Nuestros Ranchos Site

yo tengo Castaneda y Arteaga pero no de Atolinga. Castaneda de Moyahua y Mezquital del Oro y Arteaga de Villanueva.
Sandra Blankinship

Yo tengo los apellidos Castaneda, Perez, Avila, Saldana entre otros mas en mi arbol familiar. Todos estos ancestros Vivian en el Valle de Tlaltenango. En particular en los Ranchos que hoy dia pertenecen al municipio de Atolinga (Rancho Grande, Ojo de Agua, El Durazno, Cerrito Pelon)
Que es lo que buscas en particular?
Sylvia Castaneda

I have an Antonia Gomez married to Diego Estrada on 20 Oct 1692 in Tepatitlán de Morelos, Jalisco, México, Antonia's parent were Diego Gomez and Mensia Velasco de Espexo. Is this the same Diego and Mensia?

Joe Rubio

Jaime,

You are correct. Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Dominguez married in Sierra de Pinos 3 May 1632 and had ten children before 1650. At least seven of them were baptized at the old "Parroquia de la Asuncion de Aguascalientes", including their daughter Ana Dominguez, who went by her mother's name. This Ana married twice. First, she married Juan Hernandez (I haven't found their marriage record either) who died Feb 1688 in Aguascalientes. After her husband died, she married Francisco Fernandez de Palos Dec 1688 at Las Peñuelas. They had no children, as Ana was already 49 years old. The parents of the first Ana Dominguez (who married Pedro Alonso de los Inojos) were Miguel Diaz and Maria Medel. You're probably wondering: Where does the name Ana Dominguez come from...? Well, it's not that complicated. Maria Medel was the daughter of Pedro Medel and Ana Dominguez. The name of this first Ana Dominguez was used for several generations by her descendants, which is typical of that period.

Hope this helps.

Bill Figueroa

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ana Dominguez de Inojos

Juana Dominguez (Married to Juan Macias Valadez, 12 Jun 1683 in Aguascalientes) was daughter of Juan Hernandez and Ana Dominguez. Juana had at least 6 siblings. In the baptismal records of one of these, Ana is listed as Ana Domingues de los Inojos (Hinojos). I've not been able to locate Juan & Ana's marriage record, to find the names of Juana's grandparents, so I've hit a road block. However, I found a potential couple: Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Domingues (died 14 August 1675). Could these be Ana's parents and thus Juana's grandparents? Any help will be appreciated.

Jaime

Hi Jessica,

Will you please post the web address for the record? It makes it much easier for us to look at it.

Rosalinda

Hola Edgar, yo lo tengo,pero no entero, no se de donde lo saque,
probablemente de este foro, tiene comentarios en ingles de la persona que lo
puso :

Testamento de Bernardo Ruiz de Esparza
Sello Tercero, Un Real, Años de Mil Seiscientos y Noventa, y Noventa y Uno.
En Nombre de Dios Todo Poderoso y de su Vendita Madre la Siempre Virgen
Maria concebida en Gracia y Gloria desde el primer instante de su ser. Amen.
Notorio y manifiesto sea a los que este pressente testamento vieren, como
yo, Bernardo Ruys de Esparssa, hijo legitimo de Lope Ruys de Esparssa y de
Francisca Gabai su Lexitima Muxer, vezinos que fueron de esta Villa de Aguas
calientes de donde soy natural y actualmente vezino estando en mi entera
salud cabal, juissio, memoria y entendimiento....etc. etc.
On a different paragraph, he continues
Y ten declaro que fui casado y velado segun horden de Ntra. Sta. Madre
Yglesia Chatolica Romana, con Chatalina Lossano, Hija Lexitima de Juan
Lozano y de Ysabel de Friaz su Lexitima Muxer, vecinos que fueron del pueblo
de Theocaltiche, y que con la susodicha dote...etc. etc.
What I cannot understand is why the alias "Salado" that was given to
Bernardo and to several generations of his descendants. They were all Ruiz
de Esparza as shown in most documents, but every now and then the alias
"Salado" pops up in some document.

