANTANA married with MARIA LOPEZ and TRANQUILINA COBIAN, they had several childrens.

- MARIA ANTONIA FLORENCIA SANTANA (1769) married MAXIMO RAFAEL GONZALES, 16-JUNIO-1768, his parents were: JUAN JOSEPH GONZALE< and MARIA BRIGIDA ARAYZA.

- BERNARDINO SANTA ANA (1779), married with MARIA YGNACIA COBIAN and they had to MARIA RAMONA DE JESUS SANTA ANA COBIAN ( 15-junio-1817).

Todavía no termino de revisar la información que me hiciste favor de enviar, en breve estaré escribiendote con mis comentarios, cuál es la rama de tu esposa?

Te agradezco tus atenciones.

Saludos.

Blanca Isabel.

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Blanca,

By any chance do you have any Ibarra y Santa Ana? I have a marriage in
Sayula, Jalisco in 1711 between Antonio de Ibarra y Santa Ana and Gertrudis
de Aguilar y Mungia. Does this sound familiar to you?

-Angelina-

Comment

Blanca,

Disculpame, no me fije que el mensaje estaba en espanol. Vi el apellido
Santa Ana y me enthusiame. Por casualidad no tienes Ibarra y Santa Ana en tu
arbol?

En Sayula, Jalisco en el ano 1711 tengo el matrimonio de Antonio de Ibarra y
Santa Ana con Gertrudis de Aguilar y Mungia.

Conoces algo sobre esta pareja?

-Angelina-

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Hola Angelina:

lamento decirte que no tengo nada sobre lo que me pides, ninguno de mis antepasados son de Sayula, sino de Tecolotlán, }Tenamaxtlan, Autlán y Tuxcacuezco.

Saludos

Blanca Isabel

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Patricia,

I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what I found:

Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
First Generation
1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
Second Generation
2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
3. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
They had the following children.
+ 1 F i. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
M ii. Adolfo Vergara Medina was born in 1926. He died in 2004.
M iii. David Vergara Medina was born in 1932. He died in 1990.
Third Generation
4. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 26 Dec 1849 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ on 24 Feb 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
5. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ was born in Tecalithan, , Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
M i. JOSE MACXIMIANO DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 8 Jun 1874 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F ii. MA. COLUMBA DEL REFO. VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 31 Dec 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iii. JOSE GUADALUPE DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 14 Dec 1881 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iv. Maria Geronima del Pilar Vergara RODRIGUEZ was christened on 2 Oct 1883 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F v. MARIA ELIGIA VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 8 Dec 1885 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F vi. MARIA ROSARIO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 13 Jul 1887 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
M vii. Jose Salvador VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 22 Aug 1889 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
F viii. MARIA DOLOES VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
M ix. RICARDO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 2 M x. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898.
M xi. RAFAEL VERGARA RODRGIUEZ.
M xii. MANUEL VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
M xiii. FEDERICO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
6. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 3 Nov 1869 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico. MARCIANO married LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
7. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
They had the following children.
+ 3 F i. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
M ii. Alfredo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
F iii. Josefina Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
F iv. Concepcion Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
F v. Maria Rosa Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
F vi. Esperanza Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
F vii. Consuelo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
M viii. Rodolfo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
M ix. Carlos Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
M x. Salvador Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
Fourth Generation
8. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 20 May 1820 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
9. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
They had the following children.
F i. MA. JOSEFA ZENONA VERGARA SILVA was christened on 25 Jun 1846 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M ii. JOSE MARIA SELSO VERGARA SILVA was christened on 6 Apr 1848 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 4 M iii. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was christened on 26 Dec 1849.
M iv. JOSE LEANDRO VERGARA SILVA was christened on 28 Feb 1853 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M v. JOSE LIBRADO VERGARA SILVA was christened on 19 Aug 1854 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M vi. JOSE CIRIACO VERGARA SILVA was christened on 18 Jun 1856 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M vii. JOSE BENIGNO DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was christened on 13 Feb 1858 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F viii. MA. EUTIMIA DEL CARMEN VERGARA SILVA was christened on 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M ix. JOSE MANUEL VERGARA SILVA was christened on 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F x. Maria Clemencia VERGARA SILVA was born on 23 Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 23 Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
10. JOSE MARIA RODRIGUEZ. JOSE married MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA on 12 Jun 1846 in Zapotiltic, Jalisco, Mexico.
11. MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA.
They had the following children.
+ 5 F i. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ.
12. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in 1852. Juan married Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO on 12 Nov 1863 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
13. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was christened on 1 Jul 1836 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
M i. MANUEL MEDINA TOPETE.
M ii. ARNULFO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 6 Nov 1864 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iii. MARIA GUADALUPE MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 15 May 1866 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iv. MARIA PETRA MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 30 Jun 1867 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 6 M v. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 3 Nov 1869.
F vi. MARIA AMPARO DEL REFUGIO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 10 Feb 1872 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
M vii. DANIEL MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 1 Feb 1874 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
14. SALVADOR GONZALEZ-GUERRA. SALVADOR married MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA on 9 Nov 1879 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
15. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
They had the following children.
+ 7 F i. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
Fifth Generation
16. Marcial VERGARA. Marcial married Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
17. Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
They had the following children.
+ 8 M i. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 20 May 1820.
F ii. MA. JOSEFA SUSANA VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 27 Jun 1822 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iii. JOSE MA. SEBERO VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 10 Nov 1824 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iv. MA. JOSEFA DEL ROSARIO VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 8 Dec 1826 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F v. MARIA JOSEFA HERCULANA VERGARA HINOJOSA was christened on 8 Nov 1829 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
18. Luciano SILVA. Luciano married MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
19. MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
They had the following children.
F i. MARIA JUANA PRAXEDIS SILVA BARGAS was christened on 24 Jul 1816 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F ii. MARIA JOSEFA ELUTERIA SILVA VARGAS was christened on 21 Feb 1831 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iii. MARIA DOLORES JOSEFA FAUSTINA DE JESUS SILVA VARGAS was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 17 Feb 1835 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iv. JOSE MARIA EPIFANIO SILVA VARGAS was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 7 Apr 1840 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 9 F v. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
24. JOSE RAMON MEDINA MICHEL. JOSE married MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES on 28 Jul 1842 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
25. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 27 May 1822 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children.
+ 12 M i. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in 1852.
M ii. RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 12 Apr 1851 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iii. JUAN NEPOMUCENO DE JESUS MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 17 May 1843 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iv. JOSE CARLOS MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 18 Apr 1848 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
M v. ZENON RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 24 Jun 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
M vi. RAMON DEL REFUGIO MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 5 Jul 1852 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
26. Pedro TOPETE. Pedro married Petra ENSISO.
27. Petra ENSISO.
They had the following children.
M i. Jose Bernardino Guadalupe de Jesus TOPETE Ensiso was christened on 20 May 1835 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 13 F ii. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was christened on 1 Jul 1836.
30. RAMON MUNGUIA. RAMON married MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN on 28 Nov 1838 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
31. MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN.
They had the following children.
F i. RAMONA YLDEFONZA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 25 Jan 1842 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
M ii. CARLOS MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 4 Nov 1844 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iii. JOSE FRANCISCO MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 18 Sep 1857 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico.
F iv. MARIA VIRGINIA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 14 May 1860 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 15 F v. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
Sixth Generation
50. SIMON CASTILLO. SIMON married Feliciana Flores on 21 Apr 1819 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
51. Feliciana Flores.
They had the following children.
F i. MA. DEL REFUGIO CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 5 Apr 1820 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 25 F ii. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 27 May 1822.
F iii. MARIA MAGDALENA PRAGEDIS CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 23 Jul 1824 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
M iv. JOSE MAXIMO CASTILLO FLORES was born in Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 13 May 1826 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
52. Andres TOPETE. Andres married Manuela PONSE.
53. Manuela PONSE.
They had the following children.
+ 26 M i. Pedro TOPETE.
54. Jose Antonio ENSISO. Jose married Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
55. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
They had the following children.
M i. JOSE LUIS YGNACIO ENCISO AHUMADA was christened on 25 Aug 1805 in Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
+ 27 F ii. Petra ENSISO.
M iii. Ygnacio Severo was born on 2 Feb 1822 in . He was christened on 5 Feb 1822 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
Seventh Generation
108. Juan DE ENCISO was born in 1768 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico. Juan married Juana DABALOS in 1797 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Catolica, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
109. Juana DABALOS was born in 1769 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico.
They had the following children.
+ 54 M i. Jose Antonio ENSISO.
110. Juan Jose AHUMADA. Juan married Josefa CASTELLON.
111. Josefa CASTELLON.
They had the following children.
+ 55 F i. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.

