El Puesto de San Miguel DE LOS ALBA

While I was in Mexico several years ago I looked desperately this place. Anyone familiar with the area know that there are several "San Miguels" in the "nuestros ranchos" area. I went to all of them. Or at least I thought I did.

It wasn't until I came back to the U.S. did I come in contact with a distant cousin who happens to be a historian for Encarnacion de Diaz. I'm extremely thankful to him for the help he's given me and for his research. He also helped me find THEE San Miguel mentioned in my ancestors records. I also have photos if anyone is interesed. I hope this information can help someone else doing research in the same area.

If you have ties to this place or have more data on it's inhabitants during the 1600s please conatct me. This the part of my research where I have hit a dead end.

The following is an exerpt from an email my cousin Arq. Rodolfo H. Hernandez Ch sent me:
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San Miguel de los Alba is located at the foot of the cerro de los Gallos, in the current municipality of Encarnacion de Diaz, and it is not the same San Miguel that is mentioned in the Llanos del Tecuan, neither is it the same San Miguel that you located in a map and belongs to the state of Queretaro.

El puesto de San Miguel de los Alba was founded at the beginning of the XVII century, when it belonged to Alonso of Alba, married to Doña Leonor de Retamosa, daughter of Nicolas Macias and Leonor de Retamosa who were proprietors of extensive lands in the actual municipality of Encarnación.

This hacienda or puesto de San Miguel de los Alba, depended on the village of the Asuncion de las Aguascalientes and their inhabitants were obligated to be baptized, married and buried in the parish of this village (you can know who lived their by checking the microfilms of the Iglesia del Sagrario de Aguascalientes, corresponding to the XVII and XVIII century). In 1752 a chapel was built dedicated to San Miguel Arcangel in this hacienda, with donations from Miguel de Alba and Cristobal Villaseñor, beginning to beginning to function as a vicariate, carrying books and registrations of baptisms that were made until the year of 1778, date in which said hacienda goes on to form part of the parish of in that passes this country property to be part of the parish of Nuestra Señora de la Encarnacion de los Macias (before named el Sauz de los Macias)

After the death of Don Alonso Alva, his hacienda continued in ownership by his descendants, the Alva family, until the begingings of the century. XX. during this time the residents and surnames grew through marriage connections.

And all were devoted to the agriculture and and cattle raising to supply the trade with the north of the country.
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Romos in Jalisco

Well... first of all I want to welcome some new member that have express ther interest in the Romo line, like Ricci and also join some others with the same interest like Daniel Mendez and Luis Jaime..but of course anybody who wants to join the line research is welcome as well..!!!
Well I have been working on my second line which is "Gutierrez" with some succes and it got me all the way back to my ancestor Diego Gonzalez on the 16th Century but on the other hand I have been in a dead end on my Romo line because of the lack of registers to confirm some data.. Here is what I have got and if any of you have any common names please let me know!!...
Well I have that my Greatfather is Clemente Romo he is the youngest of 15 siblings, their parents were, Jose de Jesus Romo which married Elpidia Jimenez in Encarnacion de Diaz Jalisco on Aug 11 1887, He was born abt 1857 according to one picture that I have from him, I know from the marriage record that his parents were Juan Nepomuceno and Ramona Jimenez and that they married on Sep 24 1856 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco but the problem starts here the records of marriage information from Encarnacion have a gap between 1847 and 1857 and so far I haven't got any luck finding new information .........is someone in the group researching this periiod???? any help would be very appreciatted ..
Regards!!!

Paco Romo

Calvillo, Ags. Rancho Arroyo de Soto. Norberto Serna b. about 1805 Decendants ??

I am seeking his Relations and Decendants.

Descendants of Norberto Serna

Generation No. 1

1. NORBERTO 3 SERNA (Son of GABRIEL 2, Grandson of FLORENCIO 1) was born Abt. 1805 in R. de los Sernas, Jalpa, Zac., and died 09 Mar 1868 in Arroyo de Soto, Calvillo, Ags.. He married RAMONA CERVANTES 25 Feb 1834 in San Jose, Calvillo, Ags., daughter of JOSE CERVANTES and TEADORA CONTRERAS. She was born Abt. 1808.

More About NORBERTO SERNA:
Confirmation: San Jose, Calvillo, Ags.

Jose Maria Gutierrez Mena and Nicanor

I need help identifying relatives in a photo. I'm certain at least one primo in our group has this name in their Tree. This old family photo was sent to my grandmother, Soledad Gutierrez, who has since died. The photo
has a male adult and four children. The back reads: "Miami, Arizona Abril 2 de
1928 Sr. Josemaria Gutierrez Mena Recuerdo de sus nietos y Nicanor su
sobrino." I know these are persons related to us but cannot identify the
persons. My grandmother had said they were cousins on her father's side. Our
family is from the Gutierrez from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. Does anyone recognize the names? Your help is appreciated.