Espero que encuentres el original. Busca en el sitio de testamentos de
aguascalientes

Julietamartha

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Objet : [Nuestros Ranchos] BERNARDO RUIZ DE ESPARZA Y CATALINA LOZANO

BUENOS DIAS A TODOS

ALGUIEN TIENE EL ARCHIVO DEL TESTAMENTO DE BERNARDO RUIZ DE ESPARZA ESPOSO
DE CATALINA LOSANO?

ALGUIEN ME LO PODRIA PASAR O DECIR COMO BUSCARLO?

SE LOS AGRADECERIA MUCHO

EXCELENTE DIA

There are many people from the region that would like to know which Indian
tribes their ancestors came from but there really is no way to know for
sure. We know that the original Indians in the area were zacatecos,
cazcanes, tecuexes and guachichiles see
http://www.inafed.gob.mx/work/enciclopedia/EMM14jalisco/municipios/1403…

Encarnación cuenta con un gran legado rico en historia y evolución que ha
dejado su huella. Ya en los comienzos del actual milenio se encontraba el
territorio intensamente transitado por diversos pueblos chichimecas como
los tecuexes, guachichiles, zacatecos y caxcanes quienes de una vida social
de cazadores pasaron al nomadismo y luego a la forma aldeana. Dejaron
vestigios de su civilización en la zona arqueológica ubicada en la meseta
del Tule al suroeste del municipio.

There were tribes of Tlaxcaltecas and Otomíes that assisted the Spaniards
in the Chichimeca war and mixed and settled with the local Indians so you
could have a mix.

Here is another page that is about the Indians of Jalisco -
http://www.houstonculture.org/mexico/jalisco_indig.html

You might have some Aztec ancestry but if so it is probably a minority of
your Indian ancestry.

It's unfortunate that so many people from the region, even my own close
relatives, think that we have Aztec ancestry when we likely have very
little.

My grandmother had a lot of Indian ancestors from Encarnación de Díaz.

Regards,
Armando

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:17 AM, JOSE TORRES wrote:

> IN DOING RESEARCH IN THE JALISCO CHURCH RECORDS I FOUND A GREAT AUNT PETRA
> TORRES THAT MARRIED VALERIO MACIAS ON 2 JULY 1814 AND IT LIST BOTH AS BEING
> INDIOS. BUT HOW CAN I FIND THE TYPE OF INDIOS THEY WERE. I FOUND THIS IN
> THE JALISCO CATHOLIC CHURCH RECORDS FROM ENCARNACION DE DIAZ MATRIMONIOS
> 1778 - 1830 FILM PAGE WAS 503.I HAD HEARD THAT MY RELATIVES WERE AZTEC BUT
> I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THIS YET.. THIS MY FIRST TIME POSTING ANYTHING SO I
> DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PROPER FORMAT, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. MY
> ID IS HERJOE59

That's interesting to know about the Sanchez and the Banuelos. I'm stuck right now, because I haven't found my ggg grandfather's baptismal record, nor his parents' marriage information (not sure where they wed). My ggg grandfather was Jose de la Luz Sanchez Banuelos. His parents were Andres Sanchez and Maria Feliciana (Petronila) Banuelos. I'm not sure if Jose de la Luz was the first born (married 7 May 1818 in Guachinango, Jalisco at age: 36, putting him around 1782, but not sure if he was born in Ameca, Jalisco) or if his sister Maria de San Juan Sanchez Banuelos (born in Villa de Xerez around 1783 according to her marriage certificate of 28 Mar 1808 in Ameca, Jalisco. All of their other sibling were born in Ameca, Jalisco, and I've found all of their baptismal records.

marriage for Jose de la Luz Sanches
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18568-36893-99?cc=1874591&wc…

marriage for Maria de San Juan Sanchez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-71330-5?cc=1874591&wc=…

Maria de San Juan married Jose de la Luz's wife's father.

I'm just wondering if you came across any of these names.