I hope that this helps.

Jonathan

Comment

I don´t know were do you find this, but you even have my mother there, Luz
Georgina Vergara Medina, let me see it carefully but it might be my own
research!, it´s a lot of data, what is an Ahnentafel chart?.

Thank you for helping me, I´ll tell you in a few days if you provide me
aditional info and that means someone is doing the same reseach that I am
doing.

Gracias again.
Patty

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM, wrote:

> Patricia,
>
> I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what
> I found:
>
> Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
> First Generation
> 1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
> Second Generation
> 2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz
> Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 3. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
> They had the following children.
> + 1 F i. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in
> 1929. She died in 2002.
> M ii. Adolfo Vergara Medina was born in 1926. He
> died in 2004.
> M iii. David Vergara Medina was born in 1932. He
> died in 1990.
> Third Generation
> 4. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was born in Ciudad Guzman,
> Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 26 Dec 1849 in Zapotlan El Grande,
> Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ on 24 Feb
> 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 5. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ was born in Tecalithan, , Jalisco, Mexico.
> They had the following children.
> M i. JOSE MACXIMIANO DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ
> was christened on 8 Jun 1874 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F ii. MA. COLUMBA DEL REFO. VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
> christened on 31 Dec 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M iii. JOSE GUADALUPE DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ
> was christened on 14 Dec 1881 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F iv. Maria Geronima del Pilar Vergara RODRIGUEZ
> was christened on 2 Oct 1883 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F v. MARIA ELIGIA VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
> christened on 8 Dec 1885 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F vi. MARIA ROSARIO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
> christened on 13 Jul 1887 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M vii. Jose Salvador VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
> christened on 22 Aug 1889 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F viii. MARIA DOLOES VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
> christened on 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M ix. RICARDO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on
> 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
> + 2 M x. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898.
> M xi. RAFAEL VERGARA RODRGIUEZ.
> M xii. MANUEL VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
> M xiii. FEDERICO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
> 6. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 3 Nov 1869 in
> Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico. MARCIANO married LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
> 7. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
> They had the following children.
> + 3 F i. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in
> 1900. She died in 1972.
> M ii. Alfredo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> F iii. Josefina Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> F iv. Concepcion Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> F v. Maria Rosa Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> F vi. Esperanza Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> F vii. Consuelo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> M viii. Rodolfo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> M ix. Carlos Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> M x. Salvador Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
> Fourth Generation
> 8. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 20 May 1820 in
> Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA DEL
> REFUGIO SILVA.
> 9. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
> They had the following children.
> F i. MA. JOSEFA ZENONA VERGARA SILVA was
> christened on 25 Jun 1846 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M ii. JOSE MARIA SELSO VERGARA SILVA was
> christened on 6 Apr 1848 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> + 4 M iii. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was
> christened on 26 Dec 1849.
> M iv. JOSE LEANDRO VERGARA SILVA was christened on
> 28 Feb 1853 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M v. JOSE LIBRADO VERGARA SILVA was christened on
> 19 Aug 1854 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M vi. JOSE CIRIACO VERGARA SILVA was christened on
> 18 Jun 1856 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M vii. JOSE BENIGNO DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was
> christened on 13 Feb 1858 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F viii. MA. EUTIMIA DEL CARMEN VERGARA SILVA was
> christened on 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M ix. JOSE MANUEL VERGARA SILVA was christened on
> 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> F x. Maria Clemencia VERGARA SILVA was born on 23
> Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. She was
> christened on 23 Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> 10. JOSE MARIA RODRIGUEZ. JOSE married MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA on 12
> Jun 1846 in Zapotiltic, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 11. MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA.
> They had the following children.
> + 5 F i. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ.
> 12. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in 1852. Juan married Maria
> Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO on 12 Nov 1863 in Corazon De Jesus,
> Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 13. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was christened on 1 Jul 1836 in
> Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
> They had the following children.
> M i. MANUEL MEDINA TOPETE.
> M ii. ARNULFO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 6
> Nov 1864 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> F iii. MARIA GUADALUPE MEDINA TOPETE was christened
> on 15 May 1866 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
> F iv. MARIA PETRA MEDINA TOPETE was christened on
> 30 Jun 1867 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
> + 6 M v. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was
> christened on 3 Nov 1869.
> F vi. MARIA AMPARO DEL REFUGIO MEDINA TOPETE was
> christened on 10 Feb 1872 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M vii. DANIEL MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 1 Feb
> 1874 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 14. SALVADOR GONZALEZ-GUERRA. SALVADOR married MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA
> on 9 Nov 1879 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 15. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
> They had the following children.
> + 7 F i. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
> Fifth Generation
> 16. Marcial VERGARA. Marcial married Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
> 17. Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
> They had the following children.
> + 8 M i. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was
> christened on 20 May 1820.
> F ii. MA. JOSEFA SUSANA VERGARA YNOJOSA was
> christened on 27 Jun 1822 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> M iii. JOSE MA. SEBERO VERGARA YNOJOSA was
> christened on 10 Nov 1824 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F iv. MA. JOSEFA DEL ROSARIO VERGARA YNOJOSA was
> christened on 8 Dec 1826 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F v. MARIA JOSEFA HERCULANA VERGARA HINOJOSA was
> christened on 8 Nov 1829 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> 18. Luciano SILVA. Luciano married MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
> 19. MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
> They had the following children.
> F i. MARIA JUANA PRAXEDIS SILVA BARGAS was
> christened on 24 Jul 1816 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F ii. MARIA JOSEFA ELUTERIA SILVA VARGAS was
> christened on 21 Feb 1831 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F iii. MARIA DOLORES JOSEFA FAUSTINA DE JESUS SILVA
> VARGAS was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 17
> Feb 1835 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M iv. JOSE MARIA EPIFANIO SILVA VARGAS was born in
> Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 7 Apr 1840 in Zapotlan
> El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
> + 9 F v. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
> 24. JOSE RAMON MEDINA MICHEL. JOSE married MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES
> on 28 Jul 1842 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 25. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 27 May 1822 in
> Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> They had the following children.
> + 12 M i. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in
> 1852.
> M ii. RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 12
> Apr 1851 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M iii. JUAN NEPOMUCENO DE JESUS MEDINA CASTILLO was
> christened on 17 May 1843 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M iv. JOSE CARLOS MEDINA CASTILLO was christened
> on 18 Apr 1848 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M v. ZENON RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened
> on 24 Jun 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M vi. RAMON DEL REFUGIO MEDINA CASTILLO was
> christened on 5 Jul 1852 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 26. Pedro TOPETE. Pedro married Petra ENSISO.
> 27. Petra ENSISO.
> They had the following children.
> M i. Jose Bernardino Guadalupe de Jesus TOPETE
> Ensiso was christened on 20 May 1835 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
> + 13 F ii. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was
> christened on 1 Jul 1836.
> 30. RAMON MUNGUIA. RAMON married MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN on 28 Nov 1838
> in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 31. MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN.
> They had the following children.
> F i. RAMONA YLDEFONZA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
> christened on 25 Jan 1842 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M ii. CARLOS MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 4
> Nov 1844 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M iii. JOSE FRANCISCO MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
> christened on 18 Sep 1857 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> F iv. MARIA VIRGINIA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
> christened on 14 May 1860 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> + 15 F v. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
> Sixth Generation
> 50. SIMON CASTILLO. SIMON married Feliciana Flores on 21 Apr 1819 in
> Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 51. Feliciana Flores.
> They had the following children.
> F i. MA. DEL REFUGIO CASTILLO FLORES was
> christened on 5 Apr 1820 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> + 25 F ii. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was christened
> on 27 May 1822.
> F iii. MARIA MAGDALENA PRAGEDIS CASTILLO FLORES was
> christened on 23 Jul 1824 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> M iv. JOSE MAXIMO CASTILLO FLORES was born in
> Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 13 May 1826 in Corazon De
> Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 52. Andres TOPETE. Andres married Manuela PONSE.
> 53. Manuela PONSE.
> They had the following children.
> + 26 M i. Pedro TOPETE.
> 54. Jose Antonio ENSISO. Jose married Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
> 55. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
> They had the following children.
> M i. JOSE LUIS YGNACIO ENCISO AHUMADA was
> christened on 25 Aug 1805 in Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco,
> Mexico.
> + 27 F ii. Petra ENSISO.
> M iii. Ygnacio Severo was born on 2 Feb 1822 in .
> He was christened on 5 Feb 1822 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
> Seventh Generation
> 108. Juan DE ENCISO was born in 1768 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito
> Federal, Mexico. Juan married Juana DABALOS in 1797 in Nuestra Senora Del
> Pilar, Catolica, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
> 109. Juana DABALOS was born in 1769 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito
> Federal, Mexico.
> They had the following children.
> + 54 M i. Jose Antonio ENSISO.
> 110. Juan Jose AHUMADA. Juan married Josefa CASTELLON.
> 111. Josefa CASTELLON.
> They had the following children.
> + 55 F i. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
>
>
> I hope that this helps.
>
> Jonathan