Thank you,
Eloise Reyes

DE ANDA'S DE ENCARNACION DE DIAZ, JALISCO

Looking for information on De Anda (Anda) surname from Calvillo, Ags and Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco.
What I have so far:
(My father )FELIX DE ANDA b. 1901 Aguascalientes, Ags. married Aurora Olivares March 31, 1929
Grandfather PEDRO DE ANDA b.1878, Calvillo married Paula Silva 1900; 1 child Felix b. 1901;
GG FELIX DE ANDA b. 1834 married Emilia Velasco Nov. 1867- childlren Ma. Micaela b. 1868; Amanda b. 1870; Ma. Felicitas b. 1871; Juana b. 1881; Aurelio b. 1883; Pedro b. 1878; J. Lorenzo b. 1891;
GGG RAFAEL DE ANDA married Ma. Encanacion Pedroza Oct 1832 in Encarnacion de Diaz; Children: Jose Felix 1834; Petra de Jesus b. 1836; Maria Abran b. 1839, Maria de Jesus b. ?

The Catholic church records for Aguascalientes have helped a lot.
Are the Jalisco church records available on line??

Aurora DeAnda Romo

Roman's from Jerez, Zacatecas

Hi,
I'm researching one of my blood lines from Jerez... the Roman side.

This is what I have so far

Juan Pedro Roman born abt 1864 died abt 1951
Daniel Roman baptized about 1893
Jose D. Roman born abt 1913 died abt 1998

and then my grandfather after this.

Do any of these names ring familiar? Are they in your tree?

Thanks for your help!

Best,
tania

Santiago Alonzo & Josepha Alonzo de los Ynofas (Hinojos)

The baptismal record for Maria Theresa Alonzo, child of Diego Alonzo and Juana Martinez de Sotomayor, born 11 Oct 1736 (Estanzuela), and baptized 11 Nov 1736 in Aguascalientes (Capilla de la Hacienda Peñuelas) includes her padrinos, Santiago Alonzo and Josepha Alonzo. Can anyone inform me as to their relationship - married, or sister/brother? Other?

Thank you.

Paul Gomez

Cortez Alvarado

I'm still looking for either a marriage record of Jose Refugio Cortez married to Alejandra Hernandez or.....a B-Certificate. Or

A marriage record between Antonio Cortez and Ma Manuela Alvarado Ortiz. Thanks to one of the member of Nuestros Ranchos he has given me lots of info on Ma Manuela Alvarado Ortiz who is my grandmother and I am so greatful. I'm now looking for info on Antonio Cortez who is my grandfather.

Jose Refugio and Alejandra are Antonio Cortez parents. They are all from Ojuelos Jalisco

thanks

Rancho Arroyo de Soto, Calvillo, Ags. / Jalpa, Zac. Policarpio Serna b about 1850.

I have found this person but have no family to place him in. He is found in the Registro Civil, Defunciones. book no. 81. , page no. 24, entry no 49 , image no. 29 of 617 . The death of Norberto Cerna on March 9, 1868. Policarpio is listed as 18 yrs old as he gave his testimony about the death of Norberto.

He encontrado a esta persona pero no tengo ninguna familia para colocarlo adentro. Lo encuentran en el Registro civil, Defunciones. libro No. 81. , página No. 24, entrada no 49, imagen No. 29 de 617. La muerte de Norberto Cerna el 9 de marzo de 1868. Policarpio tiene 18 anos de edad. policarpio dio testigo.

Diego Romo de Vivar ???

Buscando en pares.mcu.es encontré un registro que tiene coincidencias de nombres y fechas, con relacion a Diego Romo de Vivar el que caso con Maria Rangel
¿Alguien ya ha podido ver este registro?