Sandra Marquez

Sanchez-Castellanos

Katy if you can contact me by Facebook we can share information. I am the cousin of Rigoberto from Monte Escobedo

thank you for sharing this information since I have Matias and Estefana in my files too
Linda in Olympia, Wa

On Friday, June 13, 2014 4:51 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

Quisera dar gracias a mi Primo Juan Sanchez por sus investigaciones de
nuestra Familia de Sanchez. Por mucho tiempo he pensado que mi Estefana
Sanchez (marida de Matias Banuelos) fue hermana de Antonia Sanchez (marida
de Antonio Banuelos). Pense que dos hermanos se casaron con dos hermanas.
Pero quien es Marizal Banuelos y quien es Rosalia Sanchez:

Tres hermanos Matias, Antonio y Marizal Banuelos casaron tres hermanas
Estefana, Antonia, y Rosalia Sanchez en Monte Escobedo – mire los
Información matrimonial de Monte Escobedo:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15559-51?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-16029-34?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15214-15514-26?cc=1804458

&wc=MC76-Z2Q:147338301,147338302,149982301

Los Banuelos hijos de Xacinto Banuelos y Bartola de la Torre

Los Sanchez hijas de Trinidad Sanchez-Castellanos y Gertrudis Jaimes

Gracias Primo,

Joseph

Pd: Juan Sanchez me contacto por que mi nombre era una conexión de
FamilyTreeDNA family finder.

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

Sanchez-Castellanos

I want to invite everybody to use de DNA to share information, I think this tool is very useful with people like us that have documented the family tree of our families. The amount of Spaniard were so limited that I am sure that at least an important % of us share a comoun DNA. In a few words we are cousins.

Joseph and I have been tested by familytree DNA and many of us too. We just have to use the tools we have.

i could give you more info on the parents since i'm a decendant of antonia sanchez and antonio banuelos

This is an interesting study. The supplements document can be downloaded
without registering. It's at
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2014/06/11/344.6189.1280.DC1/Mo…

Figure S10 shows that the Purépecha and Nahua Jalisco are similar to each
other even though they speak languages from different language families,
Tarascan vs UtoAztecan (see table S1). The Huichol are very different from
Purépecha and Nahua Jalisco even though the Huichol occupy parts of
northwestern Jalisco and Nayarit and the Huichol speak a dialect of
UtoAztecan as do the Nahua Jalisco. Table S1 shows the linguistic families
of each group as well as the region each one inhabits. This goes to show
that DNA and language can be independent of each other because you can have
two different language groups with similar autosomal DNA and you can have
two different autosomal DNA groups that speak the same language.

Two of the authors are from Instituto de Investigación en Genética
Molecular, Universidad de Guadalajara, Ocotlán, Mexico.

Armando

Mia,

There were in fact members of the García de León who mixed with other caste and did produce mulatos. They continued using their last names, I have also found a couple ilegitimate lines in Aguascalientes, Celaya and Teocaltiche.

Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

Hi Mia,

Technically, it would not be possible to be an Indio if the father was an español, and fairly unlikely to be a mulato, unless the mother was actually black, but, in reality the colonial caste system was mostly based on appearance and features and not on a thorough investigation into their racial or ethnic background. I'm guessing that your question is related to Toribio García de León. You are correct that he is español, but, if you look at George Fulton's Aguascalientes Matrimonial Information here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014 

you'll see that Toribio Garcia de Leon married a Mulata named Juana Hernandes, so, although their children should be more accurately classified as Moriscos, any number of other caste labels are possible based on their appearance.  

Here is the actual IM for Toribio García de León and Juana Hernandes : https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-65970-66?cc=1502404&…
 
Toribio García de León was baptized on 1 May 1669 in Aguascalientes: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12047-90519-12?cc=1502404&…

As it says on his baptism and Información Matrimonial, he is the son of Juan García de León and Juana de Ulloa. The last will and testament of Bartolomé García de León confirms that he and his first wife Antonia de Cáceres are the parents of Juan García de León.

Bartolomé García de León married Antonia de Cáceres in Aguascalientes on 24 Feb 1636:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-51976-86?cc=1502404&…
 
Antonia de Caceres died around 21 Jun 1646 from childbirth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145304-59?cc=1502404…
 
Bartolomé García de León died 27 Mar 1679 in Aguascalientes: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-147019-59?cc=1502404…
 
That's all the information I know.

Good luck in your search,

Christopher de Cuellar

Hello Mia :

Indian with a spanish father doesn't exist, he could be mestizo from Spanish
and Indian or mulato from Spanish and Black . So a member of the Spanish
family Garcia de Leon that marry with an Indian or a black woman .

But sometimes Black slaves and Indians servants , like they did'nt have last
names use to take those of the master, so I think you should continue to
look until you find where is the conection with that family in Celaya.