Comment

No, It is not my reseach, it is quite more complete with the christening
datas, so far.
Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!,

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, patty haro wrote:

> I don´t know were do you find this, but you even have my mother there, Luz
> Georgina Vergara Medina, let me see it carefully but it might be my own
> research!, it´s a lot of data, what is an Ahnentafel chart?.
>
> Thank you for helping me, I´ll tell you in a few days if you provide me
> aditional info and that means someone is doing the same reseach that I am
> doing.
>
> Gracias again.
> Patty
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM, wrote:
>
>> Patricia,
>>
>> I took a look at what you had, and did a little looking. And here is what
>> I found:
>>
>> Ahnentafel Chart for Luz Georgina Vergara Medina
>> First Generation
>> 1. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in 1929. She died in 2002.
>> Second Generation
>> 2. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898. Adolfo married Luz
>> Medina Gonzalez-Guerra in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 3. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in 1900. She died in 1972.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 1 F i. Luz Georgina Vergara Medina was born in
>> 1929. She died in 2002.
>> M ii. Adolfo Vergara Medina was born in 1926. He
>> died in 2004.
>> M iii. David Vergara Medina was born in 1932. He
>> died in 1990.
>> Third Generation
>> 4. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was born in Ciudad Guzman,
>> Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 26 Dec 1849 in Zapotlan El Grande,
>> Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ on 24 Feb
>> 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 5. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ was born in Tecalithan, , Jalisco, Mexico.
>> They had the following children.
>> M i. JOSE MACXIMIANO DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ
>> was christened on 8 Jun 1874 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F ii. MA. COLUMBA DEL REFO. VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
>> christened on 31 Dec 1872 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M iii. JOSE GUADALUPE DE JESUS VERGARA RODRIGUEZ
>> was christened on 14 Dec 1881 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F iv. Maria Geronima del Pilar Vergara RODRIGUEZ
>> was christened on 2 Oct 1883 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F v. MARIA ELIGIA VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
>> christened on 8 Dec 1885 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F vi. MARIA ROSARIO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
>> christened on 13 Jul 1887 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M vii. Jose Salvador VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
>> christened on 22 Aug 1889 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F viii. MARIA DOLOES VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was
>> christened on 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M ix. RICARDO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ was christened on
>> 14 Sep 1893 in Zapotlán el Grande, Ciudad Guzmán, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> + 2 M x. Adolfo Vergara Rodriguez was born in 1898.
>> M xi. RAFAEL VERGARA RODRGIUEZ.
>> M xii. MANUEL VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
>> M xiii. FEDERICO VERGARA RODRIGUEZ.
>> 6. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 3 Nov 1869 in
>> Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico. MARCIANO married LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
>> 7. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 3 F i. Luz Medina Gonzalez-Guerra was born in
>> 1900. She died in 1972.
>> M ii. Alfredo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> F iii. Josefina Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> F iv. Concepcion Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> F v. Maria Rosa Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> F vi. Esperanza Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> F vii. Consuelo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> M viii. Rodolfo Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> M ix. Carlos Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> M x. Salvador Medina Gonzalez-Guerra.
>> Fourth Generation
>> 8. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was christened on 20 May 1820 in
>> Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. JOSE married MARIA DEL
>> REFUGIO SILVA.
>> 9. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
>> They had the following children.
>> F i. MA. JOSEFA ZENONA VERGARA SILVA was
>> christened on 25 Jun 1846 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M ii. JOSE MARIA SELSO VERGARA SILVA was
>> christened on 6 Apr 1848 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> + 4 M iii. JOSE DOLORES DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was
>> christened on 26 Dec 1849.
>> M iv. JOSE LEANDRO VERGARA SILVA was christened
>> on 28 Feb 1853 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M v. JOSE LIBRADO VERGARA SILVA was christened
>> on 19 Aug 1854 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M vi. JOSE CIRIACO VERGARA SILVA was christened
>> on 18 Jun 1856 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M vii. JOSE BENIGNO DE JESUS VERGARA SILVA was
>> christened on 13 Feb 1858 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F viii. MA. EUTIMIA DEL CARMEN VERGARA SILVA was
>> christened on 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M ix. JOSE MANUEL VERGARA SILVA was christened on
>> 24 Dec 1860 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> F x. Maria Clemencia VERGARA SILVA was born on
>> 23 Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. She
>> was christened on 23 Nov 1866 in Nuestra Senora Del Pilar, Guadalajara,
>> Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 10. JOSE MARIA RODRIGUEZ. JOSE married MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA on
>> 12 Jun 1846 in Zapotiltic, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 11. MARIA DEL REFUGIO BRIZUELA.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 5 F i. Maria PILAR RODRIGUEZ.
>> 12. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in 1852. Juan married Maria
>> Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO on 12 Nov 1863 in Corazon De Jesus,
>> Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 13. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was christened on 1 Jul 1836
>> in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> They had the following children.
>> M i. MANUEL MEDINA TOPETE.
>> M ii. ARNULFO MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 6
>> Nov 1864 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> F iii. MARIA GUADALUPE MEDINA TOPETE was
>> christened on 15 May 1866 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> F iv. MARIA PETRA MEDINA TOPETE was christened on
>> 30 Jun 1867 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> + 6 M v. MARCIANO ALFREDO MEDINA TOPETE was
>> christened on 3 Nov 1869.
>> F vi. MARIA AMPARO DEL REFUGIO MEDINA TOPETE was
>> christened on 10 Feb 1872 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M vii. DANIEL MEDINA TOPETE was christened on 1
>> Feb 1874 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 14. SALVADOR GONZALEZ-GUERRA. SALVADOR married MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA
>> on 9 Nov 1879 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 15. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 7 F i. LUCIA GONZALEZ-GUERRA.
>> Fifth Generation
>> 16. Marcial VERGARA. Marcial married Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
>> 17. Maria Patricia HINOJOSA.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 8 M i. JOSE MA. FELIZ VERGARA YNOJOSA was
>> christened on 20 May 1820.
>> F ii. MA. JOSEFA SUSANA VERGARA YNOJOSA was
>> christened on 27 Jun 1822 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M iii. JOSE MA. SEBERO VERGARA YNOJOSA was
>> christened on 10 Nov 1824 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F iv. MA. JOSEFA DEL ROSARIO VERGARA YNOJOSA was
>> christened on 8 Dec 1826 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F v. MARIA JOSEFA HERCULANA VERGARA HINOJOSA was
>> christened on 8 Nov 1829 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> 18. Luciano SILVA. Luciano married MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
>> 19. MARIA DE CARMEN VARGAS.
>> They had the following children.
>> F i. MARIA JUANA PRAXEDIS SILVA BARGAS was
>> christened on 24 Jul 1816 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F ii. MARIA JOSEFA ELUTERIA SILVA VARGAS was
>> christened on 21 Feb 1831 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F iii. MARIA DOLORES JOSEFA FAUSTINA DE JESUS
>> SILVA VARGAS was born in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened
>> on 17 Feb 1835 in Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M iv. JOSE MARIA EPIFANIO SILVA VARGAS was born
>> in Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 7 Apr 1840 in
>> Zapotlan El Grande, Ciudad Guzman, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> + 9 F v. MARIA DEL REFUGIO SILVA.
>> 24. JOSE RAMON MEDINA MICHEL. JOSE married MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO
>> FLORES on 28 Jul 1842 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 25. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was christened on 27 May 1822 in
>> Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 12 M i. Juan Ramon MEDINA CASTILLO was born in
>> 1852.
>> M ii. RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened on 12
>> Apr 1851 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M iii. JUAN NEPOMUCENO DE JESUS MEDINA CASTILLO
>> was christened on 17 May 1843 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M iv. JOSE CARLOS MEDINA CASTILLO was christened
>> on 18 Apr 1848 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M v. ZENON RAMON MEDINA CASTILLO was christened
>> on 24 Jun 1846 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M vi. RAMON DEL REFUGIO MEDINA CASTILLO was
>> christened on 5 Jul 1852 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 26. Pedro TOPETE. Pedro married Petra ENSISO.
>> 27. Petra ENSISO.
>> They had the following children.
>> M i. Jose Bernardino Guadalupe de Jesus TOPETE
>> Ensiso was christened on 20 May 1835 in Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> + 13 F ii. Maria Petra Guadalupe TOPETE ENSISO was
>> christened on 1 Jul 1836.
>> 30. RAMON MUNGUIA. RAMON married MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN on 28 Nov 1838
>> in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 31. MARIA ZENOBIA BARRAGAN.
>> They had the following children.
>> F i. RAMONA YLDEFONZA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
>> christened on 25 Jan 1842 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M ii. CARLOS MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was christened on 4
>> Nov 1844 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> M iii. JOSE FRANCISCO MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
>> christened on 18 Sep 1857 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> F iv. MARIA VIRGINIA MUNGUIA BARRAGAN was
>> christened on 14 May 1860 in San Francisco, Tamazula De Gordiano, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> + 15 F v. MARIA DE JESUS MUNGUIA.
>> Sixth Generation
>> 50. SIMON CASTILLO. SIMON married Feliciana Flores on 21 Apr 1819 in
>> Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 51. Feliciana Flores.
>> They had the following children.
>> F i. MA. DEL REFUGIO CASTILLO FLORES was
>> christened on 5 Apr 1820 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> + 25 F ii. MARIA FELIPA CASTILLO FLORES was
>> christened on 27 May 1822.
>> F iii. MARIA MAGDALENA PRAGEDIS CASTILLO FLORES
>> was christened on 23 Jul 1824 in Corazon De Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> M iv. JOSE MAXIMO CASTILLO FLORES was born in
>> Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 13 May 1826 in Corazon De
>> Jesus, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 52. Andres TOPETE. Andres married Manuela PONSE.
>> 53. Manuela PONSE.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 26 M i. Pedro TOPETE.
>> 54. Jose Antonio ENSISO. Jose married Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
>> 55. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
>> They had the following children.
>> M i. JOSE LUIS YGNACIO ENCISO AHUMADA was
>> christened on 25 Aug 1805 in Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jalisco,
>> Mexico.
>> + 27 F ii. Petra ENSISO.
>> M iii. Ygnacio Severo was born on 2 Feb 1822 in .
>> He was christened on 5 Feb 1822 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> Seventh Generation
>> 108. Juan DE ENCISO was born in 1768 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito
>> Federal, Mexico. Juan married Juana DABALOS in 1797 in Nuestra Senora Del
>> Pilar, Catolica, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>> 109. Juana DABALOS was born in 1769 in Ciudad De Mexico, Distrito
>> Federal, Mexico.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 54 M i. Jose Antonio ENSISO.
>> 110. Juan Jose AHUMADA. Juan married Josefa CASTELLON.
>> 111. Josefa CASTELLON.
>> They had the following children.
>> + 55 F i. Maria Luiza AHUMADA.
>>
>>
>> I hope that this helps.
>>
>> Jonathan