ÁREA DE IDENTIFICACIÓN
Código de Referencia: ES.28079.AHN/1.1.1.10.1.13//INQUISICIÓN,1222,EXP.12
Titulo Nombre atribuido:Informaciones genealógicas de Diego Pérez de Vivar y de Catalina Ponce de León, su mujer
Fecha Formación:1629 - 1633
Nivel de Descripción:Unidad Documental Compuesta

ÁREA DE CONTENIDO Y ESTRUCTURA
Alcance y Contenido:Informaciones genealógicas de Diego Pérez de Vivar, natural de México, pretendiente a familiar del Tribunal de la Inquisición de la citada ciudad, y de su mujer Catalina Ponce de León, natural de Huehuetlán (México)

ÁREA DE CONDICIONES DE ACCESO Y UTILIZACIÓN
Índices de Descripción:
Familiares de la Inquisición
Huehuetlán (México)
Informaciones genealógicas
México
México (Capital)
Pérez de Vivar Romo , Diego
Ponce de León, Catalina

ÁREA DE CONTROL DE LA DESCRIPCIÓN
Notas del Archivero:
Autor responsable: Alonso Roldán, María Dolores.
Fuentes de información: Alonso Roldán, María Dolores y Rodríguez-Chaves Mimbrero, Clara
Fecha de la Descripción:2004-01-15

SOPORTE Y VOLUMEN
6 Documento(s) en Soporte: Papel

(Por cierto en el AGN de Mexico hay un registro de un documento que parece ser el mismo)

Information about Simon Gonzales or Maria Gonzales from Zacatecas?

Hello Again (2nd post in a couple of days!)
I looked for information about Jose Maria Gonzalez (D.O.B around 1820s) and his wife Julia Casillas from around Jalpa/Huanusco, Zac. I've already looked at the baptism record to verify that they're the grandparents of Jose Maria Gonzalez (D.o.B 7/4/1864): (http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2F10…)

So i'm wondering if anyone has information about Maria and Simon (below) to see if Jose Maria and Julia are the same ones from above? Or is the spelling of Gonzales instead of Gonzalez not a mistake?

Groom's Name: Juan Alvares
Groom's Birth Date: 1843
Groom's Age: 26
Bride's Name: Maria Gonsales
Marriage Date: 18 Mar 1869
Marriage Place: Santa Maria Mecatabasco,Villa Del Refugio,Zacatecas,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Manuel Alvares
Groom's Mother's Name: Maria Jesus Gonsales
Bride's Father's Name: Jose Maria Gonsales
Bride's Mother's Name: Julia Casillas
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60121-6
Source Film Number: 1094876
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

Groom's Name: Simon Gonzales
Groom's Birth Date: 1830
Groom's Age: 35
Bride's Name: Valeriana Gonzales
Bride's Birth Date: 1840
Bride's Age: 25
Marriage Date: 08 Jun 1865
Marriage Place: Teul De Gonzalez Ortega,Zacatecas,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Jose Maria Gonzales
Groom's Mother's Name: Julia Casillas
Bride's Father's Name: Juan Gonzales
Bride's Mother's Name: Bonifacia Castro
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M61705-1
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 1164334
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

Gracias,Arturo

Need help!

Anyone have info on Andres Maria Lopez de Nava who married Maria Gertrudis Romo de vivar
ca. 1750 in Tabasco or Aguascalientes?

Alguien tiene info sobre Andres Lopez de Nava quien caso a Gertrudis Romo de Vivar
alreador de 1750 in Tabasco, Zac o Aguascalientes?

Daniel

Rancho "El Agostadero" in Canadas, Jalisco name: Refugio Villalobos mid 1800's

Hello I'm Mercedes G. Villalobos

Does anyone have any relatives that come from Canadas, Jalisco and knew of a Rancho in the mid to late 1800's called "El Agostadero"? REFUGIO VILLALOBOS and JOSEFA CAMPOS were the owners and my mother was their niece. She's 105 & tells me it was a big prosperous ranch. I'm trying to find out if any people that lived around there have told their stories. I Welcome any comments. Thanks.

Hay alguna persona que tenga parientes que vengan de Canadas, Jalisco de un rancho en la epoca de 1800's llamado "El Agostadero"? El rancho le pertenecia a REFUGIO VILLALOBOS y JOSEFA CAMPOS. Mi madre era la sobrina de Refugio Villalobos. Ella tiene 105 y me dice que era un rancho muy grande y bonito. Estoy tratando de averiguar si alguna persona que era vecina de ese rancho ha contado historias. Cualquier comentario seria agradecido. Gracias.

Introduction, Montalvo Cabral Research

Hello everyone, my name is Adrian and I've been a part of this group for over a month now, but just recently had part of my family tree uploaded so I would like to introduce myself to everyone.

The line I am reseraching here is that of my maternal grandfather, with the surname of Montalvo. Aside from the fact that this name is not common, it seems that upon doing a search of the forums for a mention of that name, only a few posts were found and those were of names mixed into the resources of other's.
Well, a history of my family, my great grandfather was Clemente Montalvo, he was from Villanueva, Zacatecas. Although originally I believed he was one of 5 children, I have found the baptism documents of 5 other siblings. His parents were Isabel Montalvo and Maria Huerta. That is where the geneological information on that side of my family ends. I have never been able to find any records of Isabel Montalvo, and the same with Maria Huerta, which as one would imagine is a fairly common name. I have been told one way or another she is related to Victoriano Huerta but I have yet to find her name on that family tree. As for Isabel, I am not sure if he is even from Zacatecas, as the story is told to me by my family is that he was a participant at the Battle of Puebla in 1862 and the subsequent siege the following year. Looking at the list of Mexican regiments which participated at the battle, most came from central Mexico. He could have been in the regular army, but for that information I still need where he was from.