Good luck

Julieta

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Objet : [Nuestros Ranchos] Toribio Garcia

>
>
>
Hello members,

I saw in the older posts on Nuestros Ranchos a few posts about the Garcia de
Leon family from Celaya Guanajuato and wanted to ask a question. One of my
direct ancestors has parents named Toribio Garcia and Juana Hernandes but my
ancestor is sometime listed as mulato and sometime Indian and I saw that the
Garcia de Leon family are Spanish. Is it possible that my ancestor is mulato
or Indian with a Spanish father?

Mia

Hello Katy, It says they are "Having technical difficulties." https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1874591

Last week they had a big crash and even Family Tree Maker wasn't working. I thought it was my computer; I even took it in for service but they couldn't fix it. I saved my tree on another computer and erased the program from my computer then reloaded. Still didn't work. Finally I called their line and there was a recording. Thought me to check before assuming the problem is on my end. Maybe they will upload more files while they are fixing the problem. Deedra Corona

. I read your post with excitement because Roque Gomez and Thomasina Ramirez are very prominent in my tree. This couple did have a son named Nicolas, but he was born in Tecolotlan, 8 April, 1742. I believe the problem is that there are several persons with the name Nicolas Gomez. I hope you agree that we should help each other keep these confusing families straight.
Lic. Nicolas Thadeo Gomez y Aguilar was married 3 times:
To Estefania Fernandez de Monrroy, as you mentioned, on 21 August, 1757:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18377-26959-56?cc=1874591&wc…

This document does mentioned the deceased wife; Manuela Flores, whom he married in Guadalajara on 23 April, 1749.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-16944-31?cc=1874591&wc…

This document also mentions a deceased wife: Juana Maria Villasenor whom he married in Cocula 31 January, 1738

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-24922-24?cc=1874591&wc…

The dispensa for his niece, Rita Gomez Garcia and Pedro Araiza Medina in 1760 in Zapotlan was helpful to me in determining that the parents of Nicolas Thadeo were Joseph Gomez Garcia and Maria Candelaria Aguilar y Solario and mentions that her father was his brother and he raised Rita in his home.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-5451-14?cc=1874591&wc=…
Deedra Corona

Muy en Especial a el joven mendezdetorres aquí tienen los datos del matrimonio de Maria Ysabel Gomez De Aguilar y Covarrubias y Francisco De San Roman Maria Ysabel fue media Hermana de mi 5o Abuelo Nicolas Crisanto Gomez de Aguilar y Quijas y en efecto todos los Gomez de Aguilar son del mismo tronco Familiar de los Gomez Garcia el patrirca de los Gomez de Aguilar fue José Gomez Garcia de Velasco y Zuñiga y su Esposa Maria Candelaria de Aguilar y Solorzano

Francisco De San Roman Nombre del cónyuge: Maria Ysabel Gomez De Aguilar, Fecha del evento: 27 Mar 1787
Lugar del evento: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Nombre del padre: Antonio San Roman Y Fernandez
Nombre de la madre: Rita Barva Y Sermeno
Nombre del padre del cónyuge: Francisco Gomez De Aguilar
Nombre de la madre del cónyuge: Juana Maria Cobarrubias me imagino que Antonio San Roman Y Fernandez es de la Familia Fernandez Monroy Gracias jhasta pronto Atte Ignacio Anaya Gomez

ana de la trinidad garcia's parents are juan garcia and isabel gutierrez

just a small correction. her name was Ana de la Trinidad Garcia and only one record among many lists her as Benedicta. Her husbands name is actually Jose Antonio del Carmel/Carmen Caldera. They are my ancestors too. I find most of their family in El Durazno, Jerez Zac but find them with the Caldera family in La Boca de San Pedro, as padrinos and witness's but have not been able to prove they are related.
I also have this marriage record for Jose (Dionicio) Ceballos and Agustina Medrano
.
marriage 7 Feb 1781 in Jerez, Zac
Jose Seballos Espanol
parents: Agustin Seballos and Rita Bermudes
with Agustina Medrano Espanola
natural child of Monica Medrano
godparents: Jose Caldera and Paula Gertrudis
source: 0440060 Jerez marriage
page 260 Family search online program

On Thursday, June 5, 2014 5:57 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

Here is a bit more information from Aaron the PBS Researcher:

Hi Joseph,

José de la Lus Ramírez's wife's name was Apolinaria Ceballos. Her father was
Dionicio Ceballos and his wife was Agustina Medrano.
Jose's father's name is Pedro José Ramirez and his wife's name is Gertrudis
Felix, but we have no locations on them.