Comment

Patty,

In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member, who I have given suggestions to.

I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.

Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call researching) with the information. I just apply the different research strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find additional information, and other times I don't.

So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today. And now it is yours again.

In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some suggestions, feel free to contact me.

As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business, for a few years now. So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for this. Don't worry about it. Just think about as a favor.

Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it. Don't worry just send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things. So just remind me, if you need to.

thanks,
Jonathan

Comment

Jonathan,

You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives without expecting anything in return.

I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with those who are just beginning.

Thank You Jonathan and thanks to all of the world class researchers.

Sincerely,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

________________________________
From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update

Patty,

In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member, who I have given suggestions to.

I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.

Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call researching) with the information. I just apply the different research strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find additional information, and other times I don't.

So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today. And now it is yours again.

In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some suggestions, feel free to contact me.
As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business, for a few years now. So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for this. Don't worry about it. Just think about as a favor.

Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it. Don't worry just send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things. So just remind me, if you need to.

thanks,
Jonathan

Comment

I agree with my cousing about Johathan and I would include Arturo Ramos
Sylvia Corona

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have
> so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives
> without expecting anything in return.
>
> I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may
> know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with
> those who are just beginning.
>
> Thank You Jonathan and thanks to all of the world class researchers.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Calif
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
>
> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I don't.
>
> So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today. And now
> it is yours again.
>
> In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at
> their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some
> suggestions, feel free to contact me.
> As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business,
> for a few years now. So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for
> this. Don't worry about it. Just think about as a favor.
>
> Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it. Don't worry just
> send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things. So just
> remind me, if you need to.
>
> thanks,
> Jonathan

Comment

Yes, thank you Jonathan for your generous and insightful assistance. I have been searching for my family lines for several decades and in a short time you came up with a couple of more generations of my family.
 
You are a genealogical genius.
 
Rolando M. Romo
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Sylvia H Corona wrote:

From: Sylvia H Corona
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:48 AM

I agree with my cousing about Johathan and I would include Arturo Ramos
Sylvia Corona

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> You are one of the many jewels of Nuestros Ranchos. We are blessed to have
> so many kind and giving members. You are one of those who gives and gives
> without expecting anything in return.
>
> I am truly fortunate to belong to such a group and hope that someday I may
> know enough about Genealogy that I can impart some of what I've learned with
> those who are just beginning.
>
> Thank You Jonathan and thanks to all of the world class researchers.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Calif
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
>
> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research.  And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent.  I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years.  Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I don't.
>
> So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today.  And now
> it is yours again.
>
> In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at
> their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some
> suggestions, feel free to contact me.
> As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business,
> for a few years now.  So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for
> this.  Don't worry about it.  Just think about as a favor.
>
> Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it.  Don't worry just
> send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things.  So just
> remind me, if you need to.
>
> thanks,
> Jonathan

Comment

Jonathan,
Well, what can I tell you MIL GRACIAS, you help me a lot!!!!!, I had some of
the names buy you provide me with many dates that would be very useful to
find the records, it seems that what you have done is easy, but it is a lot
of work, and you done it overnight, so you are very good at this.
Thanks again for taking the time to help us!

Patty

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:10 PM, wrote:

> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research. And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent. I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years. Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I don't.
>
> So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today. And now
> it is yours again.
>
> In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at
> their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some
> suggestions, feel free to contact me.
> As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business,
> for a few years now. So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for
> this. Don't worry about it. Just think about as a favor.
>
> Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it. Don't worry just
> send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things. So just
> remind me, if you need to.
>
> thanks,
> Jonathan

Comment

Good Evening to All,
I've got a pretty simple question: How many members belong to Nuestros Ranchos? Thanks so much, Alice BB
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "jonathan@mexicanfhr.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:10:00 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Update
>
> Patty,
>
> In a way, it is your research.  And pretty much for each ranchos member,
> who I have given suggestions to.
>
> I look at the information, you all have uploaded to the Ranchos site, in
> your member's file and even the messages, that you all have sent.  I take
> that data, and go through it and create a PAF file from it.
>
> Then once I have created the PAF file, I start playing (what others call
> researching) with the information. I just apply the different research
> strategies, that I have learned over the years.  Lots of times, I find
> additional information, and other times I don't.
>
> So basically, it was your research, until I played with it today.  And now
> it is yours again.
>
> In fact, if anyone in the Ranchos group, would like me to take a look at
> their information, and see if I can find anything or can make some
> suggestions, feel free to contact me.
> As many of you know, I have had a part-time genealogy research business,
> for a few years now.  So some you may be wondering if I will charge, for
> this.  Don't worry about it.  Just think about as a favor.
>
> Also, if you send me an email, and I don't respond to it.  Don't worry just
> send me another, because I have habit of forgetting to do things.  So just
> remind me, if you need to.
>
> thanks,
> Jonathan

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Jonathan,  

You helped me once before and I am hoping you may be able to do so again.  I am having a
hard time finding my great, great grandmother, Anastacia Velasquez.

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Jonathan,  

I also needed to let you know that my great, great grandmother, Anastacia Velasquez married
again to a Jose? Cerda and had children who would be half brothers/sisters to Maria Guadalupe
Vaca Velasquez.   Thanks again for whatever help you may give me.

Esther Jordan
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Whatever you have, please e-mail it to me.