As for the other half of my grandfather's family, thanks to a distant relative I have more information. Clemente Montalvo married Patricia Cabral sometime in the first decade of the 20th century. The Cabral's were from Jerez, Zacatecas. However, her mother was a Rojas and they were from Tepetongo.
Here is a link to the Cabral-Rojas family tree. It goes back about 3 generations started from my great-grandparents. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/18460

Perhaps I might find a distant relative or two here. Thanks.

New Member Intro

Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my work on my family in
Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any information on where and how to star by search in Mexico

Herrera - Escobedo

Hi, I'm researching Herrera Escobedo. These surnames come from an Hacienda Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas. Jaula de Arriba belongs to Partida los Pinos, Zacatecas about 30 miles south of Los Pinos going to San Luis Potosi. Specifically I'm mainly interested in my Grandparent and Grand-Grandparents.

My Grand Parent Severiano Herrera Escobedo born 21 de February 1889 but there may be possibilities of other years span to 1891 and died around 1950, Severiano had two siblings Juan and Emilia (CA 1901), Juan went to live to California, USA around 1915 and Emilia lived first in Sacramento Durango and then moved to Torreon Coahuila. Severiano parents were Jose Maria Herrera and Maria Dolores Escobedo. It is my guess that Jose Maria died around 1910 because Juan, Severiano and Emilia moved to Sacramento, Durango together with mother Maria Dolores Escobedo.
Severiano was first Married to Maria del Carmen Munoz, 25 November 1914 in Sacramento, Durango, Mexico, my father is son of Severiano and Maria del Carmen, Emilio Herrera Munoz born in 1916.
On the side of Maria del Carmen Munoz, I have a tree going to 1800 which I am enclosing.

1. To find more information about Jose Maria Herrera and Maria Dolores Escobedo, when they were born and where.
2. History of Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas.
3. Reasons on why they moved.
4. To find information of Baptism of Severiano Herrera Escobedo, I did two trips to Los Pinos and Jaula de Arriba and I was not able to find his baptism register.
5. Any other information about this family.

Hola, Estoy investigando la familia Herrera - Escobedo, Estos apellidos se originan en la Hacienda Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas. Jaula de Arriba pertenecio a la Partida de Los Pinos, Zacatecas cerca de 30 millas al sur de Pinos por la carretera a San Luis Potosi, Estoy Interesado en encontrar mas datos de mi Abuelo y de sus papas, mis bis-abuelos.

Mi Abuelo Severiano Herrera Escobedo nacio el 21 de Febrero, existe confusion en el anio las posibilidades son de 1889 hasta 1891 y murio alrededor 1950, vivio en Jaula de Arriba Zacatecas hasta cerca de los 18 anios, despues vivio en Sacramento, Durango a la muerte de su primera esposa (1918) se va a Estados Unidos con su hermano Juan y despues regresa a vivir en el Paso, Texas, despues regresa a Mexico en Francisco I Madero, Coahuila en donde muere. Severiano tuvo dos hermanos Juan y Emilia (ca 1901) , Juan se fue a vivir a California cerca de 1915 y Emilia vivio primero en Sacramento, Durango y despues en Torreon, Coahuila. Los Papas de Severiano fueron Jose Maria Herrera y Maria Dolores Escobedo, adivino que Jose Maria muere alrededor de 1910 porque Juan, Severiano y Emilia junto con su mama Dolores Escobedo se mueven a Sacramento, Durango.
Severiano primero se caso con Maria del Cramen Munoz, 25 de Noviembre 1914 en Sacramento, Durango, mi papa es hijo de Severiano y Maria del Carmen, su nombre Emilio Herrera Munoz nacido 1916.
Por el lado del Maria del Carmen Munoz tengo muy claro su arbol Generalogico el cual va hasta 1800 y el cual incluyo.

1. Pretendo encontrar mas informacion de Jose Maria Herrera y Maria Dolores Escobedo, donde y cuando nacieron.
2. Historia de Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas.
3. Razones del porque se movieron de Jaula de Arriba
4. Informacion del bautismo o nacimiento de Severiano Herrera Escobedo.
5. Cualquier otra informacion de esta familia.