In terms of Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera, his wife's name was Feliciana
Ceballos. Joseph's fathers name was Josef Antonio Caldera, and
his wife was
named Anna Benedicta García but once again we have no locations.

Our genealogists have done a lot of work on this and have had trouble, as
most of the church archives are unindexed. Are any of your members located
in Zacatecas?

We need the information basically as soon as possible, we're shooting in two
weeks and would love to have the information within a week!
Thanks for your help, I realize this is quite short notice, so I appreciate
anything you can do!
Best,
Aaron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On
> Behalf Of Alicia Carrillo
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:27 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] PBS Researcher Needs Help
>
> FYI,
>
> Maria Cortez of Nuestros Ranchos and Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society
> is currently doing research for PBS, Finding your roots, the Henry
> Louis Gates production. That would make 2 people from Nuestros Ranchos.
>
> Alicia
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Joseph Puentes
wrote:
>
> > If anyone in the group would like to work on this project it would be
> > great if you would bring some attention to the
> > http://nuestrosranchos.org/group if the findings get presented on
> PBS.
> >
> > Here is some information I received directly from Aaron with some
> info
> > posted on the Zacatecas rootsweb group included at the bottom:
> >
> > As stated before, I am a researcher for a PBS show called Finding
> Your
> > Roots, that explores race, culture, and identity through the
> > genealogies and family histories of notable celebrities.
> >  I am trying to trace the line of Jose de La Lus Ramirez, born March
> > 1781 in Jerez, Zacatecas, and the line of Joseph Antonio Luciano
> > Caldera, born December 14, 1755 in El Durazno, Zacatecas, and died
> Jun
> > 19, 1799 in El Durazno, Zacatecas.
> > We're trying to see if we can take these two people's families back
> to
> > Spain, which would probably be about two or three generations. We've
> > already checked the obvious places for records but have turned
> nothing
> > up, so if there is anyone with any leads or who would be interested
> in
> > helping out, we would be enormously
appreciative.
> > I did some searching on your site and found Miguel Caldera, who has
> > obvious ties to Spain (through his father) and while it is entirely
> > unknown whether Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera is related to him, it
> could be a lead?
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> > =========================
> >
> > Joseph Puentes
> > Clean@h2opodcast.com
> > http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 
  1. PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas Genealogist
> >      (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:40:22 -0000
> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com"
> > Subject: [MEX-ZACATECAS] PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas
> >       
Genealogist
> > To:
> >
> > Author: akalischerco
> > Surnames: de la Lus Ramirez, Caldera
> > Classification: lookup
> >
> > Message Board URL:
> >
> >
> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.mexico.zacatecas/2051/mb
> > .ashx
> >
> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > I'm working on a PBS show and am trying to take the lines of Jose de
> > La Lus Ramirez
of Jerez, Zacatecas, and Joseph Antonio Luciano
> Caldera
> > of El Durazno, Zacatecas, back to Spain (probably about two
> > generations). Is there anyone who could attempt to do this? The
> answer
> > may lie in civil or church records, but I have been unable to find
> any
> > that help.
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >
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FYI,

Maria Cortez of Nuestros Ranchos and Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society is
currently doing research for PBS, Finding your roots, the Henry Louis Gates
production. That would make 2 people from Nuestros Ranchos.