Thank you--------------Gloria Lopez

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Gloria, I found this in my records, it is the only child I have for this couple in my files:  I don't know if it's the same couple you are looking for or not.. hope it helps.
 
baptism 25 Dec 1808 in Jerez
Maria Josefa Soledad Roman Espanola born in Jerez 7 days old
parent: Jose Maria Roman and Maria Ygnacia de Orosco
pat grn: Bernardo Roman and Ysavel Ortis
mat grn: Jose Antonio de Orosco and Maria Josefa Sanches
pad: Jose Leon Roman and Maria Altagracia de Casas
source: 0439849 Jerez baptism

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Linda:   We all thank you for the work that you do from films in Jerez, Zacatecas.   I continue to look for the surname "ROMAN" in Jerez, Zac.    I am trying to connect them to other Roman family members.

Whatever you have, please e-mail it to me.

Thank you--------------Gloria Lopez

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   1. Familia Villalobos D?valos (arman212@sbcglobal.net)
   2. reviewing records (longsjourney@yahoo.com)

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia Villalobos D?valos
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Hello everyone,
I am trying to find info on Bernardo Villalobos and his first wife Juana D?valos and their 11 children. My great-grandmother Hermelinda Villalobos D?valos was born in Encarnaci?n de D?az, Jalisco around 1860 and married in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco on 3 May 1877.
Bernardo Villalobos married a 2nd time and had another 11 children. I don't know anything else about the 2nd marriage.
I just realized I had written down the names Juan Villalobos and Altagracia Ibarra which I would have gotten from a cousin of my father. They are most likely the parents of Bernardo Villalobos.

Hola a todos,
Estoy tratando de encontrar m?s informaci?n sobre Bernardo Villalobos y su primera esposa Juana D?valos y sus once hijos. Mi bisabuela Hermelinda Villalobos D?valos nacio en Encarnaci?n de D?az, Jalisco alredor de 1860 y se cas? en Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco el 3 de Mayo 1877.
Bernardo Villalobos tuvo otros once hijos con su segunda esposa pero no se nada mas sobre ese matrimonio.
Me acabo de dar cuenta que yo habia apuntado los nombres Juan Villalobos y Altagracia Ibarra que me habian dado un t?o, primo de mi pap?. Han de ser los pap?s de Bernardo Villalobos.

Un saludo cordial,
Armando

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I'm in the process of redoing one of the first baptism films I did when I started my search for my ancestors in Jerez Zacatecas 12 or so years ago. When I started reading records from Mexico my Spanish was really bad and trying to read a film from 1806 was truly beyond me, I just didn't know it!  12 years later I'm finding mistakes that are terrible and have left me wondering how many records I have shared with others that are in error?  The one thing it has taught me is to use other peoples records as a base to start my own search. We can't take what people like me shared with good intentions but were in error as fact until we check it ourselves.  Some errors are numbers like 2 instead of 12, others are my ignorance of the given names in Mexico during that time period.

I hope others new to researching take what we share but order the films and records for themselves to double check the information.

The film 0439849 Jerez baptism has many errors in it's own and I did my best at the time but now it's time to make corrections in my research.  Progress not perfection is a good rule in genealogy.

Linda in Everett

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Introduction:Maria Gonzalez

Hello everyone, my name is Maria Gonzalez. I have been searching for my ancestros for a few years now. The majority of my family come from San Jose de Ojuelos and Cienega de Mata, Jal.

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Maria,
Several members of the group descend from the same Macias-Valades line. Juan Macias-Valades was son of Joseph Macias Valades and Catalina de la Vega. I guess you must know that Juan married Juana Domingues (I got information on the Dominguez and Alonso de los Hinojos if you are interested). Sebastian Macias as you may know married Juana Gonzalez de Hermosillo daughter of Diego Alonso Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Juana Aldrete. We got lot of information on the Gonzalez Hermosillo line. Also you may know that from Juana Aldrete you will be connected to the Petronila Moctezuma line (reportedly the great-great grandaughter of Moctezuma II Aztec Emperor). Pedro Nolasco Macias married Maria de los Remedios (de los Reyes) Aranda. I have some information on the Martin Sotoymayor family of Maria. I have information on many of their children, including Manuel Ygnacio and his brother Jose Miguel (my family line). I will be happy to exchange information with you.

Sincerely

Jaime Alvarado

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Hello everyone, my name is Maria Gonzalez. I have been searching for my ancestros for a few years now. The majority of my family come from San Jose de Ojuelos and Cienega de Mata, Jal. But I have found more family member in neighgboring areas like Sta. Maria de los Lagos, and Teocaltiche. The ones I am focus on at the moment is Lira and Masias. Pablo Lira (son1851), Bonifasio Lira marries Emiliana Romuala Masias (20 May 1812). Jose Masias (b1774), Manuel Ygnacio Masias-Balades (around 1750), Pedro Nocolasco Masias (around 1700), Sebastian Masias (around 1690), Juan Macias-Valades (around 1670) . All except Juan Masias that I know have been married in Cienega de Mata, Jalisco. I'm looking forward to learning from everyone with their thoughts and suggestions and to share what information I can bring to the group.
MGonzalez

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Hello Jaime
I am in awe with all this information. I did have the names of Juana's parents Juan Hernandez and Ana Domingues de los Hinojos but I haven't researched the films with Juana Domingues birth date. I have it as 11 Apr 1665 Ags. Is that what you have?
I do have a photocopy of Sevastian Macias-Valades and Juana Hermosillo marriage on 6 July 1710 from the LDS library. I still have to verify on the birth date of Juana Alderte, the date I have of her christening is 10 Jan 1689. Do you have the same? I had no idea about the connection of Juana Alderte to Moctezuma II. How did you find it? Is it in the LDS films? Do you any books that you might recommend for research? For the children of Pedro Nolasco Macias and Ma Remedioz Aranda I have,
Manuel Ygnacio (?1750); Francisco Antonio (?); Joseph de la Trinidad, b.16 Jan 1746; Juan Antonio c.20 Jan 1748; Ma. Antonia Theodora (?). Well that's all I have at the moment. Thank you for sharing. I hope to communicate further.
Sincerely,
MGonzalez

Maria Gonzalez

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HI María, Im glad we have a new member to our great group, we are already related, I also descend from the Macías-Valadés like many alteños here. Juan was married 12 jun 1693 in Aguascalientes to Juana Gómez de Espejo, we were actually talking about this not too long ago. Well I can send what I have tomorrow, Juan was son of José de M. y V.

and Catalina Tavera de la Vega (aka: Rubio) (we can give an entire explanation as to the AKA's for many Spanish people of the time) People could have used any numerous last names. Juana Gómez de Espejo was daughter of Juan Hernández y Gamiño and Ana Domínguez, I believe Juana used her grandmother's name, if im not mistaken, I can check. *Note Juana did not use her father's name but her grandmother. Ill send you a file with all my stuff starting with Pedro Nolasco, Im mostly useful and helpful within the 1500s-late 1700's. I have a huge alteño family database so I can try helping you with other lines If you'd like, I dont want to keep all this stuff to myself, we need to share so we can keep growing our tree. I learned citing is important! -Daniel Camino

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Maria Gonzalez

Hi Daniel, thanks for the information. Can you direct me where to start reading up on the explanation as to why and how the Spanish people would use AKA's. I would like to read up on the states of Jalisco and Aguascalientes.Thanks again, M Gonzalez

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Im glad it helps, Im not sure where or if there is such a book about specifially the AKA. I know Retoñs just explain where each person got the AKA. "El apellido que utilizó por su abuela..something typical youd read. Well to get to he point, before the indepndence of Spanish America, there were no rules of surnames, not even the typical father mother combo. Until the Borbón Reforms it was placed. Take this family Rodrigo Olivares and María Hurtado de Mendoza, hey had Catalina, Francisca and Isbael Hurtado de Mendoza and Bernabé Olivares, notice all daughters take mother's name. Isabel is named after her grandmother the GREAT isabel I Hurtado de Mendoza. Many Ranchos members can trace to her several times. I trace to her on 12 different time, alteños intermarried too Much. LOL. Also the children could take which ever side was more important or prominant. If both were of equal, then they could combine last names. The original Hurtado de Mendoza broke into about 7 different families all contain Mendoza,

Hurtado de Mendoza, Gómez de Mendoza, Gutiérrez de Mendoza, Sánchez de Mendoza, de Ornellas y Hurtado de Mendoza, de Alcalá y Hurtado de Mendoza, López de Quezada y Mendoza. Most of the families in Los Altos also happend like this, creating different new names must have been a joy. I hope this helps. Also you may here Los Altos family, Yes the main Los Altos de Jalisco is a region but its family (alteños) extend into southern Zacatecas, northeast Zacatecas (pinos area), Aguascalientes, Guanjuato, Northwestern michoacán, southern Jalisco and to Guadalajara. This is because the rapid movement and travel Alteños did, taking them their blood alteño. -Daniel

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La Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara

Hello All Group Members: Ive been busy making copies of La Sagrada Mitra by Luz Montejano Hilton and so far have copied the first 125 pages of the dispensas, if any one needs a scan or lookup I will be gladly to help anyone.

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If you could look up my grandmother for me I would greatly appreciate it. Her name is Paula/Pabla Ramos Mascorro, born in Aguascalientes, 19 JUN 1876, parents, Antonio Ramos, Jesusita Mascorro.
Any and all information if any.
Warm Regards, Delia deljmar99@webtv.net

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Daniel please be careful here as there are copyright issues to consider.

joseph

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mendezdelcamino wrote:
>
> Hello All Group Members: Ive been busy making copies of La Sagrada
> Mitra by Luz Montejano Hilton and so far have copied the first 125
> pages of the dispensas, if any one needs a scan or lookup I will be
> gladly to help anyone.
> -Daniel Camino

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Tecnically its legal I just cant sell it or profit from it.
The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. Under certain conditions specified in the law, libraries and archives are authorized to furnish a photocopy or other reproduction. One of these specified conditions is that the photocopy or reproduction is not to be "used for any purpose other than private study, scholarship, or research. " -Daniel

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I have concerns about its legality. I was going to photocopy the hernandez line from SHARR volume V for Bill because of his interest but decided not to because of these same concerns. I am going to put together a gedcom file instead. I am also trying to find out if they are still some copies for sale.

R.A.Ricci

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Hello-

I am looking for the mother and maternal grandmother of María Tavera que nació apróx. en 1626.

She was married to Gerónimo de Ornelas Mendoza se casó apróximadamente en 1645 en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco .Los padres de Gerónimo son Alvaro Ornelas Mendoza y Petronila Orozco, The four children of Maria and Gernomimo are José Ornelas Villaseñor de 1646, Margarita Tavera de 1648, Juana Mendoza dse 1650, y Gertrudis Ornelas Villaseñor de 1659, todas las fechas son apróx

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Hi, I have the info, María Tavera de la Vega is daughter of Antonio Ramírez de Tavera and Leonor Rubio, Leonor Rubio was daughter of Francisco Gutiérrez de la Vega and Ana González y Florida. This is the key part. Francisco was son of Diego González de la Vega and María Rubio. María Tavera also used María Rubio y Godínez, dont know where the last part comes in?, just like Leonor Rubio's grandmother. Rubio passed maternally. This also happened many times in the family, Rubio was popoular among the woman of the great alteño family. We also know this because all the Tavera's come from Antonio, he had three sisters. Your María ca. 1625 Antonio Tavera born 1592 or so. I have eight kids in total for Antonio and Leonor Rubio. -Hope this helps. Daniel Camino

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Maria Rubio Godines
Pedigree

Female

Event(s):

Birth:

About 1630
Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
Antonio Tavera
Family

Mother:
Leonor Rubio or Gutierrez de La Vega

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Another Jewel who knows so much and shares so much....thanks Daniel.

Alicia

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To: Patty Hoyos
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 9:23:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Sagrada Mitra De Guadalajara

Hi, I have the info, María Tavera de la Vega is daughter of Antonio Ramírez de Tavera and Leonor Rubio, Leonor Rubio was daughter of Francisco Gutiérrez de la Vega and Ana González y Florida. This is the key part. Francisco was son of Diego González de la Vega and María Rubio. María Tavera also used María Rubio y Godínez, dont know where the last part comes in?, just like Leonor Rubio's grandmother. Rubio passed maternally. This also happened many times in the family, Rubio was popoular among the woman of the great alteño family. We also know this because all the Tavera's come from Antonio, he had three sisters. Your María ca. 1625 Antonio Tavera born 1592 or so. I have eight kids in total for Antonio and Leonor Rubio. -Hope this helps. Daniel Camino

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Maria Rubio Godines
Pedigree

Female

Event(s):

Birth:

About 1630
Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
Antonio Tavera
Family

Mother:
Leonor Rubio or Gutierrez de La Vega

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Teocaltiche and driving in Los Altos...

Monday, June 1, 2009

Dear Armando--

Thanks for the information.  I have been to a number of places in Los Altos and felt having a smaller car to go along some of the very winding roads to be

Ramon Munguia in Jalisco

Sunday, May 31, 2009

Dear Linda--

Thanks for inquiring about the name of Ramon MUNGUIA.  No, this is not one of mine.  As a matter of fact I have very few MUNGUIA names and not any good info

Research Digest

Could any one tell me if a town named Atoyop existed in Jalisco in the 1940's.? It does not seem to exist now.?

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Any chance the name could be Atoyac?

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Could any one tell me if a town named Atoyop existed in Jalisco in the
1940's.? It does not seem to exist now.? I am in need of church records from
that area.

Tracey

The Sánchez de Mendoza Family

Hello, Im just putting this out here does anyone know who is Bartholomé Martín who married María Sánchez de Mendoza daughter of Marta Sánchez de Mendoza and Juan Sánchez de Lara back in the ear

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Daniel,
On Ancestry.com, there is a family tree which includes Bartolome Martin del Campo (b: 1574)Revilla de Campos, Revilla, Espana; parents: Juan Martin de Campos (b:1547) and Maria Antonia Antolin (b:1549); Juan's parents: Blas Martin del Campo and Antonia de la Torre; Maria Antonia's parents:Juan Antolin and Toribia Simon; Toribia's parents:Alonso Simon and Juana Giron.  I've attached the link.  These are the parents I had listed initially for Bartolome.
 http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/pedigree.aspx?tid=4242119&pg=o#pedigree=-1…

Eloise Gomez Reyes

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Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Sánchez de Mendoza Family

Hello, Im just putting this out here does anyone know who is Bartholomé Martín who married María Sánchez de Mendoza daughter of Marta Sánchez de Mendoza and Juan Sánchez de Lara back in the earyl 1600s and late 1590s? Is Bartholomé Martín the same as Bartholomé Martín del campo? -Daniel 

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Daniel,
I have reviewed the baptism registry for Bartolome Martin.  Source 0227520, Batch J605093, Dates 1544-1608, Sagrario Metropolitano.  It is dated September 11, 1567.  Father: Pablo Martin, Mother: Maria de Campos: Padrinos: Antonio Perez y su mujer Leonor Marquez.  In the same film I found Maria Martin dated July 23 1573.  It is too hard to read the rest of the entry on Maria but I can see that the parents are also Pablo Martin and Maria de Campos.  My guess, without further investigation, is that Bartolome Martin and Bartolome Martin del Campo are the same.  I tried to attach it to an earlier message, but was unsuccessful.  I also tried to download it through "Create Content."  If you do not already have it, I can e-mail it to you directly.

Eloise Reyes

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Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Sánchez de Mendoza Family

Hello, Im just putting this out here does anyone know who is Bartholomé Martín who married María Sánchez de Mendoza daughter of Marta Sánchez de Mendoza and Juan Sánchez de Lara back in the earyl 1600s and late 1590s? Is Bartholomé Martín the same as Bartholomé Martín del campo? -Daniel 

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Please Eloise send me a copy, i was stuck on this line b/c someone on genealogia de Mexico stated thar Bartolome Martin del campo was son of juan Martin del Campo and Antonia Atolini. Bartolome was said to have been from Palencia in los Reino de Castilla, but there isnt evidence ive seen? Have you been able to find a marriage for him and Maria Sanchez?

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> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:36:57 -0400
> From: egreyes@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Sánchez de Mendoza Family
>
> Daniel,
> I have reviewed the baptism registry for Bartolome Martin. Source 0227520, Batch J605093, Dates 1544-1608, Sagrario Metropolitano. It is dated September 11, 1567. Father: Pablo Martin, Mother: Maria de Campos: Padrinos: Antonio Perez y su mujer Leonor Marquez. In the same film I found Maria Martin dated July 23 1573. It is too hard to read the rest of the entry on Maria but I can see that the parents are also Pablo Martin and Maria de Campos. My guess, without further investigation, is that Bartolome Martin and Bartolome Martin del Campo are the same. I tried to attach it to an earlier message, but was unsuccessful. I also tried to download it through "Create Content." If you do not already have it, I can e-mail it to you directly.
>
>
> Eloise Reyes
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:08 pm
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Sánchez de Mendoza Family
>
>
> Hello, Im just putting this out here does anyone know who is Bartholomé Martín who married María Sánchez de Mendoza daughter of Marta Sánchez de Mendoza and Juan Sánchez de Lara back in the earyl 1600s and late 1590s? Is Bartholomé Martín the same as Bartholomé Martín del campo? -Daniel

DNA, Backbone SNP TEST

Dear Nuestros Ranchos members,

I have a question regarding our recent DNA sample submitted to Family Tree DNA. We submitted a sample and have received the MTDNA, for HVR1 and HVR2.