Alicia

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> If anyone in the group would like to work on this project it would be great
> if you would bring some attention to the http://nuestrosranchos.org group
> if
> the findings get presented on PBS.
>
> Here is some information I received directly from Aaron with some info
> posted on the Zacatecas rootsweb group included at the bottom:
>
> As stated before, I am a researcher for a PBS show called Finding Your
> Roots, that explores race, culture, and identity through the genealogies
> and
> family histories of notable celebrities.
> I am trying to trace the line of Jose de La Lus Ramirez, born March 1781
> in
> Jerez, Zacatecas, and the line of Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera, born
> December 14, 1755 in El Durazno, Zacatecas, and died Jun 19, 1799 in El
> Durazno, Zacatecas.
> We're trying to see if we can take these two people's families back to
> Spain, which would probably be about two or three generations. We've
> already
> checked the obvious places for records but have turned nothing up, so if
> there is anyone with any leads or who would be interested in helping out,
> we
> would be enormously appreciative.
> I did some searching on your site and found Miguel Caldera, who has obvious
> ties to Spain (through his father) and while it is entirely unknown whether
> Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera is related to him, it could be a lead?
>
> Joseph
>
> =========================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> Clean@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas Genealogist
> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:40:22 -0000
> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com"
> Subject: [MEX-ZACATECAS] PBS Researcher looking for Zacatecas
> Genealogist
> To:
>
> Author: akalischerco
> Surnames: de la Lus Ramirez, Caldera
> Classification: lookup
>
> Message Board URL:
>
> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.mexico.zacatecas/2051/mb…
>
> Message Board Post:
>
> I'm working on a PBS show and am trying to take the lines of Jose de La Lus
> Ramirez of Jerez, Zacatecas, and Joseph Antonio Luciano Caldera of El
> Durazno, Zacatecas, back to Spain (probably about two generations). Is
> there
> anyone who could attempt to do this? The answer may lie in civil or church
> records, but I have been unable to find any that help.
> Aaron
>
>
>

Joseph este es el link de mi Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/digifoto.jardinesdelvalle?ref=tn_tnmn

2014-06-25 16:28 GMT-05:00 Joseph Puentes :

> The NGGS will be having another great conference. Please click on this link
> http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/NGGSFlyer.jpeg for all the details. Save
> the
> date and come prepared to learn.
>
>
>
> For more information contact Alicia Carrillo or Martin Perez (email
> addresses in the linked material)
>

Laurie Machen
Thank you

Edgar Olguin Diaz
BUENOS DIAS
A TODOS LOS PRESENTES

ALGUIEN ME PODRIA AYUDAR
QUIEN TIENE INFORMACION DE LOS PADRES DE NICOLAS LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE Y LOS DE REGINA DE ALVARADO?

EXISTE ALGUN TESTAMENTO ?
ALGUNA DISPENSA O DOTE MATRIMONIAL DONDE SE MENCIONA LOS LINAJES DE ESTA PAREJA?

AGRADEZCO LA ATENCION PRESTADA
QUE TENGAN UN EXCELENTE DIA
SALUDOS

Edgar Olguin Diaz
BUENOS DIAS
A TODOS LOS PRESENTES

ALGUIEN ME PODRIA AYUDAR
QUIEN TIENE INFORMACION DE LOS PADRES DE NICOLAS LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE Y LOS DE REGINA DE ALVARADO?

EXISTE ALGUN TESTAMENTO ?
ALGUNA DISPENSA O DOTE MATRIMONIAL DONDE SE MENCIONA LOS LINAJES DE ESTA PAREJA?

AGRADEZCO LA ATENCION PRESTADA
QUE TENGAN UN EXCELENTE DIA
SALUDOS

Edgar Olguin Diaz
BUENOS DIAS
A TODOS LOS PRESENTES

ALGUIEN ME PODRIA AYUDAR
QUIEN TIENE INFORMACION DE LOS PADRES DE NICOLAS LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE Y LOS DE REGINA DE ALVARADO?

EXISTE ALGUN TESTAMENTO ?
ALGUNA DISPENSA O DOTE MATRIMONIAL DONDE SE MENCIONA LOS LINAJES DE ESTA PAREJA?

AGRADEZCO LA ATENCION PRESTADA
QUE TENGAN UN EXCELENTE DIA
SALUDOS

I'V DONE RESEARCH PER NICOLAS LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE AND REGINA ALBARADO.
4 CHILDREN
NICOLAS PARENTS JUAN LOPEZ DE ELIZALDE Y LEONOR BECERRA.
I'M A NEW MEMBER OF THIS GROUP BUT IF I CAN HELP LET ME KNOW.
MARY E

Mary Gervassi

Have you tried searching in the LDS? I did a search and came up with 4 children and one married. This is in the year of the 1600"s in Aguascalientes. Is this where your family is from?

Mary