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Comment

Yes, 1 of 4 different samples (four different male lines) came back with a
need for SNP testing after they had already run two samples. My
understanding is that they did not have enough close matches in their bank
of data to clearly define the haplogroup. In that case it ended up to be
Haplogroup Q, but with no matches thus far. I have found the staff there
very willing to explain the issues involved, so call or email them. One
time I had to wait several days for a call-back, but it came.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

>
> Dear Nuestros Ranchos members,
>
> I have a question regarding our recent DNA sample submitted to Family Tree
> DNA. We submitted a sample and have received the MTDNA, for HVR1 and HVR2.
> My question is about my brother's Y DNA. They indicated they could not
> predict his haplogroup therefore they will be running his DNA sample through
> what they call Backbone SNP. Have any of you experienced this? Is this
> common or is this an anomaly?
>
>
> During the 3rd Annual Family Tree DNA Conference on Genetic Genealogy, we
> announced that if we could not predict your haplogroup with 100%
> confidence, we would run your DNA sample through our Backbone SNP test for
> free. Please note that the DNA values that you received are
> correct, it is the haplogroup that we would like to confirm through this
> additional test.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Alicia, San Jose, Calif

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Thanks for your response Raquel,

I will call or write them to get more detailed information.

Best Regards,

Alicia

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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA, Backbone SNP TEST

Yes, 1 of 4 different samples (four different male lines) came back with a
need for SNP testing after they had already run two samples. My
understanding is that they did not have enough close matches in their bank
of data to clearly define the haplogroup. In that case it ended up to be
Haplogroup Q, but with no matches thus far. I have found the staff there
very willing to explain the issues involved, so call or email them. One
time I had to wait several days for a call-back, but it came.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

>
> Dear Nuestros Ranchos members,
>
> I have a question regarding our recent DNA sample submitted to Family Tree
> DNA. We submitted a sample and have received the MTDNA, for HVR1 and HVR2.
> My question is about my brother's Y DNA. They indicated they could not
> predict his haplogroup therefore they will be running his DNA sample through
> what they call Backbone SNP. Have any of you experienced this? Is this
> common or is this an anomaly?
>
>
> During the 3rd Annual Family Tree DNA Conference on Genetic Genealogy, we
> announced that if we could not predict your haplogroup with 100%
> confidence, we would run your DNA sample through our Backbone SNP test for
> free. Please note that the DNA values that you received are
> correct, it is the haplogroup that we would like to confirm through this
> additional test.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Alicia, San Jose, Calif

Comment

Alicia,

I had My Y DNA at Family Tree. Due to the unlikely result they did a
Backbone SNP that they did not charge me for. I recall that part of
this test is to rule out other haplogroups. Although records show my
paternal line originates in San Luis Potosi, the actual origin showed
Haplogroup O, originating in South Asia, probably the Phillipines.
This is not found in the native American population.

I'd be curious to hear the result of your brother's test

Eric Robledo Edgar

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
>
> Dear Nuestros Ranchos members,
>
> I have a question regarding our recent DNA sample submitted to Family Tree DNA. We submitted a sample and have received the MTDNA, for HVR1 and HVR2. My question is about my brother's Y DNA. They indicated they could not predict his haplogroup therefore they will be running his DNA sample through what they call Backbone SNP. Have any of you experienced this? Is this common or is this an anomaly?
>
>
> During the 3rd Annual Family Tree DNA Conference on Genetic Genealogy, we announced that if we could not predict your haplogroup with 100%
> confidence, we would run your DNA sample through our Backbone SNP test for
> free.  Please note that the DNA values that you received are
> correct, it is the haplogroup that we would like to confirm through this
> additional test.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Alicia, San Jose, Calif

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Thanks Eric,

That's good to know, I'll let everyone know the outcome of the Backbone SNP test when we receive the results.

Have a good holiday everyone, and let's not forget to remember and give thanks for our war veterans.

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

________________________________
From: eric edgar
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:17:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA, Backbone SNP TEST

Alicia,

I had My Y DNA at Family Tree. Due to the unlikely result they did a
Backbone SNP that they did not charge me for. I recall that part of
this test is to rule out other haplogroups. Although records show my
paternal line originates in San Luis Potosi, the actual origin showed
Haplogroup O,  originating in South Asia, probably the Phillipines.
This is not found in the native American population.

I'd be curious to hear the result of your brother's test

Eric Robledo Edgar

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
>
> Dear Nuestros Ranchos members,
>
> I have a question regarding our recent DNA sample submitted to Family Tree DNA. We submitted a sample and have received the MTDNA, for HVR1 and HVR2. My question is about my brother's Y DNA. They indicated they could not predict his haplogroup therefore they will be running his DNA sample through what they call Backbone SNP. Have any of you experienced this? Is this common or is this an anomaly?
>
>
> During the 3rd Annual Family Tree DNA Conference on Genetic Genealogy, we announced that if we could not predict your haplogroup with 100%
> confidence, we would run your DNA sample through our Backbone SNP test for
> free.  Please note that the DNA values that you received are
> correct, it is the haplogroup that we would like to confirm through this
> additional test.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Alicia, San Jose, Calif

Me da gusto!

Gracias, Arturo Ramos- Bill Figueroa- Jaime R. Alvarado y a los demas del grupo.

Gama, Guzmán, y García

Soy nueva en nuestros ranchos. Busco primos de la familia Gama, Guzmán, y García. Mis parientes eran del area de Tamazula, Union de San Antonio, San Miguel El Alto, Ciuudad Guzman, y de Colima.

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My grandfather Rodolfo Gama was born around 1910 in Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco. His sisters were Maria Gama born on Nov 25, 1906 and Tomasa Gama born on Oct 2, 1904 in Tamazula. Their parents were Jose Crus Gama born Sep 14, 1873 in Arandas and Rosario Cruz.

Jose Crus Gama had many siblings: Micaela (DOB 1880, San Miguel el Alto), Antonio (DOB 1881), Brigida (DOB 1883, Union de San Antonio), Ysabel (DOB 1885, Union de San Antonio), and Eustacio (DOB 1888, Union de San Antonio). Their parents were Jose Ysabel Gama and Ramona Munos who were married on June 1, 1879 in San Miguel el Alto. Jose Ysabel Gama was the child of Manuel Gama (unknown DOB, estimated 1830) and Felipa Ramirez (unknown DOB, estimated 1830).

I do not know much about my grandfather Rodolfo Gama because my grandmother left him in 1942. They were married in 1939 and lived in Manzanillo, Colima.

Rosie Cordova

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Rosie:

Bienvenida al grupo. Seguro que encontraras primos por aqui...

Nos podrias proveer fechas y lugares para los nombres de tus ancestros que has proveido. Es bastante dificil seguir los nombres sin esos datos que son importantisimos para la investigacion genealogica.

To Linda: Re Jerez records

Linda,

Thank you so much for all your work in sharing the Jerez records.

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I would like to thank Linda Castanon-Long for being so generous in the time that she took to diligently transcribe the Jerez baptism records from the end of the 19th century. She has also been generous enough to post them on our website for all users to download and read at their leisure.

The files can be found in the Files Section under Reference Materials:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jerez_baptisms

Me gustaria darle las gracias a Linda Castanon-Long por ser tan generosa con el tiempo que ha dedicado a transcribir en forma tan diligente los registros de bautismo de Jerez, Zacatecas del fin del siglo XIX. Tambien ha sido tan generosa como para compartir las transcripciones y cargarlas a nuestro sitio para que todos los miembros puedan descargarlas y leerlas a su propio tiempo.

Los archivos se encuentran en la seccion de Archivos-Materiales de Referencia
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jerez_baptisms

Retonos de espana

Hi everybody i just wander if any one has for sale the books Retonos de espana or know were to buy them,thanks.

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Luis:

Nuestros Ranchos member Rick Rodriguez runs a specialty bookstore online specializing in microhistory and genealogy books about Jalisco. He has Volumes 1 and 2 for sale in his online store. You can find the link to his store and other specialty bookstores in the Links Section of the site.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Rick Rodriguez, quien es miembro de Nuestros Ranchos tiene una libreria en linea especializando en libros de microhistoria y genealogia sobre Jalisco. El tiene los tomos 1 y 2 de venta en su tienda en linea. Puedes encontrar el vinculo a su tienda asi como a otras tiendas especializadas en temas similares en la seccion de vinculos del sitio:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

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Buenas tardes don Luis,

Le recomiendo que espere la nueva edición de Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, Mariano enriqueció mucho la obra, en diez tantos aproximadamente; conocí la primera versión impresa de esta nueva edición y le aseguro que quedará muy complacido de esta obra magna de la genealogía. Solo restaría esperar a que terminen de editarla.

Cordialmente,

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BUENAS NOCHES LEON?

LEON CREO POR SU CORREO ELECTRONICO GRACIAS POR LA SUGERENCIA, TIENE USTED ALGUNA IDEA DE CUANDO SALEN A LA VENTA, GRRACIAS TAMBIEN POR EL HONOR DE DON CREO QUE NO SOY TAN VIEJO NI TAN HONORABLE PARA MERECER EL DON,

UN SALUDO CALUROSO PARA USTED Y TODOS LOS MIEMBROS.

LUIS M GONZALEZ

________________________________
From: "leondetejada@gmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:18:21 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retoños de España...

Buenas tardes don Luis,

Le recomiendo que espere la nueva edición de Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, Mariano enriqueció mucho la obra, en diez tantos aproximadamente; conocí la primera versión impresa de esta nueva edición y le aseguro que quedará muy complacido de esta obra magna de la genealogía. Solo restaría esperar a que terminen de editarla.

Cordialmente,

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HI ARTURO THANKS FOR THE ADVICE, I HAVE TRY THIS BOOK STORE, I DON'T IF IT IS MY COMPUTER ,  THERE IS NO WAY TO ORDER  THE BOOKS,  THERE IS NOTHING BUT THE HOME  PAGE,  I JUST CAN'T ORDER THEM, AGAIN GRACIAS.

LUIS M GONZALEZ

________________________________
From: "arturo.ramos2@gmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:37:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia

Luis:

Nuestros Ranchos member Rick Rodriguez runs a specialty bookstore online specializing in microhistory and genealogy books about Jalisco.  He has Volumes 1 and 2 for sale in his online store.  You can find the link to his store and other specialty bookstores in the Links Section of the site.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Rick Rodriguez, quien es miembro de Nuestros Ranchos tiene una libreria en linea especializando en libros de microhistoria y genealogia sobre Jalisco.  El tiene los tomos 1 y 2 de venta en su tienda en linea.  Puedes encontrar el vinculo a su tienda asi como a otras tiendas especializadas en temas similares en la seccion de vinculos del sitio:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15659

Tips for Google Books

I justed wanted to add to the group that I have used Google books for my research. I have Googled people and in fact I've been Googled.

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awesome!  and congratulations!

--- On Tue, 5/19/09, rosehardy@hotmail.com wrote:

From: rosehardy@hotmail.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Tips for Google Books
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 5:22 PM

I justed wanted to add to the group that I have used Google books for my research. I have Googled people and in fact I've been Googled. Like any search engine it is always best to tailor your search using quote marks. It filters out the junk. While working on my last project I found that my great-great grandfather converted to the Presbyterian religion and was the first church elder in Irwindale, California around 1900. I had found OLD Presbyterian journals in Google books with articles about my g-g grandfather and pictures of the rock church, which still stands to this day.

Google books is always worth a try and if you can't view the book online, at least you have the book information and try to order it on interlibrary loan through the local county library.

Rose Hardy
Fresno, CA

Where to buy a copy of Montejano's Sagrada Mitra

I am looking to buy a copy of La Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Luz Montejano Hilton but George Farias' bookstore (Borderlands Books) no longer has it available and I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

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I got a message from George Farias at Borderlands Books telling me that he has been trying to contact Luz Montejano for some time now to get more copies of the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara but has not been successful. If someone has a way of contacting her, please let George and me know.

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I do not know where to find the book but there is a search that you can do
to see if your surname is in the book and how many times it is mentioned. It
looks like it is pretty reliable but I am not sure because I did a search
for Avila and the search said there were 30 pages where Avila was mentioned
but the index in the back of the book has 46 individuals. Some of the
individuals appear on the same page but I am not about to go through the
whole list to see how reliable this search is. Regardless, here is the URL
in case you want to try it out:
http://books.google.com/books?id=r05mAAAAMAAJ&q=avila&pgis=1

Saludos desde Salt Lake City, Utah

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Eduardo:

Thank you for the link. I did not know that the book was up on Google books. I have a copy of the book but being able to search through the scan may prove useful nevertheless.

That being said, the book is not for me. It is for the microhistorian (cronista) of Totatiche who is a very diligent researcher who has published numerous books and spent immeasurable hours at archives in Guadalajara, which have benefited me and many other genealogy researchers of the region immensly. He wants a copy that he can hold and sift through as he is so good at doing and given the great debt I owe him, I was hoping to get him one.

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Arturo,

I want to clarify and I am sorry if I somehow said something misleading: Google Books is not showing the images of Luz Montejano's book, just a few small sections of the page where the surname appears. There are no full page images, (that would probably be a copyright infringement.) However, Google books has made a sort of index of the surnames that is accessible online. Searches: return the amount of pages where the surname appears in the book. So once someone knows that their surname appears in the book then they can search the actual book or have someone search it for them.

I hope this helps to understand what Google books has and has not done with Luz Montejano's book.

Saludos desde Lago Salado,

Eduardo H Seoane

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I just learned about Google Books at a lecture by a person that runs the web site googleyourfamilytree.com. He is not affiliated with Google in any way but he has a lot of great hints on how to use Google to research your family history-mostly free since Google doesn't charge for most features. One thing that may be of assistance to us is that if you are looking for a book on a specific subject you can go straight to Google books and weed out everything (like sites, images, etc)but books which decreases your number of hits. If they have the book, they may have the entire book or just pages but since it's in pdf format you can do a keyword search and it will highlight your words. This is especially helpful if the book is in a language in which you are not fluent. This is probably basic stuff for experienced researchers but for newbies/"nuevas" (is that correct?)like me it was helpful information that I would like to pass on.
Sherri Mora

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Arturo,

Luz Montejano Hilton posts lots of messages in the various message boards. She lives in Mexico City and probably someone at the Archives there can tell you how to contact her. She might even be able to get a copy or lend a copy to the cronista. She used to e-mail me back, but then she stopped, and I never heard from her again. She only speaks Spanish even though her surname is not Hispanic.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luz Montejano's book

Eduardo:

Thank you for the link. I did not know that the book was up on Google books. I have a copy of the book but being able to search through the scan may prove useful nevertheless.

That being said, the book is not for me. It is for the microhistorian (cronista) of Totatiche who is a very diligent researcher who has published numerous books and spent immeasurable hours at archives in Guadalajara, which have benefited me and many other genealogy researchers of the region immensly. He wants a copy that he can hold and sift through as he is so good at doing and given the great debt I owe him, I was hoping to get him one.

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I do not know where to find the book but there is a search that you can do to see if your surname is in the book and how many times it is mentioned. It looks like it is pretty reliable but I am not sure because I did a search for Avila and the search said there were 30 pages where Avila was mentioned but the index in the back of the book has 46 individuals. Some of the individuals appear on the same page but I am not about to go through the whole list to see how reliable this search is. Regardless, here is the URL in case you want to try it out: http://books.google.com/books?id=r05mAAAAMAAJ&q=avila&pgis=1

Saludos desde Salt Lake City, Utah

Diego Machado Rengel

Good Evening,

Does anyone have any information on Diego Machado Rengel born in Fresnillo, Zacatecas about 1626. His parents were Capitan Hernando Machado and Maria Bernal.

Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotlán)

Hi all I have this couple Felipe Navarro (ca. 1730) Ma. Rosalía de Guzmán (ca. 1735) who had Ma. San Juan baptized 6 jul 1763 who married Juan de Aceves?

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Sunday, May 17, 2009

Dear Daniel--

I checked your names with what I had in Ayo el Chico and could find nothing. Sorry.

Patricia Burton
San Diego

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, mendezdelcamino@live.com wrote:

> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotlán)
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 10:41 PM
> Hi all I have this couple Felipe Navarro (ca. 1730) Ma.
> Rosalía de Guzmán (ca. 1735) who had Ma. San Juan baptized
> 6 jul 1763 who married Juan de Aceves? Does anyonehave info
> on this people who have focused on Ayo Elchico or its
> surroundsings Arandas, Tepatitlán, La Barca etc..? Were
> talking from 1730 or so to the late 1700's with this
> family? Many thanks? -Daniel Camino